Helmet Reflection Apollo 12

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

A little something new to look at.
Try it fullscreen.
Enjoy



edited by Sgt.Rocknroll


Rock

[Amaterasu]

Nice!  That reflection IS quite odd, isn't it?

[ArMaP]

Nice!  That reflection IS quite odd, isn't it?

It's odd, but is it really a reflection?

[The Seeker]

ok armap if it isn't a reflection, what do you  think it could be? I see what appears to be legs or supports underneath it when sarge zooms in on it...


seeker

[A51Watcher]

Nice work Sarge!

Definately got me scratchin my head on this one! 

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

I have no idea. Just draw what I see.

[Flux]

Part of a crane gantry? Column/beam/diagonal brace of an interior set?

Straight lines on the curved face of the helmet would appear curved which shows what you have drawn.

Another thread for photo reference: http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=455.0

[ArMaP]

ok armap if it isn't a reflection, what do you  think it could be?

Part of what's on the other side of the visor.

We shouldn't forget that we are looking at something that, besides being reflective, was made to let light enter the helmet, so if light enters the helmet it's possible that we are seeing what's inside the helmet.

[Elvis Hendrix]

Excellent Sarge.
The lies in the visors.


Elvis.

[starwarp2000]

Armap, what can you see inside the helmet that could possibly create those internal reflections? Just curious.

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

a tatoo on Conrad's head? ala Gorbachev?....

[rdunk]

Looks pretty strange to me............How about the possibility of a reflection from any reflective piece on the near-side (to him) of what he is holding in his hand?? 

I do have a question this photo, and visor reflection - - is a "line of horizon" on the moon always as close as depicted in this pic. It is a bright sun shiny day, and the view seems to show the horizon not very far behind him, and the relection of the frontal horizon on his visor appears to be only a few steps away, into the darkness. I would have thought that the moon is big enough that when standing on a flat surface area, one could see for several miles (klicks) in any direction?? Seems a little "staged" to me!

Well, I did a little looking, and found a "horizon distance chart" for the moon, with relevance to hight of observation. I can't post a screenshot of the chart, but I can post a link to it. It does show that at a height of 2 metres the horizon distance is 2.6 kilometres, which would be about 1.8 miles, in any direction. Doesn't look that far to me, in the photo!!!!!

http://www.islandone.org/MMSG/aasm/AASM5B.html

[Somamech]

As always Sarge thats a very intersting find there mate!

I did a quick search and found some testing pics in regards to the visor on the Great Lord of NASA website:

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/alsj-LEVA.html

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

Great stuff guys!..All I can say is, to me it's something in front of him, probably at 30 deg. (from eyesight) height (guessing from Conrad's height of 5'6")

but hell, who knows..I thought it was interesting and thats what I drew...

[Somamech]

Its a freaking great find Sarge!

On Nasa's site they show the gold reflecting "all incoming light" which makes it all the more interesting :O

As an Aside notice the Symbol on this Helmet from the link I posted in my previous post!

Zorgon will LOVE this One

Jim Lovell's flown LEVA, photographed at the Adler Planetarium by Arthur de Wolf. The new version included a central eyeshade with a raisable flap. It also included what is known as the 'CDR stripe' introduced at the request of NASA Public Affairs to distinguish between the two LM crewmembers in photographs. On later missions, the stripe was solid red. Lovell obtained NASA permission to incorporate a US Navy anchor on his CDR stripe. (Click on the image for a larger version.)