Railway Sleeper on Mars: Does anyone have any information on this image?

[Pimander]

I can't remember what the outcome of investigations into this were.  Does anyone have any information on this image?

It might even be on Earth - I don't know what the original source is.


SOURCE: http://www.planet-flipside.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=5776


SOURCE: http://www.planet-flipside.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=5776

[starwarp2000]

All i remember about that picture, Pim, was that somebody was claiming that it was Petrified Wood!
Supposedly as proof that Mars had trees at one time.

And, you are right, it could be a picture taken on Earth 

[Pimander]

Petrified wood?  It looks like wood that's for sure.  In fact, like a railway sleeper!  If that shot is on Mars then this is a very interesting image but I'm doubting it for some reason.

I have vague memories of it but....

[starwarp2000]

Here is a Wide angle view of that same area:



Notice that the whole area is littered with similar 'chunks of wood'. Also notice that the walls of the impact crater are of similar constitution.

What is being called 'wood' in this case may be nothing more than parts of the crater ejected by an impact event.

[zerocd]

Perfect object to apply the RAT to IMO.

Guess we have to wait for the colony ship to arrive.

0CD

[starwarp2000]

The previous poster referenced RAT.

This is one of the Scientific Instruments on Mars Spirit Rover: Rock Abrasion Tool (RAT) – exposes fresh material for examination by instruments on-board.

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=553.0

[rdunk]

All i remember about that picture, Pim, was that somebody was claiming that it was Petrified Wood!
Supposedly as proof that Mars had trees at one time.

And, you are right, it could be a picture taken on Earth 

Anything is possible I guess, but in this case, we can see the Rover in the pic, sitting a short distance from what looks like an impact crater - and there in the pic is this piece of wood/petrified wood.  I would make a guess that the circumstantial evidence indicates that this pic is a direct Rover/Mars pic.

[zorgon]

Petrified wood?  It looks like wood that's for sure.  In fact, like a railway sleeper!  If that shot is on Mars then this is a very interesting image but I'm doubting it for some reason.

I have vague memories of it but....

The Wooden Beam
Opportunity Sol 115
Navigation Camera

Naturally it is possible that NASA is correct in calling this one a "rock", but then NASA calls all anomalies rocks. In either case this object is in a field of sedimentary rock that shows the "Blue Berries" and it looks out of place whether it is a beam of wood or a rock.

It is certainly interesting to look at... The 'wooden beam' taken from the above panorama was taken on Sol 115 by Opportunity's Navication Camera. The beam appears in four images in the set... We have added them below



Sequence of 4









http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/opportunity_n115.html

The Shiny Thing on the hill..

The artifact in this image set has not been commented on by NASA.






The "Star" Uncovered in the Track
Sequence of 3

Anyone lose their necklace?




There is more in that set   continued...

[zorgon]

Square Depressions

Posted by 2Faced on 17-7-2008 @ 07:06 AM, A member of ATS Post ID 4643785

I was about to take a look at the log, until I noticed something else that I thought was a bit strange. When you look a bit above the "log" you see two, what apear to be, allmost perfect squares laying side by side. Or am I "seeing" things?

Here are the images I am talking about:

The Wood Pile
Opportunity Sol 783
Panorama Camera

Now this one just doesn't look like it belongs in the picture. The 'Wood Pile" shows up in two images
Opportunity, Sol 783



The Wood Pile
Opportunity Sol 783
Sequence of 2





The Wood Pile
Opportunity Sol 783
Sequence of 2


http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/p/783/1P197694479EFF68DBP2384L7M1.HTML


http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/p/783/1P197694614EFF68DBP2384L7M1.HTML

[Pimander]

Thanks Zorgon.  I was going to add some of the other shots of the area but you saved me the trouble and I was only going to steal it from material you collected anyway.

The "camp-fire" on the hill is intriguing if it isn't a photographic glitch.  I don't know what to make of the squares but I can't remember anything similar on Earth from my Geology course but it was 20 years ago.

[zorgon]

I don't know what to make of the squares but I can't remember anything similar on Earth from my Geology course but it was 20 years ago.

Steal away   There is a lot in there I forgot I had till someone brings it up again. We also have Mike Singh's collection from ATS. pretty sure I have most of the important stuff and the rest linked to the old threads. Might be worth a look to see if I missed any

Mike Singh's Collection

Regarding the squares  those were actually the most interesting to me because the rock in that area is sedimentary and is what contains the Blueberries (dubbed by a NASA scientist because he was eating a muffin at the time and said they looked like blueberries  )  true story I kid you not

So the 'timbers' even if they are rock, do not fit in that area, and I can think of nothing from my geology experience that accounts naturally for those two perfectly symmetrical squares that look like foundations.

[sky otter]

 
uhhmmmmmmmm guys..i apologize ahead of time for not being up to all the threads you have all done..and as i try to read thur all the stuff here..i willingly admit to no previous interest
and only current curiosity
but having said that i also want to say i am not trying to poke holes in anything
but this is what crossed my  mind as i looked at these shots


where did they test the rover?..and wouldn't they have had objects (earth objects) to manuver it over - around ..
and wouldn't they also be testing the camera equipment
and wouldn't they just luv playing with you guys by putting them in with the real stuff
and has that or can that be ruled out

perhaps it's a novice question and has been answered 

oh yeah..can i assume (yeah yeah i know)
that sleeper is a brit term for what we call a rr tie?
cause sleeper is what we reference as rr sleeping cars
previous made by pulman standard?

am i way too pedestrian to even be reading this stuff....sigh

[starwarp2000]

oh yeah..can i assume (yeah yeah i know)
that sleeper is a brit term for what we call a rr tie?
cause sleeper is what we reference as rr sleeping cars
previous made by pulman standard?

I will let Zorgs or Pimander reply to the other facets of your question.

Yes! in the UK and Former Commonwealth (Australia, NZ, etc.) we call those railway sleepers! The wooden slabs that the rails sit on. Although I can relay that here they have replaced them all with concrete ones now!

[zorgon]

i also want to say i am not trying to poke holes in anything

where did they test the rover?..and wouldn't they have had objects (earth objects) to maneuver it over - around ..

Well we found one of those Pathfinders out behind John's house...



And Carl Sagan found one of the Viking landers out in Death Valley  (and look at that fake hill in the background Hmmmmm)



And we caught Surveyor sitting on a beach in California... though it does sorta look Marsish





Hope that helps 

and wouldn't they also be testing the camera equipment
and wouldn't they just luv playing with you guys by putting them in with the real stuff
and has that or can that be ruled out

NASA? Nah they wouldn't play tricks on us 

[sky otter]

 

ah thank you for the answers..and not thinking i was anything but really truly curious..
but i thought of another one..sigh

if the rover is really on mars taking pics..what is taking the pics of the rover?


you know like those shows where the guy is supposed to be all alone somewhere
but there is footage of him constantly?

being new at looking at this stuff i am sure you can understand my questions

thanks