The Extraterrestrial Hypothesis: Pure misdirection?

[Sinny]

Ok, here we go with a Grand Explanation Attempt, drawn out from a simple starting point:  We're not telepathic and They Are.

If Aliens are telepathic, then their unity of purpose follows easily.  It would be difficult to see how it could be otherwise. Likewise, our lack of telepathy or shared consciousness results in hate, division, war - and the persistence of poverty as well as lack of solutions in the energy field.

This could also create a degree of 'arms length' detachment by Aliens - think of a homeless person who looks awful and smells worse.  You avoid him also because he may be crazy or violent.  If Aliens can read our thoughts, they may be repelled similarly.  Yet, they may feel some pity, even as we would in such a situation.

As 'Sleeper' claimed,  it's OK for them to inject thoughts in humans.  I read one channeler assert that Pleiadians inspired the Internet to get humans moving down the shared consciousness road.  It seems to be working - especially looking at the recent 'we're going to war' failure. Perhaps they'll try to splice it into our genes somehow as well.

I've had telepathic moments - I'm sure we all have 
Certain Alien communications have openly stated this also
From my experience and beliefs, some sympathise with us, others are here as a cosmic duty (baby sitting), and others have no emotions like we do
Working like a treat 

[Pimander]

I also think there are better questions here - why are they here?  Why don't they intervene openly? What is the basis of their apparent unity, given that they don't openly expose themselves?  It's OK to hypothesize about a Prime Directive but how does that get enforced presently, especially if it wasn't enforced in the ancient past?

If they are from here there is no need to ask those questions.  There is very good evidence they have intervened where nuclear weapons are concerned for a start.  Any "prime directive" certainly does not apply to these guys therefore if there is such a directive they are natives and the rule does not apply to them.

Surely the logic behind my argument is impeccable?

Again, do we really need to pretend we have any reason to assume they are not from here?

Yes the UFO occupants might be extraterrestrial but there is practically no evidence they are.  If you are being scientific the evidence comes first.  I know there is no harm speculating but ultimately UFOlogy has probably been led on a merry dance.

Of course the various aliens/UFO theories are not mutually exclusive.  But I'm trying to initiate a debate about the merits or otherwise of the ET hypothesis here.

What is the evidence to back up the ET hypothesis?  Does it all actually originate from a disinformation program?  I say quite likely.  An in depth study of the cover up backs up my developing theory.

The evidence for the ET hypothesis is certainly not intelligent bipeds that can communicate with humans and need no breathing apparatus on Earth.  Surely that is obvious?  It stands to reason that if they can do that they are likely from far closer to home.

Smell the coffee members.

[Sinny]

I'd suggest the evidence for ET lies in the monolith on Phobo's (hope it's the right moon, and the correct spelling! Lol), and ruins on our moon and even Mars, I further suggest the NASA footage of UFO's which are quite plainly ET.

That's ignoring all other speculation.

[Pimander]

I'd suggest the evidence for ET lies in the monolith on Phobo's (hope it's the right moon, and the correct spelling! Lol), and ruins on our moon and even Mars, I further suggest the NASA footage of UFO's which are quite plainly ET.

NASA footage of CRAFT - if there is any - is taken in the immediate Environment of Earth.  Our space ships are present in the immediate environment of Earth too.  Where are ours from?  Earth of course.  (Also many are plasma critters and not space ships).

If there really is a monolith on Mars (not Hoaxland material is it?) then it may or may not originate from an advanced Earth species OR ET.

I think you are missing my point a little bit here.  What I am trying to say is that, although there is likely such a thing as ET, there is ABSOLUTELY NO STRONG EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that the commonly sighted UFOs (saucers and triangles which are remarkably well adapted to terrestrial conditions) and the commonly sighted humanoids (that surprisingly appear to require no breathing apparatus) ARE ANYTHING OTHER THAN TERRESTRIAL.

Yes, there is likely ET but that is a side issue to what I am saying.

No strong evidence at all that the commonly studied sightings are not terrestrial.  In fact, I think the so called cover up is hiding the fact that it is not ET.  IT IS DISINFORMATION THAT THE COMMON ONES ARE ET.  The debate is deliberately kept about ET or hoax/misinterpretation when neither is the case about the important sightings.  Especially the ones related to nuclear weapons.

The nukes are of interest to the "aliens" because this is their home too.  The "Prime Directive" if it exists would not apply to a crypto-terrestrial race.  Geddit?

If you look at the cover up deeply, you will see that this explanation covers a lot of unexplained things.

ETA:  The Hoaxland material about Mars has disinformation written all over it.  Most of the material indicating ET origins does.

[petrus4]

For me, the question is not so much whether or not ETs exist.  I've done ceremonial evocation at least a couple of times, as well as had a few other odd experiences that I've mentioned to people; so I definitely know that acorporeal beings exist, whether or not physical ETs do.

The real question, is whether or not ETs are relevant to you personally; and the truth is that most of the time, they aren't.  We live in an extremely large, and truthfully very lively and highly populated universe, (even though it doesn't look like that from a beta brain wave state, most of the time) and so there are all sorts of beings coming and going, and doing whatever it is that they normally do.

The problem is that we humans are chronically egocentric, and we assume that every single time we see a saucer, or some flash of light or something weird out of the corner of our eyes, that we're being given a deliberate message; when most of the time, we aren't. 

A friend of mine and I used to conduct seances in a house I lived in previously, as a teenager.  At the time, the house was newly built, so it was completely clean, supernaturally speaking.  Over time, however, because we performed seances regularly, we opened a vortex in my bedroom, to the point where I would often be sitting at my computer, after we'd finished, and I would feel people randomly walking past me. 

They weren't there because they had come to see me; they were there because over time, we'd caused the veil in the immediate area to become a little thinner than in most places, so that even when spirits were innocently going about their business, they would still register with me.

The point is, if you don't see UFOs, or if you do see one, don't freak out about it, because either way, it's actually very innocuous and normal.  You don't go crazy when you see someone driving down the road in front of your house, so you shouldn't necessarily make a big deal about it if the Sirians or the Greys or whoever else happens to fly over said house, as well. 

They may not be interested in you at all; they might be going somewhere else entirely, and you just happened to catch them going past.  Experience joy, if you like, over the fact that you've seen that you live in a larger universe than you thought, but apart from that, don't worry about it.

[The Seeker]

All good points Pimander; may I also suggest that there is the possibility that survivors from the previous cycles of inhabitants here on our rock were very advanced at the times of the various cataclysms and have been here all along.

I believe it was Buzz Aldrin that disclosed the monolith on phobos, if I recall correctly.


seeker

[A51Watcher]

All good points Pimander; may I also suggest that there is the possibility that survivors from the previous cycles of inhabitants here on our rock were very advanced at the times of the various cataclysms and have been here all along.

...And they might not appreciate other races showing up and poaching their resources and cattle.

[Pimander]

...And they might not appreciate other races showing up and poaching their resources and cattle.

I'm assuming you have all read my aliens are Dinosaurs thread right?

Are 'Aliens' Dinosaurs & Survivers of an Earthly Cataclysm Returning Home?

I didn't realise I never moved a copy to PRC Forum.

[undo11]

I'm assuming you have all read my aliens are Dinosaurs thread right?

Are 'Aliens' Dinosaurs & Survivers of an Earthly Cataclysm Returning Home?

I didn't realise I never moved a copy to PRC Forum.

this is my theory on 2 (greys and reptilians) of the alien species.  they are earthlings from prior ages.  we are the new kids on the block.

[Pimander]

this is my theory on 2 (greys and reptilians) of the alien species.  they are earthlings from prior ages.  we are the new kids on the block.

Makes more sense than a guy from Sirius not needing breathing gear.

[undo11]

Makes more sense than a guy from Sirius not needing breathing gear.

interesting that you arrived at that conclusion with scientific skepticism regarding their abilities and physiology. whereas i arrived at that conclusion based on things like this

[Somamech]

All good points Pimander; may I also suggest that there is the possibility that survivors from the previous cycles of inhabitants here on our rock were very advanced at the times of the various cataclysms and have been here all along.

I believe it was Buzz Aldrin that disclosed the monolith on phobos, if I recall correctly.


seeker

I must admit I clicked on the last page of this thread and read backwards. 

I was thinking only the other night about my last trip in Taiwan and a visit to an Aboriginal Culutre/Nature Musuem sorta place and how the tribe in that area said their ancestor's come from the ground/cave.  I honestly can't recall the exact wording of what was used on the plaque to describe how they came out of the ground. 

Just recently I posted a thread to an awesome doco on Scientific research in regards yo Australian Aboriginals. There was a Cave featured in that doco where the oral tradition also said their ancestor's came from said cave.

I am sure there are more case's of this "out of the ground we came from" around the world, but the above two case's of oral speak are two I have come across in recent time's which if taken literally as described... baffle the mind  

Then we have the sky god's and dragon's to contend with along with UFO's that oral speak talk of :O

My head hurts 

   

[Eighthman]

I regret that I must continue to be quite contrary.  My questions remain unanswered.

Whether an Alien is from a hollow earth, our future, an undersea base in the Pacific or a galaxy far away, we still are faced with the fact that they are not manifest to common society.  No present government (that I am aware of) openly affirms their existence.  The matter is still dominated by dismissals and ridicule.

Where ever their home is,  none of them ever stages a 'Day The Earth Stood Still' visit.  Why not?

"They" apparently shut off some Minuteman missiles - but did not stop the obscene 'Tsar Bomba' test.  Why?

Many channelers assert their benevolence and caring about us but they could easily 'level' the hurtful inequality of our world if they gave us free energy technology.  Why not?

OTOH, I would prefer to think that reported cases that are extremely negative are the product of sick humans, trying to trigger fearfulness by using alien technology.

[Sinny]

NASA footage of CRAFT - if there is any - is taken in the immediate Environment of Earth.  Our space ships are present in the immediate environment of Earth too.  Where are ours from?  Earth of course.  (Also many are plasma critters and not space ships).

If there really is a monolith on Mars (not Hoaxland material is it?) then it may or may not originate from an advanced Earth species OR ET.

I think you are missing my point a little bit here.  What I am trying to say is that, although there is likely such a thing as ET, there is ABSOLUTELY NO STRONG EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that the commonly sighted UFOs (saucers and triangles which are remarkably well adapted to terrestrial conditions) and the commonly sighted humanoids (that surprisingly appear to require no breathing apparatus) ARE ANYTHING OTHER THAN TERRESTRIAL.

Yes, there is likely ET but that is a side issue to what I am saying.

No strong evidence at all that the commonly studied sightings are not terrestrial.  In fact, I think the so called cover up is hiding the fact that it is not ET.  IT IS DISINFORMATION THAT THE COMMON ONES ARE ET.  The debate is deliberately kept about ET or hoax/misinterpretation when neither is the case about the important sightings.  Especially the ones related to nuclear weapons.

The nukes are of interest to the "aliens" because this is their home too.  The "Prime Directive" if it exists would not apply to a crypto-terrestrial race.  Geddit?

If you look at the cover up deeply, you will see that this explanation covers a lot of unexplained things.

ETA:  The Hoaxland material about Mars has disinformation written all over it.  Most of the material indicating ET origins does.

Oh, I completely agree that many 'UFO's are in fact terrestrial - I'm a believer in the Cosmospheres and craft of the like..I didn't include them in your hypothesis because I already accept these as fact- I suppose from an abstract point of view, these craft and the like are what you are discussing.

I also agree with your 'secret, terrestrial, prime directive' -  makes sense.

In regards to the 'Hoaxland' material - I always fall asleep during his lectures  but in regards to those infamous picks - they are there for you or I to interpretate....

My personal opinion is; "Hey - ho"...There's lots going on around us, do we need to worry about labels?

[The Matrix Traveller]

Until the difference between LIFE (a non Material, Non Dimensional Entity) and the experience,
i.e. the body and Environment or Universe is realised.....

Understanding of this subject can NOT be understood in its TRUE Context.

Science today, along with the general public, still don't fully understand.... Reflected in the sense,
where they are looking for LIFE in the Universe.

But that is a bit like looking for LIFE in a "1st Person" Video or Computer game...   

As is the case with a "1st person" video or Computer Game LIFE is NOT strictly inside the environment
of the game!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-person_(video_games)

In video games, first-person refers to a graphical perspective rendered from the viewpoint
of the player character.

In many cases, this may be the viewpoint from the cockpit of a vehicle

Many different genres have made use of first-person perspectives, ranging from adventure games
to flight simulators.

Perhaps the most notable genre to make use of this device is the first-person shooter,
where the graphical perspective has an immense impact on game play.

So to it is also the case with respect to those "Avatars" (us and Alien Species)

http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/avatar

2.    an icon or figure representing a particular person in a computer game, Internet forum, etc.:

in the Universe, a Sophisticated "1st person" game manufactured by LIFE itself, Immaterial
and Non-Dimensional....   

To get to grips with the Alien Enigma, we have to get to grips with the above mentioned scenario,
or we are simply going around in endless circles never making any advance in understanding.

"The LIVING ONE" or "LIVING Component" is actually Outside the Environment of a Projected
Pseudo Projection, one believes to be the foundation of reality where in fact it is nothing more than
a "1st Person" game, Manufactured by LIFE, of a Immaterial and Non-Dimensional World
or Environment.