Startling Footage of a Triangle Craft over the Netherlands

[zorgon]

Startling Footage of a Triangle Craft over the Netherlands

Published on 29 Oct 2013

Don't be fooled by the apparent lack of action.

Thank you American Kabuki for sharing. If that's a TR-3B, they seem to have mastered the Galactics' propulsion/navigation techniques.

This triangle shaped object was sighted near Amsterdam in Wormeveer, Netherlands. The film-maker discovered it to the east outside the village. Since it was windy he first thought at a kite. But it looked larger on the sky and it looked like made of some sort of metal. Also a string was not seen. The object did absolutely not move like a kite. As afterwards the object suddenly flew away lightning fast the film-maker was scared. It is again an UFO in a triangle shape, which often is seen in the year 2013.

[ArMaP]

The perspective looks wrong, the sound (and the time it takes to reach the camera) looks wrong.

I don't think that's real.

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

The camera pans before the object moves at the end. Set up.

[zorgon]

Thread Killers

[deuem]

What is wrong with the perspective? Can you please suppy details?

Why would the time from object to camera be off, please explain the amount of time and calculate the distance. Like Lightning it should be delayed.

Sarge, I can't see the video yet, what is the problem with a hand held camera moving before it moves, did he get lucky. It is a 50/50 change right or left.

More to come,

Deuem, I need the HD video.

[stealthyaroura]

any good posting the link Deuem?
be interesting to put this one to bed it does look dodgy.
there is like pixelation when the 'craft' shoots to one side where it was?
and you can see the sun glint off the 'craft'
yes it could be CGI and it probably is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=KKuYNtg7M0s

I swear I hate Hoaxers! there not even funny.
post a clever bit of CGI? just say so!! so sick of all the BS

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

When the vid is slowed down at the end, the camera is panned to the left to catch the 'craft' zooming away 'before' the craft moves as the cameraman is expecting it to zoom away in that direction.

Sorry Z

[ArMaP]

What is wrong with the perspective? Can you please suppy details?

The object appears to be moving away from the camera but the perspective doesn't change as it should, as the object gets farther away we should see it more from the side than from below.

Why would the time from object to camera be off, please explain the amount of time and calculate the distance. Like Lightning it should be delayed.

Sorry, my mistake, I didn't use the headphones to watch the video and I thought that the sound I heard was (supposedly) from the object, now that I heard it with the headphones I noticed is not.

Deuem, I need the HD video.

Does this work?

[zorgon]

Sorry Z

LOL Don't shoot the messenger

[deuem]

Ok After many times I managed to get the 720 version. Any Deuem work should be done on the 1080.

Now as far a perspective I did not see a problem, It did get smaller as it driffted away and he was zooming in on it very slowly. At a point he back zoomed and it became very small in the frame.

The UFO looks like it lost its floating field and could not remain level so they kicked in the main flight drive unit and took off.

Sarge The video has 3 sections. The original section where it took off is not panned at all, unless I missed something. Section 2 has a close up of the final burst on it goes off screen left, Section 3 is a computer control pan and "follow vid" of the UFO taking off. It is not a pre-arranged pan.

So I just watched 3 sections. The 1 close ups and pan are right neer the end. I can not pick up any noise from the UFO, It seems like all the noise is local traffic.

This is not a dead issue yet.    Still working on it. Need to get the 1080 version for best results.

When working a white UFO it is very difficult to do and easier to fake so they take a lot of time and a series of frames neeeds to be evaluated to make any sense from a video. From frame to frame it can overpower even Deuem.

We will see, Sarge I would like to ask you if you just looked at the end and judged your remark or did you watch it through and see the 3 parts? I find no pan in the original....

This is a fun one........Someone get a cheep plastic ruler and measure the UFO in frame, from frame to frame and you will see it gets smaller. A clear 12 inch ruler was my first research tool, Second came a calculator and 3rd clear mylar taped to the screen to write on.  They are very cheep but you can track the flight path and size. run the math and see what you get per frame. Do this with about 5 cents in waste.
Maybe UFO school on a budget is needed...

Deuem

[deuem]

any good posting the link Deuem?
be interesting to put this one to bed it does look dodgy.
there is like pixelation when the 'craft' shoots to one side where it was?
and you can see the sun glint off the 'craft'
yes it could be CGI and it probably is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=KKuYNtg7M0s

I swear I hate Hoaxers! there not even funny.
post a clever bit of CGI? just say so!! so sick of all the BS

Hi, This is a good project to tackle. I am currently working with another team member on it behind the curtain. I have only processed 1, 1080 frame and it was a screen grab, not a frame grab. So I need frame grabs at 1080 with all the details that go along with it.

In the really good CGI world like Lucas, they do their best to make it a very clean job. Seems the cheeper you go the worse the CGI gets and other tell tails show up.

One of the things I talk about is atmospreric interference. On a CGI model they just add blur or motion blur and that shows up pretty fast. But why or how a CGI person can figure out what I do and then lay in interference in all the right places way beyond the craft is beyond my CGI knowledage. It is either there or not there.

This interference also should follow some laws. Where the bow wake is, how did it cut clouds, What does the trail look like and so on. Nobel gasses are the key, track them to figure it out.

More to come.....

Deuem

[ArMaP]

Ok After many times I managed to get the 720 version. Any Deuem work should be done on the 1080.

See if works.

Now as far a perspective I did not see a problem, It did get smaller as it driffted away and he was zooming in on it very slowly. At a point he back zoomed and it became very small in the frame.

The problem is not the apparent size of the UFO, it's the position as seen from the camera; as it looks like it is getting relatively far from the camera it should appear as seen more from the side than from below.

Sarge The video has 3 sections. The original section where it took off is not panned at all, unless I missed something. Section 2 has a close up of the final burst on it goes off screen left, Section 3 is a computer control pan and "follow vid" of the UFO taking off. It is not a pre-arranged pan.

I think you're right, the last section looks like a stabilized version of the end of the first section.

This is a fun one........Someone get a cheep plastic ruler and measure the UFO in frame, from frame to frame and you will see it gets smaller. A clear 12 inch ruler was my first research tool, Second came a calculator and 3rd clear mylar taped to the screen to write on.  They are very cheep but you can track the flight path and size. run the math and see what you get per frame. Do this with about 5 cents in waste.
Maybe UFO school on a budget is needed...

Or you can grab a frame from the video, paste it on your favourite image editor and measure it.

The side of the triangle on the first frame is (more or less, it's hard to get a clear measurement, as the image is not sharp) 48 pixels. At 1:30.09, when the triangle has one edge parallel to the bottom of the frame, that edge measures the same 48 pixels.

PS: I used the downloaded 1080 version of the video, Avidemux to see the video frame by frame and Paint Shop Pro to measure the triangle.

[deuem]

The link is doing something very very slow. Maybe have to wait a day or two.

I wrote about the ruler and mylar to let beginners know that they can do something without spending money or getting into the high tech we use.  Many people stay on the side lines because they are not trained in the programs we use. I know many are free but then they have to self train.  A lot of people stop rigth there.

We have what 500 members, how many work UFOs? A small handful. How many want to but can't? The note was for them. For you I expect you to know all of the programs we can use for free and bring them to the table. People might grab them and try it.

If you can't get a good measurement then wand it and do a pixel count frame to frame. The quantity should get lower as long as it stays flat. If a nose dips then the count would go up.  As far at it going from a flat view to an on edge view with a craft that large it would need to move a great distance. Maybe a half mile or more. I never saw it more more than a few hundred feet.

I can now watch planes take off every day and they have to travel a few milles before I get a tail view and lose the side view. They just get smaller at first. But I have that same similar side view for at least 1 or more miles. just smaller and a little angled.

The video is of a rotating triangle that is turning and dipping and he is zooming. Perspective is all over the place. I don't even know where to start on where it is. Would have to track a position I gave it and see how that point moves.  Can you apply a point and track it?  Or even better apply 3 points and track them? Add 3 points over the video so we can motion track the UFO..  Now that would be cool to see.

Glad you found the 3rd section. Waiting for Sarge to chime in and see what he says... Oh Sarge?

Did the guy who took the video post the video?

Fakers follow a path and usually have other fake videos. Sometimes hundreds.

Is the man available for questions?

Was there any info posted, time of day, area, camera, any details?

If a real sighting, other details are needed to fill in the blanks.

Calling a UFO a fake with just a quick responce is like shoting your wife because you saw her in a bait and tackle store talking with another man and then after you shot her a new custom fishing pole shows up on you birthday.

So even if it is fake then how did they do it and can one of us duplicate it exactly? Otherwise what did we learn for the next one? Will that duplicate match in Deuem? I want to process it, if only to learn what to look for.

Deuem,  more to come...........
ps it is getting time for another new keyboard, my keys are sticking and causing typos.

[ArMaP]

The link is doing something very very slow. Maybe have to wait a day or two.

The link I posted on my last post is for my server, that's why it's slow, but it shouldn't be that slow.

I wrote about the ruler and mylar to let beginners know that they can do something without spending money or getting into the high tech we use.  Many people stay on the side lines because they are not trained in the programs we use. I know many are free but then they have to self train.  A lot of people stop rigth there.

As someone that always wants to learn more I forget about the people that do not want or have the time for it, luckily you thought of them.

As far at it going from a flat view to an on edge view with a craft that large it would need to move a great distance. Maybe a half mile or more. I never saw it more more than a few hundred feet.

Not really, perspective is noticeable for small changes, although most people do not understand it.

Can you apply a point and track it?  Or even better apply 3 points and track them? Add 3 points over the video so we can motion track the UFO..  Now that would be cool to see.

Sorry, I don't understand what you mean by that.

Fakers follow a path and usually have other fake videos. Sometimes hundreds.

Is the man available for questions?

Was there any info posted, time of day, area, camera, any details?

If a real sighting, other details are needed to fill in the blanks.

This is what they have about the YouTube channel.

UFOFilesTV is a "Latest UFO" channel on YouTube. Our goal is it to upload real UFO sightings because with today's modern Computer technology you can fake many things. Video Agency of Audio Color World own all distribution rights of the uploaded videos on our YouTube channel. If you like to use videos for uploads or commercial use please contact "info@videoagency.audiocolorworld.com".

Calling a UFO a fake with just a quick responce is like shoting your wife because you saw her in a bait and tackle store talking with another man and then after you shot her a new custom fishing pole shows up on you birthday.

It depends on how that quick response was obtained, a quick response based on many years of training is not the same as a quick response based on nothing.

So even if it is fake then how did they do it and can one of us duplicate it exactly? Otherwise what did we learn for the next one? Will that duplicate match in Deuem? I want to process it, if only to learn what to look for.

Apparently, many people use Adobe After Effects, but I don't have it or know how to use it.

[deuem]

Deuem says; study the video from 1.14 to 1.23 plus
 
What do you see ?

I'm not telling!

  Figure it out !

CGI ?