alaska climate change in pics..WOW

[sky otter]

ok this was a toss up of where to put it
either here or under endanged earth..
but since i'm not totally convinced tht we little peoples could do these changes..
i am sticking it here 




you will have to go to the link to see the comparisons in then and now..they are entire page and i can't copy them..sorry




http://www.weather.com/news/science/environment/alaskas-glaciers-capturing-earth-changing-our-eyes-20131125


Environment
Bruce Molnia's Repeat Photos of Alaska, and What He Says They Reveal About Our World
By Terrell Johnson Published: Nov 29, 2013, 8:54 AM EST weather.com


Photographing Alaska's stunning landscapes has been a passion of Bruce Molnia's since the first time he visited the 49th state, as a Cornell University graduate student in the late 1960s.

While studying for his Ph.D. in geology – which would later lead him to a storied career with the U.S. Geological Survey in coastal, glacial, and ocean research – he came across the photos taken by the earliest American explorers of Alaska back in the early 1880s.

It was these photos – taken by everyone from John Muir in 1879 to later explorers like William Field and National Geographic's Bradford Washburn – that Molnia would use when he was asked in 1999 by then-Interior Secretary Bruce Babbit to find "unequivocal, unambiguous" proof that climate change was real.


Since his first visit in 1969, Molnia has returned to Alaska "probably 300 times," he says. On nearly every visit, he has made expeditions of his own to recreate the photos taken by Muir and others, from their exact same vantage points.

Molnia spoke with weather.com about the work he's done over the last 14 years, and what it means to our understanding of how Earth's climate is changing today. The stories and thoughts below were captured during our conversation with him:

I started out with wow, look how the glaciers are changing. But it became pretty clear after the first or second year of doing this, that it wasn't only the glaciers you could document changing. To me, the most remarkable thing was how quickly ecosystems became established in areas where the early photograph shows nothing but bare bedrock.

This all began in September 2000, when I spent a week with a team of four people in Prince William Sound. We visited about 15 locations where I had found historical photos from the early decades of the 20th century.

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This was before we had Google Earth to help us. Some of [the photos] I knew were going to be impossible to attempt to duplicate because of the locations, and others because when I had been in those general areas, the vegetation was so dense that I knew you would never be able to see from that original photo point.

But many of them were [taken] standing on the shoreline, or from the top of a ridge. So that was my premise: Finding sites where there was a good enough image that you cold then look at a map and figure out which peak on the map was which peak on the photo, and where the photo might have been taken from.

That was what prompted me to think, I have enough historical images that I could do this. To me, understanding the obvious – the photographic pairs – was the best mechanism to present irrefutable, non-judgmental, unambiguous, unequivocal visual documentation that climate change was both real and underway.

There are so many late 19th-century photos because of John Muir. Once he publicized it, steamers started making their way up to coastal Alaska. This corresponded to a time when Eastman-Kodak was making available handheld cameras that people could take with them that were pre-loaded with up to 100 exposures.




In the photo pairs, the landscape goes from black and white, to blue and green. I have a photo that was taken in 1941 of the Muir Glacier. We went back in 2004 and the vegetation was so dense I couldn't get my field assistants out onto this bedrock ridge that is in the foreground of this picture.

In the photographer's notes for the photo, he said you go to this particular creek, you walk up the creek, you walk up this rise ... and you'll be there in 15 minutes. We went to the creek, and the alder was so dense that you were literally pushing each branch out of the way and stepping over them to be able just to go up in the stream bed.

It took us almost six hours to get from where we started, which was probably a distance of less than two miles. Because the vegetation was so dense, you couldn't even see the sky.

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To understand climate change, we have to look at what climate's done for the last 1,000 years. Beginning about 900 years ago, we experienced a global cooling event that triggered the Little Ice Age. In Alaska, glaciers expanded dramatically, and many glaciers filled fjords.

At the peak of the Little Ice Age, there were probably 200 ice-calving [glaciers] in Alaska. Since then, we have seen more than 99 percent of the more than 2,000 glaciers in Alaska begin to actively retreat, and continue to retreat up to the present. We've gone from over 200 tidewater-calving glaciers to less than 50.

About a dozen years ago, someone caught a marlin off the coast of southeastern Alaska. How could that be? The fishermen tell me that in Prince William Sound, for years now, they have seen a major influx of sand sharks and other species that were not native and are out-competing the fishermen for bottom fish, like halibut - and for crab. And so the ecosystem is rapidly changing.

The simplicity of the photos is so striking. My basic premise is, if a picture's worth a thousand words, what's a pair of photos showing dramatic change worth? And that clearly is the message I'm trying to convey.

See more at USGS: Glacier and Landscape Change in Response to Changing Climate

[burntheships]

Sky,

Well, it is interesting that you mention it,
I have a stash of articles on this somewhere,
and I am fairly certain from what I have read
that this is at least partly due to climate
manipulation on the part of the MIC...
been going on for a while.

I'll be back...

Ok, back. Here is a bit of info, I know I had found
the operational name a while back, I need
to consult with Z to remember it.

In the mean time....
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2013/11/18/navy-sees-opportunity-risk-in-thawing-arctic.html

US Congress, Senate, Committee on Inter-State and Foreign Commerce, Weather Modification Research, Hearing, Washington D.C. US Govt. Printing Offlce, March 18-19, 1958; Lowell Ponte quotes Capt. Orville as reporting "that the Dept. of Defense was studying ways to manipulate the charges of earth and sky and so affect the weather by means of  an electronic beams to ionize or de-ionize the atmosphere over a given area" .... Capt. Orville also discussed ongoing US Air Force  experiments with 'sodium vapor, ejected from jet planes to intercept solar radiation ' over enemy countries and rain their weather. (The Cooling, op. cit. pp. 168-169  Source  P. 42

Back again, the name of the DARPA program that is
overseeeing this is Assured Arctic Awareness.

Its supposed to be kind of a hushed program,
apparently the global image is already tarnished.



http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/09/arctic-sensors/

[Amaterasu]

It can't be both ways.  Some People are reporting that the ice cap grew, and now here's this claiming it hit a record low. 

We've heard the background to this story before. As the planet heats up due to global warming, the Arctic ice cap could melt to the point where the summer season becomes nearly without ice coverage. (By the way, this summer's loss of Arctic ice hit a new record.) Putting aside the staggering environmental consequences, that's good for companies that want to use new Arctic shipping routes, and it gives an opening for energy companies zeroing in on the Arctic's deposits of oil and natural gas.

(BTS's link: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/09/arctic-sensors/ )

[burntheships]

It can't be both ways.  Some People are reporting that the ice cap grew, and now here's this claiming it hit a record low. 

(BTS's link: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/09/arctic-sensors/ )

Indeed Amy,

Well I can only say...they have been at this for a while
from the looks of this:

http://chemtrailsplanet.net/2013/01/03/government-documents-link-global-warming-to-advanced-military-climate-modification-technology-2/

The above link, yes from chemtrails planet ( lol there wont
be the usual pile on of rabid debunkers here ) is pretty
darn accurate. I have spent hours researching various
claims found there in the link and indeed many of the
documents are to be found. Not so easliy, but enough
to where I finally upturned the Assured Arctic Awareness.

I think it is safe to say that Global Warming
is the bogeyman, and that we are in control
of the bogeman....its a scam both ways.

[Amaterasu]

I had heard rumors that They had such tech as this a fair while ago, and so I'm not greatly surprised.

And I LOVE what AAA stands for.  Yyyyyeah.

[burntheships]

And I LOVE what AAA stands for.  Yyyyyeah.

Funny, they really probably know they are addicts too