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Started by Amaterasu, October 02, 2013, 07:35:09 PM

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Amaterasu

From:  http://healthnewsdotcom.blogspot.com/2013/10/obamacare-lie-exposed-as-government.html

QuoteObamacare lie exposed as government website deletes 'free health care' promise

The old axioms "nothing in life is free" and "there is no such thing as a free lunch" have been true throughout the ages, no matter how hard the Obama administration has tried to make certain demographics of American voters believe just the opposite.

Nowhere is that truer than when it comes to promises made about Obamacare.

Indeed, when the subject turns to the Democratic president's signature legislative "accomplishment," a quote from Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels is even more appropriate:

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."

Well, America, brace yourself. As it turns out, health insurance under Obamacare isn't free after all. The big lie is exposed, per The Weekly Standard:

Even as President Obama and his administration are making a last minute push to encourage enrollment in Obamacare, a quiet change was made on the Healthcare.gov website regarding those who will still not be able to afford coverage after the program kicks in. From at least June 26, 2013 to as recently as September 15, under the topic, "Where can I get free or low-cost care in my community?" the following statement appeared: "If you can't afford any health plan, you can get free or low-cost health and dental care at a nearby community health center."

What? It's not free

The conservative news magazine includes graphics of the examples in question, and clearly the word "free" is now missing from the Healthcare.gov site in question (see those graphics here).

The reference to "free" was dropped "sometime between September 16 and September 23," reports the Standard. "The title of the topic was changed as well, and now reads: 'Where can I get low-cost care in my community?'"

Just a slip up? Are the magazine's editors just confused? Judge for yourself:

The page in question is not a new one, as the webpage's Internet address remains the same, still containing the word "free": www.healthcare.gov/where-can-i-get-free-or-low-cost-care/. However, there is no notation anywhere on the page that it was revised; the change just appeared unannounced.

Oops.

There have been other alterations and changes too. For instance, the Healthcare.gov page has dropped references to "dental" care, as well as the availability of "prescription drugs" and the phrase "referrals to specialized care" has been exchanged for "specialized care for more serious conditions."

Get ready for the train wreck

And just whom do you think will be deciding what constitutes a "more serious condition?" You? Your doctor?

Or some newly hired Obamacare bureaucrat working for the Health and Human Services department or the IRS, charged with saving Uncle Sam some money?

Of course, Obama has been making the campaign rounds selling Obamacare of late, lying about the law's provisions and generally "emphasizing...how inexpensive Obamacare will be for many Americans," the Standard reported.

"Inexpensive" isn't really "free" though, is it? So naturally, the administration can't have a word like that in any explanations of the law's provisions, can it?

Well, visitors to Healthcare.gov will soon learn of this "change," no doubt - and consumers in general will soon see just how ravaging this law will be in terms of cost of health insurance coverage, reduced access to care, more expensive care and less options for care and coverage in general.

Sources : http://www.naturalnews.com/042294_Obamacare_free_healthcare_government_lies.html#ixzz2gT9m0IxD
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"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

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burntheships

Just in case there was any doubt that they are
trying to screw us.... ;D

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Need health insurance? The Obama administration has you covered. Simply dial 1-800-frigYO to reach the next available health-care provider.

Far from being a mistype, that's the official number that Health and Human Services wants Americans to dial when seeking health care. Obamacare's national call center really did list its number as 1-800-318-2596, helpfully spelling out President Barack Obama's tendency to blatantly flip the bird in plain view.....

1-800- 3( F) 8(U) 2(C) 5(K) 9(Y) 6(O).

That's 1-800-frigYO. Sadly, the Obama administration failed to swap the useless 1 for a more functional 8 to complete the heartfelt message, perhaps in consolation to former White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel's tragically shortened middle finger.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/03/need-health-care-coverage-just-dial-1-800-frigyo-to-reach-obamacares-national-hotline/



How very unpresidential.

Had to double check on this one, its real.


QuoteQuestions? Call us at 1-800-318-2596
https://www.healthcare.gov/blog/questions-call-us/

Yep, America your screwed.
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Amaterasu

From:  http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2013/10/03/the-devastating-truth-behind-obamacare/

QuoteThe devastating truth behind Obamacare

October 3, 2013

by Jon Rappoport

www.nomorefakenews.com

I want my Obamacare! I want my Obamacare!

It's vital to look at the real meaning of this sinister plan. It's all about the toxic effects of mainstream medicine. That's what the sold-out press is refusing to examine.

A year ago, I discussed the case of a young Michigan boy, whose parents had been taken to court three times to force them to submit their child to intensely toxic chemo treatments—despite these facts:

The boy's latest scans revealed no sign of cancer; the drugs that would be forced on him can cause cancer; the drugs have not been approved to treat children.

And I warned: this is what waits for you and your children, up the line.

The "share and care" humanitarian mask will be peeled away. The US Dept. of Health and Human Services will create, as ordered, a complete list of approved treatments for every disease-label under the sun. And everyone in the insurance plan will be forced to take what the doctor tells them to take.

For a bonus, unapproved treatments will be banned. People and practitioners who try to use alternative treatments will find themselves in trouble.

This is the hidden agenda of Obamacare. This is what it will morph into in the future.

I'm not dreaming or fantasizing. I've been following and reporting on the medical cartel for 30 years, and I know the mindset of these people, these doctors, these bureaucrats, these pharmaceutical string-pullers behind the scenes. Obamacare is right up their alley. It's about control, so it's an answer to their prayers.

So what do we know about their mainstream medicine, the hospital-based drug-addled modern version?

On July 26, 2000, the Journal of theAmerican Medical Association published a landmark paper by Dr. Barbara Starfield (Johns Hopkins School of Public Health), "Is US health really the best in the world?" In it, Starfield revealed what many people inside the medical establishment already knew: every year, like clockwork, the medical system was killing huge numbers of people.

Each year in the US, as Dr. Starfield reported, there are:

12,000 deaths from unnecessary surgeries;

7,000 deaths from medication errors in hospitals;

20,000 deaths from other errors in hospitals;

80,000 deaths from infections acquired in hospitals;

106,000 deaths from FDA-approved correctly prescribed medicines.

The total of medically-caused deaths in the US every year is 225,000. (a conservative estimate)

This makes the medical system the third leading cause of death in America, behind heart disease and cancer.

In the wake of Starfield's devastating report, other facts came to light: 2.1 million people in America, every year, are hospitalized as a result of reactions to FDA-approved medicines.  Annually, 36 million serious adverse reactions to those drugs occur.

So, inclusive health coverage for many more Americans under the Obama Plan means these horrendous figures will rise.

This is the dirty secret.

Obama and his allies are promoting a medical system that is the third leading cause of death in America.  It's that stark and it's that simple.

The Obama Plan involves appointing an "expert panel" to decide what treatments Americans should be given for what diseases, under the new regime.

Only a certified idiot would assume that, over time, alternative non-mainstream therapies would survive such an ongoing vetting.  Hope may spring eternal, but common sense makes it easy to grasp the realities on the ground.

In the long run, alternative therapies will be edged out.  Those that remain will be permitted for a narrow range of conditions, or as adjuncts to standard drug treatments and surgery.

Chiropractors and acupuncturists, who are temporarily basking in the notion that Obama "really cares," are in for a very rude awakening. Their careers and practices will be significantly reduced.  Not today, not tomorrow, but it will happen.

Doctors, under the Plan, will be telling patients they may not take nutritional supplements while in treatment.  This will assume the status of an irreversible edict.  In many cases, "while in treatment" will mean years.

What happens to a person, conscripted into the mandated Insurance Plan, who is told by his doctor that he should/must receive a vaccine?  Suppose this person says no?  What are the consequences?  Will he then be labeled a defector?  What penalties will he suffer?

Does a diagnosis of cancer imply a patient must submit to chemotherapy, radiation, and surgery?  Can these treatments be forced upon him?

Perhaps, in the early days of the Plan, nothing untoward will happen.  But then, as time passes, and the system assumes tighter and tighter controls, the hand of government will close around the recalcitrant patient's neck.

"Take this vaccine. Take this chemo drug. If you don't, you're in violation of the rules."

Doctors, who are an integral part of the Plan, will surely be punished if they give unapproved (alternative) treatments to patients.   

And in order to make the Plan operate on a day-to-day basis, the records and bookkeeping data of every health-care practitioner in America will eventually be tracked on government computer networks.

Every person in America will have a traceable and trackable medical ID package. Government-issued.  There is no way around it.  The monitoring apparatus can't work without it.

Orwellian consequences lie up the road in the field of psychiatric practice.  In case you hadn't noticed, the invention of "disorders" by committee is the preferred method for "discovering" more and more mental illnesses.

Yet, the science is completely fraudulent.  For evidence, consult the many works of psychiatrist Peter Breggin, who has done more than any other person to expose the guts of his own profession. (www.breggin.com)  Breggin establishes that mental disorders are not authoritatively diagnosed by a chemical or biological test.  Conclusive tests do not exist.  And worse, in this undefined and arbitrary territory, the drugs that follow diagnoses are killers: for example, 300,000 cases of motor brain damage, as a result of the administration of major tranquilizers.

Under the Obama Plan, you can bet your bottom dollar that psychiatric care will eventually become mandatory.  A patient suddenly diagnosed with clinical depression or bipolar disease will be told he must take the drugs—and suffer their adverse effects.   

Very young children will be given more and more debilitating and dangerous brain drugs.

Under the Obama Plan, it will be very convenient to declare new pandemics every few seasons, because these phony non-epidemics provide an opportunity to herd the sheep into clinics and remind them who is running the show. Go here, take this vaccine; go there, take that drug; the epidemic is endangering the herd, and you must help your brothers and sisters.

These are the figures on the last several "epidemics."  They are not yearly; they are grand totals, to date; global totals, except in the case of West Nile (US only):

SARS: 774 deaths.

WEST NILE: 1159 deaths.

BIRD FLU: 262 deaths.

SMALLPOX: (terrorist threat): 0 deaths.

SWINE FLU:  18,500 deaths.

To give perspective, globally, 250 thousand to 500 thousand people die of ordinary flu-like illness every year.  Yet this higher death rate accrues no interest as an epidemic.  It is only the "teaching (brainwashing) moments" of the phony epidemics that are promoted by health agencies (e.g., CDC and WHO) and their pharmaceutical allies, who rake in billions by manufacturing new vaccines.

Yes, under the Obama Plan, there will be more declared health emergencies, and they will serve to cement the citizen to his new role as eternal patient in the medical march along bleak streets of the future.

Can you perceive the loss of individual freedom implicit in this universal system of health control?

The widespread (and false) assumption is that more medical care for more people is a good thing. That's what the politicians and the press tell us. That's what the medical bureaucrats and the drug companies tell us. This is the central piece of brainwashing.

It's a baldfaced lie. It's a death-dealing lie.

And now the American people are saddled with it.

Unless the current rebellion against Obamacare expands all over the country.

Jon Rappoport

The author of two explosive collections, THE MATRIX REVEALED and EXIT FROM THE MATRIX, Jon was a candidate for a US Congressional seat in the 29th District of California. Nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, he has worked as an investigative reporter for 30 years, writing articles on politics, medicine, and health for CBS Healthwatch, LA Weekly, Spin Magazine, Stern, and other newspapers and magazines in the US and Europe. Jon has delivered lectures and seminars on global politics, health, logic, and creative power to audiences around the world. You can sign up to receive his free emails at www.nomorefakenews.com
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Amaterasu

#5
AWESOME analysis.



EDIT:  linky-poo

"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

starwarp2000

What's wrong with Obama Care?

1. The Government knows best: Thousands of people had their Insurance cancelled because their policies didn't include the minimum coverage that Obama reckons you need. A 20 yr old single man needs home care cover and a 60 year old couple need maternity cover.
2. Pursuant to the above, those that had all the Insurance cover they needed, now must 'over cover' in order to meet the Obama-care guidelines.
3. Sold as a free health cover for those 'uninsured': Now you know where the money is coming from > Other policy holders forced to buy cover they don't need, with the allowance of a penalty fee if they reject it.
4. The biggest 'scam' in history.
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Amaterasu

If there's no need for money, and doctors are doctors because They care...  There would be no need for insurance.  Scams on the People by the "elite" will NOT happen.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

zorgon

My bad legs cannot afford to deal in 'IF's"   

But it is free in France Germany UK China Canada etc etc etc :D

Maybe I need to go back home for a year ;)

burntheships

So, only 6 people signed up on day 1?

It is Chaos!

Heh, it is all stuck in the same cue!
Website broken, hey just call  1- 800 frigyo...

But that gets people no where as those calling
in and mailing in applications still must be processed
within the same failed ACA site...

What a farce.....


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A series of internal Obama administration memos obtained exclusively by ABC News reveal for the first time how dysfunction with HealthCare.gov has upended the entire Affordable Care Act enrollment process, including applications by paper and phone that officials have been pushing as more reliable alternatives.

While President Obama and other top aides have publicly reassured frustrated consumers that they can bypass the troubled website and apply by phone in as little as 25 minutes, those working most closely with the rollout acknowledged privately that even the nonelectronic avenues would be no more efficient or guaranteed, the documents show.

"The same portal is used to determine eligibility no matter how the application is submitted (paper, online)," reads a Center for Consumer Information and Insurance Oversight memo from Oct. 11.

"The paper applications allow people to feel like they are moving forward in the process and provides another option," it says. "At the end of the day, we are all stuck in the same queue."

Initial Health Care Enrollment Won't Be What Administration Wanted

The documents show that officials decided reluctantly to encourage consumers to fill out paper applications to buy more time and tame mounting frustration with the website.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/11/obamacare-paper-phone-web-apps-stuck-in-the-same-queue-memos-note/

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burntheships

#11
Repeat a lie often enough, and soon people will believe it as truth.
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