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Started by COSMO, January 18, 2014, 11:48:08 AM

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ArMaP

Quote from: go2toa on January 23, 2014, 04:08:52 AM
US Navy Seal Duplicate (Swastika)
23 deg 17' 0" N
143 deg 15' 36" E

..and 1.25 km away..

Large Building (Warehouse?)
23 deg 18' 30" N
143 deg 13' 27" E
Thanks, I will take a look. :)

QuoteIf you do use Google Moon someday and visit the crater, really study it; it's a crazy town with a lot going on.
I do use Google Moon (and Mars), but mostly because it's easier to use to get the coordinates of some place, then I use those coordinates to look for the original photos, regardless of the mission being old or new.

QuoteThose converging spheres reflecting light I mentioned a couple weeks ago...(making people think they are lights)?  That actually started this thread.  Where are they?  This crater.
Those spheres look, to me, like an image processing artefact, similar to the squares that appear on JPEG images when they are too compressed. The images on Google Moon look slightly different from what they used to look, that's why I think they changed something in the conversion process they use to make the "tiles" used to make the whole images.

ArMaP

Quote from: go2toa on January 23, 2014, 05:37:14 AM
They do both: have good data and fool people.
I know, what I said was that they prefer to fool people than have good data, meaning that, when they do not have good data they prefer to fool people into thinking that they have, like when you make a search and it tells you that it found four thousand pages, but you keep on moving through all the results and see that they found only three hundreds.

QuoteI haven't dismissed the possibility of them putting easter eggs on moon or mars pictures.
I don't think those are "easter eggs", just faster or cheaper ways of doing things.

QuoteIf hi res images don't match google's unnatural structures, 1-those images should show boring landscape that imply the structures, or 2-google should confess they put up easter eggs.
As Google doesn't have any satellites orbiting the Moon (as far as I know) they have to rely on other sources, the same sources that we have, so the images should look exactly the same, but they do not. In the beginning the differences only appeared when we chose to see compressed images, but that option now only applies to the 3D textures, and now I start to see differences (like the white spheres) that look like artefacts from a different compression (some look like the result of the lossy compression used in JPEG 2000 images).

QuoteIn the absence of conditions 1 or 2, it's not worth the time to debate imo.
I think it is if we want to know what the good sources are, using garbage to try to understand things is not good (unless we want to understand garbage ;) ).

QuoteA bridge that crosses a crater is taken down at the time of the later photo, etc.
A bridge that crosses a crater may be taken down at the time of a later photo, but that's not what's happening in this case.

rdunk

I am posting a more detailed article on this that indicates this "Moon object" has been known about for some time, like for 2 years at least, and before it reached the Moon. Quite frankly, as I read this, I didn't know it was about the same thing, until near the end of the piece. Very interesting. Hopefully it has a basis of reality!! :)


http://www.in5d.com/enormous-craft-detected-on-moon.html

ArMaP

Quote from: rdunk on January 23, 2014, 06:03:36 PM
Very interesting. Hopefully it has a basis of reality!! :)
Judging by this, I doubt it.

QuoteThose images are classified, but quite by accident, low-resolution images from LROC made it out to the public via routine LROC publication. Here now, the low-resolution images of an enormous object, which was tracked by the U.S. Government for millions of miles before it soft-landed on our moon:
There are high resolution photos available, the image I posted on page 1 is from a high resolution (1 metre per pixel) photo. That photo was taken in December 2009 and the file has a server time stamp from September 10, 2013.

rdunk

There are high resolution photos available, the image I posted on page 1 is from a high resolution (1 metre per pixel) photo. That photo was taken in December 2009 and the file has a server time stamp from September 10, 2013.

Not sure how a 2009 photo might relate to this story, other than show it wasn't there in 2009?

sky otter



while i have no comment on this..cause i know nothing
i did come across this and thought some of you guys might be interested

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-alien-base-on-the-moon-triangle-of-dots-photo-artifact.2965/

ArMaP

Quote from: rdunk on January 24, 2014, 03:39:48 AM
Not sure how a 2009 photo might relate to this story, other than show it wasn't there in 2009?
Now I'm not sure either. ;D

They say that the "leaked" photos are the ones on Google Moon, but that image has a JAXA copyright and points to a JAXA video of that area, computer generated, in 3D.

The image I posted on page 1 was taken from the LROC high resolution image from 2009, and although it doesn't show the bright points it shows the other features.

Anyway, I don't have much trust for any news with just one source, specially when that source sounds like Sorcha Faal.

go2toa

ArMap, what  imagery did you find at the coordinates?

ArMaP

Quote from: go2toa on June 23, 2015, 07:19:05 AM
ArMap, what  imagery did you find at the coordinates?
I don't remember, I have to check. :)

go2toa



I don't believe you can go up and see these anymore.  I suspect it was taken down before the Indian/Chinese/Japanese programs reached the area. 

Still, it would be interesting to see a photo of the area say 30 years back.

If blatant mining on the moon was "okay" for whomever is there, the front side of the moon would have ongoing activity, and you could simply go to an astronomy club and get a kick out of spotting straight lines.  I asked local club members if anyone ever saw a straight line, ever, in the history of the club.  They said no. 

If we were welcome to mine the moon of helium 3 alongside these guys, we would have been doing it, since it's more precious than gold and we already did the research how to safely go there and back.  It's in the news once in awhile.  You hear a newsclip or documentary saying, maybe we should collect helium 3.  What a new, fresh idea!

This crater has many, many squares and rectangles which are possibly large pixelations, but it's worth nothing these digital artifacts that look like buildings disappear outside the crater, and some structures (like the ones pictured) are well over 100 feet in length.  Many (like the warehouse) have platforms, walkways surrounding them.  A few look like T-hangars.



zorgon


zorgon

After World War II, rumors circulated that German astronauts had traveled to the moon and established a top-secret facility there. Some even speculated that Adolf Hitler faked his own death, fled the planet and lived out the rest of his days in an underground lunar hideout. Connections were also drawn between flying saucer sightings—including the famous incident near Roswell, New Mexico, in 1947—with the Nazis' alleged UFO development program. These theories form the basis of the science fiction novel "Rocket Ship Galileo," published by Robert A. Heinlein in 1947.




zorgon

You can get good info from LEGO


They made a kit... NAZI base on the Moon



LEGO even made a really COOL Lego Robot for the kids on Mars Colony... here being tested by Russian Cosmonaut Talgat Musabayev on the ISS



Lego has just released their new toy in their "Life on Mar" Series. Here Cosmonaut and Soyuz Commander Talgat Musabayev tests one out in Zero G. I am told these are very popular with the kids on Mars.

"The Lego Company, being active in the non space area, in co-operation with Intospace, a space industry service provider, developed a space education project aimed at developing, launching and operating a Lego Robot on the Space Station. This series is a highly sophisticated assembly set with programmable microchips and advanced reaction systems such as light-, touch or rotational sensors. The space environment of the ISS was perceived as the right scenario for this hi-tech project."
Source - Smithsonian

PEGASUS NOTE: This Lego Robot does not sound like a toy! In fact the Smithsonian Report above states - "Therefore a public competition was announced to create attention offering interested people to participate in developing a robot that will be in the condition to support the ISS crew during their daily routine work."

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/03files/Shopping_Mall.html

ArMaP

Quote from: go2toa on June 24, 2015, 01:59:42 AM
I don't believe you can go up and see these anymore.  I suspect it was taken down before the Indian/Chinese/Japanese programs reached the area.
On Google Moon? They're still there.

QuoteStill, it would be interesting to see a photo of the area say 30 years back.
I will try to find them, today is a local holiday, so I have the whole day for this. :D

QuoteThis crater has many, many squares and rectangles which are possibly large pixelations, but it's worth nothing these digital artifacts that look like buildings disappear outside the crater, and some structures (like the ones pictured) are well over 100 feet in length.  Many (like the warehouse) have platforms, walkways surrounding them.  A few look like T-hangars.
That whole Mare Moscoviense photo is full of those artefacts, that, I think, are denoising artefacts like those seen in the image below.


I'm still trying to find the original photo used by Google.

ArMaP

Quote from: zorgon on June 24, 2015, 09:03:31 AM
That looks terribly fake, the swastika doesn't look like the rest of the image.