Why Anonymous are not to be trusted

[zorgon]

awaiting snow in N Georgia...

Can you request Anonymous to hack the weather control satellites and send some of that white stuff our way?

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

We close with this, and ask all three of you: Ellirium113, ArMaP and Sgt.Rocknroll to comment on this video and please not continue to attack the messenger - although "...your all knowing greatness" was recorded as potential enlightenment on Sarge's part - or not   

Sarge, You may now rise from bended knee (and, in the future, please reserve genuflection for Zorgon).   

Your entitled to your opinion and i to mine. That is the point here! The difference is I'm not going to call you ignorant because you believe what you do. You insult in your posts then apologize at the end. And everything is ok? Naw I don't think so. And that's my point. Nothing else. I don't care about your messages! Your posts are too long for me to waste my time going through all the pretty gifs. But that's me and some find your posts entertaining.

Peace, love and light dear friend!

[ArMaP]

Ignorance (no offense was intended) implies that One 'perhaps overlooked' (in their due diligence in order to comment coherently on this subject) or perhaps 'conveniently' missed these, among numerous other instances where We, the People, voice their concerns.

See, it's the inclusion of things like that "conveniently" that may make some people interpret those messages as offensive, at least that's how I see it, although I am not offended by anything.

Another thing, you (either your individual "you" or any collective "you" from which you are part) are not "the people", you (any "you") are just part of the people, and "you" are not voicing my concerns, only voicing your own concerns. Yes, they may be common to many people, but not to all, and you (any "you") say that you are talking in other people's name you are, effectively, usurping their voice, specially when talking "in the name" of people that, for reason or another, cannot answer an YouTube video, for example.

BTW, there are esteemed members of PRC and Alpha Tango Sierra who were actively involved in Code Name "Egypt Spring" / Operation Egypt and ...   

That's irrelevant.

We Are You   

No, you're not, stop lying.

Bias is where One looks for the negative in all instances concerning 'Anonymous' without sufficient background to make such all-encompassing statements.

No, bias can be pro or against any thing, anyone biased towards Anonymous may not see their negative side, in the same way someone biased against them may not see the positive side.
And as for "encompassing statements", what about "we are you"? There's nothing more encompassing than that.

We close with this, and ask all three of you: Ellirium113, ArMaP and Sgt.Rocknroll to comment on this video and please not continue to attack the messenger - although "...your all knowing greatness" was recorded as potential enlightenment on Sarge's part - or not   

First of all, I did  watch the video.
My only comment is: it's just the same blah, blah, blah.

[Sinny]

See, it's the inclusion of things like that "conveniently" that may make some people interpret those messages as offensive

All the people from all walks of life need to grow up, grow a pair, and stop being offended. Period.

[ArMaP]

All the people from all walks of life need to grow up, grow a pair, and stop being offended. Period.

Why? Being offended is a personal thing, isn't that limiting their freedom?

[Sinny]

As being 'offended' is an emotion, that cannot be infringed upon.

Neither can their emotion infringe upon anyone elses right to offend lool.

Hense my advice, things will run far more smoothly if peole learn not to take offence.

[ArMaP]

As being 'offended' is an emotion, that cannot be infringed upon.

No, but when you say something like "people need to stop being offended", it looks like you are trying to limit their emotions.

Hense my advice, things will run far more smoothly if peole learn not to take offence.

Said that way, I agree.

[Sinny]

No, but when you say something like "people need to stop being offended", it looks like you are trying to limit their emotions.

Try as I like, I don't have the power to do so haha.

[RUSSO]

My only comment is: it's just the same blah, blah, blah.

Just? I thought blah, blah, blah along with 42 number was the TRUTH about EVERYTHING....

[zorgon]

All the people from all walks of life need to grow up, grow a pair, and stop being offended. Period.

So if I see members of a certain group stoning women because they dare speak... I should not take offense?

Hmmm perhaps outrage then?

All things are relative 

And by that logic... no one should take offense by anything the PTB do in our name. Just grow a pair and ignore it, go on about your business.  Yup would make for a more peaceful world   

[Sinny]

Sorry I should have been clearer.

I was referring to individual opinions, from the perspective of 'Political Correctness' - and not individual or group *actions*. 

In regards to (I think it was Sarge's) comment that Thor had 'Offended' him and all was "not okay" for him.

People are free to offend, within the 'law' naturally.

And Z.. Ignoring problems does not make them go away.

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

I guess I don't get it. I'm ignorant for not towing the line and agreeing with someone? Ooooookkkkk. 

I was actually referring to Thors statement to someone else.

I'm not offended by anything I've seen here. Just don't care anymore.

[Sinny]

A few of you are *ignoring* the fact that Anonymous are not all bad, and have created some positive acheivements.

From that perspective, I have seen some ignorance...

I think Thor is just seeking some recognition of that fact.

With people like Thor at the helm, how could they not be making positive impacts?

I think there's a large effort going on to discredit any sort of resistance we make and any form of independant thought we have.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, they can only destroy that which we allow them to destroy.

If we all just 'quit' because a few people are utterly defeatest, we'd never get anywhere... Anywhere good anyway.

[ArMaP]

A few of you are *ignoring* the fact that Anonymous are not all bad, and have created some positive acheivements.

Just because someone does some good things along with some bad doesn't mean that we should forget the bad, otherwise John Wayne Gacy should have been pardoned.

I think Thor is just seeking some recognition of that fact.

Then I suppose he should present the positive facts and stop the publicity.

With people like Thor at the helm, how could they not be making positive impacts?

From what I have seen, Thor is a great help for those in need, and someone that is always ready to help, but that doesn't mean that all the things he does are positive, or even that any of the things he does are 100% positive, as they say, Hell is full of good intentions.

I think there's a large effort going on to discredit any sort of resistance we make and any form of independant thought we have.

No need for that, they do the discrediting themselves.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, they can only destroy that which we allow them to destroy.

Yes, that's why I don't want anyone to present themselves as speaking for myself.

If we all just 'quit' because a few people are utterly defeatest, we'd never get anywhere... Anywhere good anyway.

True, but doing the wrong things wouldn't help either. What's the use of defacing a web site (something that lasts some hours) to protest against something if things remain as they were (or get even worse)? After all these years they should have an extremely long list of very positive things done, but I'm still waiting for it.

[Ellirium113]

Sorry I should have been clearer.

I was referring to individual opinions, from the perspective of 'Political Correctness' - and not individual or group *actions*. 

In regards to (I think it was Sarge's) comment that Thor had 'Offended' him and all was "not okay" for him.

People are free to offend, within the 'law' naturally.

And Z.. Ignoring problems does not make them go away.

I think it was my less than politically correct remark about them that started this. While I apologize for my colorful use of terminology, I do not apologize for my opinion that they are not about to change the path of the future in any significant way. I can't in good faith commend them for their actions on one front while at the same time they are destroying the lives of innocents they are sworn to be helping by releasing personal information of people simply guilty by association within the scope of their attacks while the real culprits go about their business.