Yes, Mars Anomalies

[ArMaP]

I need the link to Nasa if you have it.

Unfortunately, just the NASA link is not enough, to see the original images from Curiosity you need Linux and you need to compile the source code they supply to make a program that converts the images from DAT to IMG.

PS: Is there any file hosting site from which you get good download speeds?

[Amaterasu]

I suppose it should be this one.

Wow.  How did You do that???  I see the ~original in the code...

[Amaterasu]

Ok, I am officaly lost here. With so many photos that are so large my internet connection is boiling over. It must be nice to click a page and get it instant. I have to wait and wait or even re-boot for each page. When a conversation goe back several pages. I have to forget it and move on.  Maybe 1 thread, 1 Mars photo and nothing else would be the best.

Doing a moving collection with such large photos is killing me and I can't do it from here. Sorry, Deuem And ArMaP I can not get such a large photo out of your image bucket. I need the link to Nasa if you have it. I have no idea about a stripped rock. And how shadows refect light back to the camera is in question also. The only light in a shadow is reflective to begin with. I think we need another term there. Reflective reflective is too long.

Since all light that a camera picks up is either dirrect or reflective, shadows and shade need to be defined better. It has to be a double bounce or more.  In some areas the shaded areas, not the shadows have a lot of detail yet others seem bland or blured.
Deuem

I put the link I got the pic from in the original posing with the 1/2 size image:  http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/mer/images/Bonestell_1772A_L456atc.html

[deuem]

Ok.



Now am I supost to guess where it is your talking about. Can't you take a photo like this and stroke the area and maybe add an arrow.

I would think that most guests reading this post would have just dropped off by now. Nobody likes to re-research things if you had your hands on them. It is a waste of re-research time by many. When it would have been moments for you. Take a snap shot if you can't get the original.. Anything to bring your case home.

Now where is it in that photo?

[deuem]

By the way for some of us in the other world, any photo presented that is larger than 680 or so drives us crazy and most of the time won't show. A click to enlarge or click to link works very well. Other wise they show as blanks with a small red X. It then takes either half an hour to load or several re-boots of the thread or even computer.


I think 700pixels wide are the forum rules. There is a reason for that....

Deuem

[Amaterasu]

Ok.



Now am I supost to guess where it is your talking about. Can't you take a photo like this and stroke the area and maybe add an arrow.

I would think that most guests reading this post would have just dropped off by now. Nobody likes to re-research things if you had your hands on them. It is a waste of re-research time by many. When it would have been moments for you. Take a snap shot if you can't get the original.. Anything to bring your case home.

Now where is it in that photo?

About 1/3rd of the way from the left, slightly above center.

[deuem]

Is the right section? Now where?




I did like the area on the top where I found Deuems Arch. It looks like you can see right through it to the mountains behind. A stair case to the top and a padio below Maybe a cave entrance to the right and an area in front that might be a lava tube or a small bridge that is leaning over. ?

Deuem is going to set up sight seeing visits to our new Arch. lol

[ArMaP]

Wow.  How did You do that???  I see the ~original in the code...

I looked at your Photobucket images.

Now, three things about that image:
1 - Where did you got the white balanced image?
2 - Getting that TIFF is good, but we don't know if the panorama was made from JPEGs or not.
3 - The rock doesn't look freshly broken, it doesn't have the patina but it is covered with dust.

[ArMaP]

About the "stripes" rock, what I think it shows is something similar to what can be seen in the image below, but with more contrast between the dark and bright areas.

[deuem]

Many rocks have white stripes. i have one on my desk. How many do you want. What color strips do you need, I'll look.



I think I'll go amuse myself and make a rock flower from this one.

later, Deuem

[ArMaP]

Many rocks have white stripes. i have one on my desk. How many do you want. What color strips do you need, I'll look.

That's a nice rock, but I don't think the rock in the photo from Mars has stripes like that one, and I think that rock is a different type of rock, as it looks to me like a metamorphic rock, while most rock on Mars (including the one with the "stripes" look like sedimentary rocks.

But zorgon is the best person to comment on that.

[Amaterasu]

Many rocks have white stripes. i have one on my desk. How many do you want. What color strips do you need, I'll look.



I think I'll go amuse myself and make a rock flower from this one.

later, Deuem

Yes, many DO have stripes BUT...

As You may notice, they go ALL THE WAY THROUGH.  They don't stop - with a second one the same width also stopping - mid-rock.

Also, along the limned edge, One can make out what could be either natural striations, or perhaps a paint job in more muted tones.

I looked at your Photobucket images.

Now, three things about that image:
1 - Where did you got the white balanced image?
2 - Getting that TIFF is good, but we don't know if the panorama was made from JPEGs or not.
3 - The rock doesn't look freshly broken, it doesn't have the patina but it is covered with dust.

1. The processed images were ones I did auto-levels on.  Same as the image at the top with the yellow lines, only at 100% size.

2.  Guess We can say that of ALL the images We see from NASA

3.  I see fresh broken surface.  Whatever, eh?

[deuem]

I know this turning kind of funny but to answer your question, In the same location where I got this rock there are many that have scattered connecting white lines just like this. Some in the shape of  "Y" just like you wrote. The one I am thinking about is still very huge and I can't even budge it but next time I shall get a photo. There are all types of rocks there, Z would be busy for several trips. I have a photo of one that I think is Iron ore. It is as heavy as iron and a dark red in color like deep rust.

The collection area for rocks is in the river bed from millions of years or 1 good flood. With out an ice age or flood, stones of size are rather hard to move on their own. Some are the size of VWs and others are pebbles. Some of these boulders had to come from several miles away up to maybe 20 miles. The closer mountains are yellow. Further away you find more of the colorful rocks. What I am getting to is how did the mars rocks get to that location. Blown out of a crater? Ice flows or rapid rivers.

ArMaP, Can you place a location of the rover when it took a photo in Google Mars. I think the cooridants were in that list you gave me. Stay on the lizard photo. I need the map and also any better topo maps we can find to put it together. It would be nice if we could put a size on these photos. At least try.

Deuem

[Amaterasu]

I was prowling this panorama (yes, probably jpg, but what I found is irrelevant to what format it arrives in, and yes, I have no way to show WHERE in the image(s) it is, but that is not the point, either): http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/03/4-billion-pixel-mars-panorama/

And came upon this image:



I looked at it and saw a "rock" that lay mostly left to right and saw that in the middle (well, more to left than right) was...

The Clone Circle.  Can You see it in that image?

Here is the processed image with the circular area defined by selecting it with a circle in photoshop (round marquis tool with "shift" and "alt" pressed).  A circle fits perfectly - something never seen in nature.

Now I want to know what that elongated "rock" really looks like!

[ArMaP]

ArMaP, Can you place a location of the rover when it took a photo in Google Mars. I think the cooridants were in that list you gave me. Stay on the lizard photo. I need the map and also any better topo maps we can find to put it together. It would be nice if we could put a size on these photos. At least try.

Just give me some time to try to fix my leaking dish-washing machine.