Strange Prediction (Again)

[Eighthman]

This is a followup to a post that's over 120 days old.  Are ET's quietly screwing with stuff?

http://nation.time.com/2013/10/08/fiery-metal-melting-explosions-at-nsa-data-center-stump-investigators/

The NSA is experiencing bizarre problems - with actual explosions and fires and metal melting.  They are hard put to explain it all - at their new data center.

[The Seeker]

Eightman, sounds more like the electricians that wired the facility didn't do a real good job of protecting the electric cables when they pulled the wire; arc faults are usually caused in HVAC applications when the insulation on the wiring is damaged, and that normally happens when it is being pulled through the conduit, again usually caused by a sharp or burred edge that wasn't found during the construction of the conduit...


It can have spectacular results when the main power is turned on and there is a dead short, usually a really loud boom accompanied by the conduit exploding at the site of the short and more times than not a fire...


seeker

[zorgon]

It doesn't need to be ET's

All it needs is members of the opposing secret organizations to place key people in key places and toss in that monkey wrench.

We don't need ET to save us... there are enough good people, both in the forefront and behind the scenes that can fix things.

Most will not yet work openly... threats of Gitmo are real enough, but a little loose bolt here, a little oil there and the machine will change

A single guy like Snowden pops up... look what happened... Since his confirmation of what we all here already knew, the house of cards is shaking and starting to tumble.

Who says one human cannot change things?

[zorgon]

People need to get their heads out of the Aliens Arse and start taking responsibility.

The Jews in Nazi Germany waited for God to save them... that didn't work out so good for them... now they take charge of their own affairs (whether you love em or hate em)

Stop waiting for that Federation of Light to send a Magic Pleaidian Army of Princesses to solve your problems for you... because I got news for you... THEY AIN'T COMING

[hoss58]

People need to get their heads out of the Aliens Arse and start taking responsibility.

The Jews in Nazi Germany waited for God to save them... that didn't work out so good for them... now they take charge of their own affairs (whether you love em or hate em)

Stop waiting for that Federation of Light to send a Magic Pleaidian Army of Princesses to solve your problems for you... because I got news for you... THEY AIN'T COMING

Here here... Zorgon you have cut through the 'fog" of Alien lore and laid the truth bare for all to read .!!

[Amaterasu]

People need to get their heads out of the Aliens Arse and start taking responsibility.

The Jews in Nazi Germany waited for God to save them... that didn't work out so good for them... now they take charge of their own affairs (whether you love em or hate em)

Stop waiting for that Federation of Light to send a Magic Pleaidian Army of Princesses to solve your problems for you... because I got news for you... THEY AIN'T COMING

At least You can credit Me with not waiting for a "saver."

[Pimander]

Here here... Zorgon you have cut through the 'fog" of Alien lore and laid the truth bare for all to read .!!

There's more to come soon.  I have a thread planned about similar issues including the deliberate perpetual cultivation of the completely untrue idea that disclosure, by the US government, that UFOs are ETs is imminent.  There won't be disclosure of that and the situation has negative consequences.

God, Jesus, ET or the returning heir to the throne of Israel will not be coming to save you.  EVER.  The cultivation of this idea is easy to perpetuate because they are all linked to belief systems that people have without recourse to facts of any kind.  Many will never let go of these beliefs and are oblivious to the fact that people have been waiting for more than 2000 years and have died waiting.  If you are waiting then you will die waiting for it too.

The perpetuation of this idea is in the interests of peope in power who know they are likely to stay there as long as a significant proportion of the population believe the whole mess will be sorted out anyway by ET, Jesus, God, the returning King or various other Messiah like figures.  These people are unlikely to help themselves while they wait and those in power know it.

Hello. WAKE UP

[The Seeker]

People need to get their heads out of the Aliens Arse and start taking responsibility.

The Jews in Nazi Germany waited for God to save them... that didn't work out so good for them... now they take charge of their own affairs (whether you love em or hate em)

Stop waiting for that Federation of Light to send a Magic Pleaidian Army of Princesses to solve your problems for you... because I got news for you... THEY AIN'T COMING

That is the root cause of many things, Brother, things that you and I see but many cannot; with most religions  it is belief and faith in a Messiah or Savior to come make all the changes for the faithful instead of them taking responsibility for their own spot in life; just another part of the programming to be re-written...

With 'Alien Lore" as Hoss58 has dubbed it, it is no different, for to some belief in an alien or extra-terrestrial race showing up to save the day and help their poor hu-man friends out of the septic tank They created is just another form of religion...

WAKE UP, PEOPLE!

your thoughts,dreams,desires,emotions, all shape the reality we see unfold in front of us... Why worry about the Elite/NWO/whoever you see as being the problem; you are empowering them...
focus on positive things Always...

Pegasus is a cut above the average as members go, for mental ability and critical thinking are a part of the venue coupled with research...

Is it possible that this ball of rock has been visited by others from out there? Is it possible there are dark forces that seek to control and subvert hu-mons?

All things are possible; just don't waste your energy focusing on these things and worrying about them...That is wasting your energy and empowering them...


rant over...



seeker

[Eighthman]

Your counter explanations of this mystery are nearly as unbelievable as the idea that aliens did it!

Really, really, astonishingly bad electrical work?  I have some experience with that, in an industrial setting, and it doesn't need to start fires, explosions or melt equipment.  A dissident organization?  That would be a WOW! moment in itself!

And as for a lack of Alien help,  no one seems to put forward a fully credible theory of what their Rules of Engagement are - or what their Prime Directive consists of.

Even if you throw away the Eisenhower/Alien stories - and the highly credible interference with nukes, we are still left with events such as Roswell in which dumb humans get their hands on Really Advanced stuff - thus, a huge intervention in itself (that they allowed to happen, whether caused by an initial accident or not)

Before I totally give up on Semijase and her buddies, I need to know what the heck the 'rules' are.

[Pimander]

And as for a lack of Alien help,  no one seems to put forward a fully credible theory of what their Rules of Engagement are - or what their Prime Directive consists of.

There is no credible evidence that "they" are ETs.  A Prime Directive would not apply to non-ETs.

Even if you throw away the Eisenhower/Alien stories - and the highly credible interference with nukes,

We don't know it is ET that interfered with the nukes.  All we know is that something did.

we are still left with events such as Roswell in which dumb humans get their hands on Really Advanced stuff - thus, a huge intervention in itself (that they allowed to happen, whether caused by an initial accident or not)

That doesn't mean we know who "they" are.

Before I totally give up on Semijase and her buddies, I need to know what the heck the 'rules' are.

Perhaps there are no rules.  We don't even know who it is so how can we know their rules?

[Eighthman]

If we keep having sightings all over the globe, year after year, but no open "Day The Earth Stood Still " moment, then they have a Prime Directive of some sort, regardless of who they are or where they come from.  I don't see their exact identity as relevant.  One can use the same logic in criminal investigation cases.

Let's spin a hypothesis here:

Once upon a time, there was a small planet in a second rate galaxy that developed intelligent life. Over time, they developed all sorts of technology, while regularly slaughtering each other.

Eventually, when they started thinking about space flight and nuclear weapons,  the Federation Of Whatever The Heck Is Out There decided Disclosure was overdue.  So, they did a Whole Lot of Flyovers  - first, it was goofy "Airships", then flying discs and cigars.

The logic was that the most credible humans on earth ( well vetted pilots and the military) would gradually expose the Truth That We Are Not Alone.

This Plan failed.  The greedy, selfish leaders of earth opposed Disclosure because it would undermine - or wreck- their control of the planet.  The "Flyovers" might even get perverted into deliberate panic to maintain control by creating fear of an invasion. 

The Federation got together again - and what do you think "Plan B" might be ?  What's the next logical step?

[Eighthman]

I'll give you a big hint as to what "Plan B" might be:

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/10/11/ap-poll-voters-dont-approve-of-republicans-democrats-or-obama/

[Pimander]

You're ignoring my point.  What credible evidence is there that "they" are ETs. What credible evidence exists that the UFOs that interfered with nukes are ETs?

Once you have a convincing argument that they are ETs, then it might make sense to make hypotheses about "them".

We know that UFOs exist but that IS NOT EVIDENCE THEY ARE ETs, it just means they exist.

If you are convinced that "they" are ETs then put your money where your mouth is.  Start a thread presenting credible evidence that "they" are ETs.  I don't mean a thread demonstrating UFOs are real.  We know they are beyond doubt.  I mean evidence that UFOs originate on another planet or another galaxy.

If you can't present the evidence, I say it is because it does not exist.

[Ellirium113]

With all the tracking of near earth objects surely if there was any sort of fleet of ships entering orbit it would be picked up. I find the (from outer space) ET hypothesis hard to stomach. If you take into consideration the sheer numbers of these UFO encounters that take place on a daily basis there would be no less than 30 or 40 UFO's visiting the planet at any given moment. There would have to be a base or mother ship of enormous magnitude where they could be tracked to or from. This would have been discovered years ago in my opinion.

We DO know that Time travel and interdimensional travel may exist and it is MORE likely (in my opinion) that any said type of alien being would origionate either FROM EARTH in the far past or distant future, OR come from some other plane and are able to phase in and out of our plane of reality.
It does not make sense for an alien to travel millions of light years to come and anal probe some poor farmer or mutilate a few cows.

There are several theoretical agendas presented for multitudes of aliens. That being said now one must first find evidence said alien exists before one can further extrapolate information that would be of any value from the corresponding agenda. If for some reason we have multitudes of different species doing this then putting the pieces together will be extremely difficult if each different species has their own reasons for visiting. It is very unlikely that many varying types of aliens would be working in conjunction with each other.

One thing we can be certain of is that the power elite ARE creating a breakaway civilization in the sense that they are spending vast quantities of cash on black projects (space capable craft) while their intention for the average joe is to be a debt slave to them or die trying. A lot of this can be traced back to the inception of the Vril society, Golden Dawn society, etc. Follow the money and look very closely at what history is telling us not what the TV says it is.

[Pimander]

It does not make sense for an alien to travel millions of light years to come and anal probe some poor farmer or mutilate a few cows.

The cattle mutilations were carried out by humans.  I suspect they were looking at either the spread of prion disease, the long term effect of nuclear testing on mammals or both.

Your obviously right about the ET hypothesis being at best an incomplete explanation for UFOs and aliens and possibly complete nonsense.

One thing we can be certain of is that the power elite ARE creating a breakaway civilization in the sense that they are spending vast quantities of cash on black projects (space capable craft) while their intention for the average joe is to be a debt slave to them or die trying. A lot of this can be traced back to the inception of the Vril society, Golden Dawn society, etc. Follow the money and look very closely at what history is telling us not what the TV says it is.

Not sure about the Vril society except some leading NAZIs were members.  However, I do know something (a lot in fact) about the Golden Dawn and have had "deep" contact with initiates of its successor orders.  Don't forget, the Golden Dawn was predominantly a UK based sect.  I don't see the link with black projects and space colonisation.  I'd be interested if you have some information on that.

There is a link between the Golden Dawn and Scientology if you want more on that....