So Who Put That Flag On The Moon?

[johnlear]

John that is fascinating! Why is it such a secret? Is it the aliens that want it that way, or our governments? With that many inhabitants there, they must be incredibly efficient to not leave trash ev[erywhere!

Yes. They have been in existence forever. As has the universe. Which is infinite. They are perfect. No errors of anykind. No screwups. The ET's direct everything. You get a joke every once in a while called free will, or whats the other one...oh yeah, freedom of choice. HAH!!!

You know how they produce those super high tech UFO's? They grow 'em. On a vine. Each one perfect.

...and I have to ask, have you, or anyone you know been there? Thanks for visiting!

We have all been there many times in our lives. We are just not allowed to remember it because it is none of our business.

I bet the aliens have Jim Oberg bobble-head dolls on their dash boards!

That's true. But since there is no movement inside a flying saucer the bobble-heads don't move so they have to flick it every once in a while with those 6 inch long fingernails.

[Cosmic4life]

As you say John I only have NASA facts and not my own ... there's no disputing that ... and now there are John Lear facts which are also impossible for me to dispute.

I'm afraid for now I will have to doubt you both as there is no way to verify who's making poop up......until I set foot on the Moon I am forced to say to both you and NASA...... I deny your reality and substitute my own.

I like the idea of the Moon being constructed inside of Jupiter 38 billion years ago but how old is the Universe ? Even assuming a typo 38 million yrs ago, built by whom ??  for what ??

Tell me more .... I am genuinely interested because i don't know... just don't expect a free ride .... an ancient Moon constructed for a purpose .... extraordinary claims require  extraordinary evidence , you know that.

Cosmic..

Lol what the hell ... I did not write poop...I was courser..haha...Is there a program doing that ?

[Littleenki]

UFO's growing on a vine...for some reason that is the best explanation Ive heard..bar none, John. Are we talking like the supposed ones in the rings of Saturn which Mr Bergrum says they grow?

When we look at the Moon through our telescopes..are we really seeing it as it is, or is the view we get some sort of cloaked scene?

It seems so innocent but for years now Ive known in my heart something was up because of how it is locked in facing Earth..not so odd for ancient peoples, but as for modern folks it must be getting a bit hard to explain.

Fascinating words in your posts, sir, most fascinating!

Le

[Cosmic4life]

"They have been in existence forever. As has the universe. Which is infinite. They are perfect. No errors of anykind. No screwups".

Hmmm and no uncertainty and no surprises......they must be bored out of their minds.

Cosmic..

[guerande]

Hi John, nice to see you back on forum !

Tell me ,please , did you  ever read Velikovski ? And what's your feelings about it ?

I have just re-read it, and think it's really a great book ...

All the best

Guerande

[johnlear]

Hi John, nice to see you back on forum !

Tell me ,please , did you  ever read Velikovski ? And what's your feelings about it ?

I have just re-read it, and think it's really a great book ...

All the best

Guerande

He has a lot of good information. I got some of my moon info from him.

[zorgon]

I have PROOF POSITIVE that there is a flag on the Moon...

I found it in a picture on the internet so it must be true 

[johnlear]

"They have been in existence forever. As has the universe. Which is infinite. They are perfect. No errors of anykind. No screwups".

Hmmm and no uncertainty and no surprises......they must be bored out of their minds.

Cosmic..

They are happy beyond belief. So much to do, so much to see, so much to learn, so much to give.

It tough explain that to a 3Der. Just wait. You'll see. And will you ever be surprised. Everyone is. But it seems you can't tell them anything here because they just can't comprehend.

[Cosmic4life]

They are happy beyond belief. So much to do, so much to see, so much to learn, so much to give.

It tough explain that to a 3Der. Just wait. You'll see. And will you ever be surprised. Everyone is. But it seems you can't tell them anything here because they just can't comprehend.

Maybe we shouldn't comprehend as that would reduce the imposed restriction of 3D space......"we are not here to change the world but for the world to change us......"

A raw spirit sees only dreams that can be altered at will.......Earth imposes restrictions that teach the raw spirit the existence of self and other, the benefits of constructive creation.....I get that, it has a logic to it....but how far does it go ?? is perfection desirable or even attainable ??  One would be as a Crystal if perfect were attainable, but perfect would be the end of time as well.

Time is the measure of the uncertainty wave that pulses through our 3D existence, that 4% in constant flux  that is required for change to occur.

Are these perfect beings physical or ethereal ??

What is the program ?? As release of information would destroy the program does that mean that the program is coming to an end like a graduation to a new level....and a new program....one with retention of past life and after life memory.

So many questions...

Cosmic..

[The Matrix Traveller]

I guess the problem lays with the Producer involving a total lack of organization re.
the Stage "Support Crew".

They should have had Peter Jackson take control. It would have made it more Convincing.

I wonder if we will ever be shown footage regarding the activity of the human species
on the Moon ?

I do accept the human species has involvement on the Moon but I just see
poor coordination between the real deal and the Staged events...

This is the "Producers" Responsibility.

They certainly should have employed Peter Jackson.   

[KathyT]

Thanks to all who commented of my first comment about the shield reflection.  Someone else helped me understand the upper dark portion was likely the dark sky behind the camera person.  And the unknown figure I didn't understand, was probably the astronauts arm.

I really appreciate John's comments.

[Phedre]

This is not exactly "Vine Grown" but interesting any way!

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/technology-blog/nasa-funds-research-self-building-spaceships-005656003.html

[Pimander]

Tell me more .... I am genuinely interested because i don't know... just don't expect a free ride .... an ancient Moon constructed for a purpose .... extraordinary claims require  extraordinary evidence , you know that.

The moon itself might be that evidence.  Click the image for a link.

The authors of Civilization One return, bringing new evidence about the Moon that will shake up our world. Christopher Knight and Alan Butler realized that the ancient system of geometry they presented in their earlier, breakthrough study works as perfectly for the Moon as it does the Earth. They found a consistent sequence of integer numbers that they can apply to every major aspect of the Moon; no such pattern emerges for any other planet or moon in the solar system. In addition, Knight and Butler discovered that the Moon possesses few or no heavy metals and has no core—something that should not be possible. Their persuasive conclusion: if higher life only developed on Earth because the Moon is exactly what it is and where it is, it becomes unreasonable to cling to the idea that the Moon is a natural object—an idea with profound implications

SOURCE: http://www.amazon.com/Who-Built-Moon-Christopher-Knight/dp/1842931636

[Pimander]

Tell me ,please , did you  ever read Velikovski ? And what's your feelings about it ?

Velikovsky was a brilliant man.  What parts of the scientific community did to him were deplorable.  He may not had been right about everything (who is?) but he hit the nail on the head with the idea that Earth has been through multiple catastrophes.  Some of the survivors may be what are popularly though to be aliens.

[Primus58]

Velikovsky was a brilliant man.  What parts of the scientific community did to him were deplorable.  He may not had been right about everything (who is?) but he hit the nail on the head with the idea that Earth has been through multiple catastrophes.  Some of the survivors may be what are popularly though to be aliens.

Pimander, thanks for the book tips, I look forward to new material! I believe there were ancient civilizations more advanced than ours; who knows, maybe some of them went to the stars. Perhaps a better title for this thread would be, "Under which flag was the moon built?"... assuming the builders have a flag!