The Plan

[Amaterasu]

Ya know...  Keynes clearly did not understand the role of a money system in promoting the psychopaths, or if He did, He hid it well.

And Y'know, out of tens of thousands of "rich" People, if You think being able to find one or three entertainment "stars" - who are COACHED to be outrageous for the cameras - paints the picture of how They all - or even most of Them - live, You've been sucking too much MSM teat.

[The Matrix Traveller]

So...  I should just give up?  Let it go and scrape it out the rest of My days, learning that My ideas are pointless?  That what I do is irrelevant?

Is that what I can take from what You said?

NO you misunderstand me....   

Why give up your efforts they directly have an affect on yourself?

It is yourself which is important, and what you experience here. (In this Program)

Why do you believe your ideas are pointless ? Surely they are the most important to you ?

Your ideas are far from being irrelevant, as they directly affect you.

It is what you learn by the time the "story" is over for you in this generation, just as it will be for me
and others.

I thought Sky put it well for you ?


Look, I hopefully will learn as well, as a result of my independent efforts, and at the end of the day,
what I do or Don't do, will only affect myself and no one else.

When I die, I will be forgotten by the world within a few days, and it will be like I had never been
on Earth (In the Earth Program)

But hopefully I will have learnt something out of it all, and will make use of what I have experienced
(and hopefully learnt) in the future beyond this present experience.

I guess I am just the eternal optimist ?   

[Amaterasu]

NO you misunderstand me....   

Why give up your efforts they directly have an affect on yourself?

It is yourself which is important, and what you experience here. (In this Program)

Why do you believe your ideas are pointless ? Surely they are the most important to you ?

Your ideas are far from being irrelevant, as they directly affect you.

It is what you learn by the time the "story" is over for you in this generation, just as it will be for me
and others.

I thought Sky put it well for you ?


Look, I hopefully will learn as well, as a result of my independent efforts, and at the end of the day,
what I do or Don't do, will only affect myself and no one else.

When I die, I will be forgotten by the world within a few days, and it will be like I had never been
on Earth (In the Earth Program)

But hopefully I will have learnt something out of it all, and will make use of what I have experienced
(and hopefully learnt) in the future beyond this present experience.

I guess I am just the eternal optimist ?   

I did not say I thought it was pointless...  I was asking You if that was what You were saying...

I struggle with the idea that My work is all for ME when it is Humanity I do what I do for.  Not ME.  I mean, if I succeed, I will take advantage too, but for those children who die of starvation, for My daughter who will live in Agenda 21 if We do nothing, these are My motivations.

[deuem]

Want the free energy devices to make it big time?

GIVE them to CHINA... free of charge

Hey does Deuem get the first one.  The line starts behind me fellas.

As I wrote some months ago, Free energy here would be met with a trip to the bottom of a river.

I have friends in high and low places. They all said, if not on the meter, don't do it. Even a tickle would get by but no plug no start up.....TPTB are everywhere and they don't want the boat to be rocked. Very efficent is the word, Even if that plug only lit up a LED on a 5 hp Air con, It is plugged in....step by step....

[Amaterasu]

well i have tried to keep out of this  mostly because there are good points here and there

but
if you are waiting for the perfect time to be happy  or to be saved or for someone to listen to you
or anything
you are SO missing the point of this excusion on this rock

you have to find what is in yourself at this moment to be joyous..not just so-so content
but to be happy in the chaos..
in someone elses words   ..    find your bliss
maybe that bliss is just comfort..but it's your decision what your bliss is in the moment
and it can change
if you spend your time looking to others..you have failed
we are all  like a pebble into the pool.. your whatever  spreads
i'ld rather my spirals outward were joyous

Z is working on his by dumping the financial bs and along the way he is sharing his info
it's not on him wheather anyone uses it..he did his part
sadly amy  imo you are sitting on your hands waiting for someone to take care of you and what you think the world should be like.
.perhaps a better use for your dreams would be writting fantasy novels..you have excellent writting skills and some ideas that would be great stories..
flesh them out.. and get them published...pretent it is fiction
that seems to work well for coming true..
most here are living off of ideas they have seen in print or watched in movies..
you might accomplish your goals in that way
argueing your ideas here isn't doing it

by being here we are afforded the time to learn that we truly are in charge of our own destiny
tons of deversions and such to slow you down.. but only if you let yourself be sidetracked



there is only one lesson here...you are in charge of your own and only your own destiny


every obstical in your path is only to make you be more aware that
you call the shots in how things are handled for you

sorry for the mini rant and soapbox preachiness..
going outside to pull some weeds..

Somehow missed this in the barrage of posting.  Maybe You all fail to see the very deep ecstasy I feel in having ideas I know are worthwhile to offer Humanity.  Is it that unclear?

No, I am NOT "sitting on My hands."  I have ONE thing I live for and that is giving Humanity a plan that takes Us away from Agenda 21, Codex Alimentarius, GMO's, "geoengineering," sodium fluoride, Aspartame, HFCS, water grabs, air taxes...

But I know I am a burden because I am not finding work.  I have applied to over 75,000 jobs, EVERY ONE being certain I would be offered it - and here I am.

I wrote The Abundance Paradigm, a novella, as science "fiction."  Added some other pieces and made a book.  It is sitting on Amazon Kindle gathering dust, not having sold enough to yet get one royalty check.

I'm not good at selling, I guess.

If I could get printouts I could send it to all the places that require hard copy - the bigger houses.  I have sent it to a number of esubmission places, and am still awaiting to hear back from Analog.  The other places turned it down.

I can only write well what is in My heart; if another fiction comes along in My heart, I will write it, but for now I am busy writing things to best express what is in there now.  And that is how We can solve this mess.

[deuem]

I have been reading this since the start and I think that all Peggy people understand what TAP is all about. It is not the idea I am in question about, it is the turn over of the entire planet that is in question. I think if 100% of the planet knew about this it would not trip. It is not like replacing a dictator or marching on wall street. It is a re-write of every single thing people do. A re-boot of life.

How do we do that with out some master detailed plan of events to follow.  I did find another post I made here on the wrong thread and I asked Z to move it, his and your answer also.

I talked about backwards planning and plans..Maybe just take one of those and plan it down to a "T" to see if it could be done. You see, just saying something never gets anything done. The elite are either born into it or they have a great plan to get it.  Without a detailed plan it is just winging it and people will drop you very fast. Just another 2012 thingy..

If they have something to sink their teeth into you will suceed.......Sheep need a tender. In this field I think most of us are sheep. Since this would be harder than going to the moon, the plan needs to be even better than what ever they had...

Peggy people are not your targets for awareness, they should be the targets for figuring out the details and giving you ideas for the plan, like we do in the IG. Your a member there, I hope you can see how it works and why we all love it. We work together.....a KEY !

I think if you present it like a flow chart and list the questions and ask for fixes you will get a better responces. People love to help. We will tap you with our knowledge of the world. Plant the idea and let it grow. If it is worthwhile, it will grow.  Don't ever under estimate the power of this group to come up with answers. Many will go out to their other sites and ask there for you. And do research for FREE to assist you. Ask away, you get fruit, State away, you get stoned.  Simple logic...

In all my few years of forums, I have never been stoned to death for asking a question. Stating a fact or opinion, YES...We all have been stoned from time to time. Ouch !

Think this way, you are in our future living in a perfect TAP life and you are telling me how your world overcame every problem to get there. Figure out what the problems are and ask how to fix them.

What is my world going to look like when you tell me my story 

Deuem

[The Matrix Traveller]

I struggle with the idea that My work is all for ME when it is Humanity I do what I do for.  Not ME.  I mean, if I succeed, I will take advantage too, but for those children who die of starvation, for My daughter who will live in Agenda 21 if We do nothing, these are My motivations.

I once believed the same about what I am doing, but the "Program Books" are Not written
by the "Absolute Centre" of your, me or any other except our individual Outer Mind.

It is the function of the "Absolute Centre" of the Mind to experience, and it is the function
of your Other End of your mind (Outer) to present WHAT the "Outer End"
of your Mind (LIFE) has "Written", despite what many may want to believe.

A kart does NOT normally tow a horse, unless it is out of control.
Normally it is the horse which tows the kart.

When one receives the Processing Systems "Updates" and learns how to edit Programs,
we are sill restrained by Programed "boundaries" containing our options.


It is the "boundaries" which Controls the degree of our experience.


I can understand the need to change, but we must learn what this world is really about, 1st.

It has nothing at all to do with temporary things, but instead that which is permanent. (Eternal)


This Program (Earth and species) does have a unique purpose, which has nothing at all to do
with human imagination, beliefs, religion, or human evolution, or development, nor does it
have anything to do with bliss or suffering.


It is the "Outer Mind" which governs and looks after the "Absolute Centre" end of the Mind.   

The human primate can't as it wanders through the Maze.

But then sadly some think they know better than LIFE....


It does however involve a purpose, which never enters the human psyche of most.


When we discover these things our understanding of this world changes.


In some ancient writings this world was known as "The City of Endurance".   

[burntheships]

Maybe You all fail to see the very deep ecstasy I feel in having ideas I know are worthwhile to offer Humanity.  Is it that unclear?

Amy, imo it is very clear that you have a deep
belief in your TAP ideas, which is a key to any
concept taking off and taking hold.

Peggy has some bright minds, and some
of the kindest folks; a good sounding
board for your ideas...as such a place is
rare to find, maybe take a look at the
feedback, and try and choose one or two
ideas/concepts you deem as valid input.

As a small example, I think that your
TAP concept has potential, yet
you have very far forward thinking
( not a bad thing ) ....maybe try
and scale it to the next 50 years of
technology, then scale from there
to some everyday energy sources
that have a viable solution on the
horizon, and incorporate those
steps into a larger picture.

This is not a criticism, rather
trying to brainstorm your ideas
with the other minds here. At least
that is what I see happening.....

I have ONE thing I live for and that
is giving Humanity a plan that takes Us away
from Agenda 21, Codex Alimentarius, GMO's,
"geoengineering," sodium fluoride, Aspartame,
HFCS, water grabs, air taxes...

Again, imo that is a solid goal.

I wrote The Abundance Paradigm, a novella, as science "fiction." 

Amy, this is just an idea, again not a criticism. What if you took
your works as they are and elevated them to a "next" level
in either direction. For instance, take your science "fiction" and
embellish it to make your case more "powerful".

Imagine Orwell and his 1984, or Huxley and his
Brave New World....works of "fiction" that are
essentially playing out now as we live.

If you were to do this it in no way would diminish
the power of your TAP ideas when they might
take hold in the future, conversely it would
make them more powerful.

Adding to that our time here is
finite, and ultimate abundance
is not in this physical world,
which is what I think Z is saying....
money and freedom do not equate
out to abundance. As you well know
there is abundance apart from money,
as well as apart from an existing money
system. Abundance is not tied to
the physical world. We first must
overcome the physical limitations
finding abundance apart from,
and beyond the here and now.

And I know that you know this,
I am hinting that your
TAP concepts would benefit
from incorporating this
other wordly strength
into your basic plan.
I know your thinking that
yet I would suggest that
you go big with this part,
as it would enhance the
gap that exists between
the existing tech, and your ideas.

Other men have done it, and done it
well and made a success from
this, as some further examples

According to the philosophical point of view of Einstein, Dirac, Bell, Polyakov, 't Hooft and few other theorists, there might be some non-material space filling medium enabling the observed physical processes, an Aether, occupying every point in space. As yet, there is no a corresponding theory.

So Albert Einstein in 1920:" We may say that according to the general theory of relativity space is endowed with physical qualities; in this sense, therefore, there exists an Aether. According to the general theory of relativity space without Aether is unthinkable; for in such space there not only would be no propagation of light, but also no possibility of existence for standards of space and time (measuring-rods and clocks), nor therefore any space-time intervals in the physical sense. But this Aether may not be thought of as endowed with the quality characteristic of ponderable media, as consisting of parts which may be tracked through time. The idea of motion may not be applied to it." [11]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_theories

Again, this is just a thought, taking into account
the input of the others here in which we are
all on "your" side, collaborating with you. 

[robomont]

As a member of ig.i would say it would be a privelege but im smart enough to realize that tap would be harder to create than trying to manage china.it is such a colossus.then to add a timeline of change to  tap.100yrs maybe.for full effect.
I personally like the jules verne idea.i think thats the path that amy should take.plus it would give her time to think out the details more thoroughly .the problem is she may publish a wonderful book but her theory will not see fruit until way after she has passed away.probly make a great read though.

As devils advocate.how many silverspoon trust fund babies do you see being productive citizens in the world.i dont see any.and they are basically living tap.i know one that is a evil mason pervert and another  that is a total fruitcake methhead that let her outside dogs sleep in the same bead as her new born baby.

[sky otter]

dang just lost a whole bunch of type..grrrrrrrr i hate when that happens



Somehow missed this in the barrage of posting.  Maybe You all fail to see the very deep ecstasy I feel in having ideas I know are worthwhile to offer Humanity.  Is it that unclear?

Amy
no that is not unclear..
your passion for your idea stands out like a lighthouse in the storm

and i used terminology that was hurtful..sorry

i do agree with bts
that the back and forth on this forum is not mean but trying to show you how it is taken by others..
and that should be helpful to modifying your approach ..imo

perhaps you should be looking for an agent to do the selling..
i wish i could be more helpful but i have become more hermit like and can only dig up a few places i think that would be interested in your book

you might try these two as they are progressive in their approach to life

http://www.llewellyn.com/

http://www.hayhouse.com/

also if you check out the bio of louise hay you may be able to pick up some pointers on getting your book to the masses..it's an amazing story of a woman from rags to riches by her own talents


good luck

[Amaterasu]

I have been reading this since the start and I think that all Peggy people understand what TAP is all about. It is not the idea I am in question about, it is the turn over of the entire planet that is in question. I think if 100% of the planet knew about this it would not trip. It is not like replacing a dictator or marching on wall street. It is a re-write of every single thing people do. A re-boot of life.

Yes, it is unique.  And that is because it relies on technology that We only NOW in Our history have.  Never before have We had the free energy access, robotics, and the interweb.

And I bet it WOULD trip.  And I will tell You WHY.  Statistically ALL of Us live in poverty, and so, statistically it will help ALL of Us.  If You have a Human who is starving to death who also knows of this approach, I can guarantee They will be for it.  It will mean They will not starve.

How do we do that with out some master detailed plan of events to follow.  I did find another post I made here on the wrong thread and I asked Z to move it, his and your answer also.

Because society is a stigmergy.  The whole idea is to point the direction and show the steps that We can take to get there.  What We do with it from there is where the glory and wonder will emerge from.

And what needs planning (beyond the steps I define)?  Can You give Me a specific?

I talked about backwards planning and plans..Maybe just take one of those and plan it down to a "T" to see if it could be done. You see, just saying something never gets anything done. The elite are either born into it or they have a great plan to get it.  Without a detailed plan it is just winging it and people will drop you very fast. Just another 2012 thingy..

Just saying something does not get it done, BUT...  If everyOne knows the goals and most approve (and most who understand will), Those that CAN do something will.  Other things will happen as a matter of course:  add free energy and fill all necessary jobs no One wants to do with robots, and the need for money will dissipate, vanishing when it gets to the point that the accounting efforts are more than the accounted for is "worth."  When it becomes like accounting for grains of sand:  pointless.

If they have something to sink their teeth into you will suceed.......Sheep need a tender. In this field I think most of us are sheep. Since this would be harder than going to the moon, the plan needs to be even better than what ever they had...

Hahaha.  It is DIFFERENT entirely.  There is no specific technical elements needed (just general robots and free energy, the specifics of which are up to Those examining the need and devising the extraction methods).

Peggy people are not your targets for awareness, they should be the targets for figuring out the details and giving you ideas for the plan, like we do in the IG. Your a member there, I hope you can see how it works and why we all love it. We work together.....a KEY !

Do remember I offer information through twitter with links here.  It's not JUST Peggy I write for.  And I tell You what, if You can offer a problem that You see that needs a "deeper plan," describe it to Me.  I cannot see anything We need to CONTROL.  That, in fact, is the whole point:  letting go of control.

I think if you present it like a flow chart and list the questions and ask for fixes you will get a better responces. People love to help. We will tap you with our knowledge of the world. Plant the idea and let it grow. If it is worthwhile, it will grow.  Don't ever under estimate the power of this group to come up with answers. Many will go out to their other sites and ask there for you. And do research for FREE to assist you. Ask away, you get fruit, State away, you get stoned.  Simple logic...

Well, I have a flowchart, but it's astoundingly simple.  In fact, I suspect the simplicity is what freaks People out.  They are so used to things being complex.  In truth, the complexity was added on purpose to keep Us from seeing how simple it all really is.

Maybe that's why You think more needs to be added...  Make it more difficult and confusing than it needs to be.

In all my few years of forums, I have never been stoned to death for asking a question. Stating a fact or opinion, YES...We all have been stoned from time to time. Ouch !

Think this way, you are in our future living in a perfect TAP life and you are telling me how your world overcame every problem to get there. Figure out what the problems are and ask how to fix them.

I did that in The Abundance Paradigm...

What is my world going to look like when you tell me my story 

Deuem

Read The Abundance Paradigm:  http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/aad67f70b7b43ddc.pdf

[Somamech]

Amy I do like your Idea's!

I think a very good example of the monetary system would be Housing Bubble's.  Oddly Australian's are in one and cannot see the rose through the thorns. 

As you know socitey put's way too much value on housing compared to investing in ideas which create housing.

Here in Ozzie Land the Banks have locked up a generation of wealth generation that could otherwise go into other project's.

Whoever started Kickstarter and crowdfunding had a great idea.  I do find these day's that it's being abused to some extent but the essence of people investing in other people's ideas to be a foot placed in the right direction.   

Although The Sea Shepherd may not be everyones cup of tea this video about changing the world is woprth watching no matter what one believes in.  It's stated in this video that you only need a small percentage of people to make a change

[zorgon]

In a nut shell....

You say "Make people aware"

Well everyone at Pegasus IS aware of your program and ideas. Most agree that in principal they are good ideas for the future.

So your mission is accomplished

No amount of repeating it will change anyone's mind. The questions being asked are all about the method of implementation... and you yourself admit you cannot answer that... that it will "just happen"

The issues I see...

ROBOTS

Many of us are not to keen on letting robots do that much for us... many believe that being human REQUIRES we work hard to gain personal advancement. You do not accept that there is more to life beyond this plane... so you make your case based on that belief.

I for one KNOW there is life beyond this one so I govern my life and actions accordingly. For this reason we will not see eye to eye on this plan in all details

You can be against religion all you wish, but if you don't take human nature into account, you will not prevail. Religion is control mechanism but a personal spiritual belief based on personal experience is NOT  You cannot fight that nor change that. The Communists tried and failed too.

Too many great minds have deal with the Robot scenario and how easily and quickly THEY become the new masters... and this is in the back of people's mind.  Yes the BOTS ARE COMING... that is already written in stone...  question is will we be their slaves (even if that slavery is simply sloth and apathy)

FREE ENERGY

Your whole thesis rides on this... abundant FREE ENERGY

You and many others claim 'da gubment' is with holding such technology...  maybe... maybe not.

Personally beyond solar power I don't believe THEY have it.  Despite all the inventors out there making claims, despite all the inventors at Pegasus working on a solution...  in my opinion NO ONE has yet broken through

If they had, the Military would be using these power sources.  But they are not. All their money is going into making solar collectors, laser power transmission and plasma sources.

When the atomic energy came out... before "we the people" even heard about it... they were building bombs with it and wasted no time using a few.

MIT is just now re discovering wireless power transmission (other than via lasers which the Navy already has strong enough to beam power to a moon base)

"Da gubment" suppressing it? Then why has John Searl not been assassinated yet? There are HUNDREDS of researches all around the world working on it... they are all alive...  but not one of them has a device that can be proven to work and be replicated.

"Da gubment" is not that efficient... they can't even manage the current budget and health care. NASA is a Comedy Circus. The NAVY is testing tons of new weapons and power sources... but all plasma related. The big labs Sandia, Los Alamos, LLNL, NRL ARL... ALL working on plasma and nuclear fusion

With the internet global system... if there WAS a true working device that would fall under "Free energy" it would be virtually impossible to stop it going viral

So until such a device IS created... we are stuck in THIS paradigm and most of us will have to make do best we can.

But we already HAVE the AWARENESS your selling 

[The Matrix Traveller]

Can't be more correct, than what you have said here Z regarding

"Da gubment"

And yes Death is nothing more than a Human Myth !

It is Impossible for our "Real Self" to Die, even IF we wanted to....   

It is only the human primate which desires Death...   

[deuem]

I will ask the Robot question since it is a fear and not a blessing. Those who know will tell you over and over that if we take that step and create walkable human type robots, then at some time in the future they will become self aware and it is all over for us. I don't know one could stop it.

Engineers like to tinker and make things better. Scientist are now clonning everthing they can get their hands on. How long before A finds B and they clone brains for robots. The brain is still the best computer on the planet but they are catching up.

OK what is your version on this and what does Earth need to do to get there. Go 1st person.

Deuem