The World Is Building Up To Something

[WarToad]

Completely agree.  Gold, amigo.

[robomont]

Ban hammers and sex too.

[Amaterasu]

Saying "money is evil" is like saying "guns kill"! 

I have NEVER said that MONEY is evil.  As the bible says, it is the soil in which the root of evil grows.  As long as We continue with the soil that root grows in, We WILL see evil growing.  That is why I advocate removing the SOIL such that the root dies.

[Amaterasu]

I just wish a few others would too...   

Me too!  What amazes Me is that so many would DEFEND the retention of money - as if things would get worse removing the soil in which the root of evil grows.  Baffles Me, frankly.

[WarToad]

I defend the retention of money, simply because your "everything is free" idea makes no sense whatsoever.  "Baffeling". When I make something, I expect to be paid for it.  It is not free.

[Amaterasu]

I defend the retention of money, simply because your "everything is free" idea makes no sense whatsoever.  "Baffeling". When I make something, I expect to be paid for it.  It is not free.

Then You clearly do not grasp what I offer.  [shrug]  If robots provide food (high quality), clothing (high quality), shelter (whatever You want), and You had no need to work at all...wouldn't You do what You love to do for the social currency?  For Self satisfaction?  For the appreciation You get from Others?  For friendships You develop?  For fame (if You're into that)?  For lauds and love and other positive responses from Others?

In defending a system of money, You defend poverty, oppression, wage/debt slavery and profiteering, including war, prisons, pharma, medical, food, water, air profiteering.  In other words, You defend the soil in which evil grows.

[WarToad]

I've no interest in social currency.  I work pretty well with real currency. 

[sky otter]

In defending a system of money, You defend poverty, oppression, wage/debt slavery and profiteering, including war, prisons, pharma, medical, food, water, air profiteering.  In other words, You defend the soil in which evil grows.

if you truly believe this then you are more than just pushing your idea of utopia
you are totally Delusional
with a huge case of monetary envy

[rdunk]

Then You clearly do not grasp what I offer.  [shrug]  If robots provide food (high quality), clothing (high quality), shelter (whatever You want), and You had no need to work at all...wouldn't You do what You love to do for the social currency?  For Self satisfaction?  For the appreciation You get from Others?  For friendships You develop?  For fame (if You're into that)?  For lauds and love and other positive responses from Others?

In defending a system of money, You defend poverty, oppression, wage/debt slavery and profiteering, including war, prisons, pharma, medical, food, water, air profiteering.  In other words, You defend the soil in which evil grows.

As you know, I too totally disagree with what you propose. Making money the crutch of causing all of the evil in the world is nonsense. There is evil in the world, but it ain't money! As you point out, evil grows into every aspect of life, including religious aspects, given the opportunity. So, with or without money it won't make a shill of difference to the existence of evil in the life of man, other than without money, man will be "broke" as the evil operates.

[Amaterasu]

I've no interest in social currency.  I work pretty well with real currency.

Self satisfaction in doing what You love to do (note "what You LOVE to do") has no motive for You?  Really?  You do NOTHING for the love of it?  Really?  If I believed that I would feel sorry for You.

In defending a system of money, You defend poverty, oppression, wage/debt slavery and profiteering, including war, prisons, pharma, medical, food, water, air profiteering.  In other words, You defend the soil in which evil grows.

if you truly believe this then you are more than just pushing your idea of utopia
you are totally Delusional
with a huge case of monetary envy

Who's pushing for UTOPIA?  I am pushing for a BETTER SYSTEM.  Again, and again and again, I say:  It's NOT "utopia."  It's just a whole lot better than what We have now.

And no, I envy nothing and no One.  I am quite happy with M'self, and would solve for those starving children that buzzards await Their death to feast on.  And there will ALWAYS be starving children as long as We have a system of money.  There will ALWAYS be psychopaths promoted to the top as long as We have a system of money.  There will ALWAYS be scams and defrauds and manufactured problems to offer controlling "solutions" to as long as We have a system of money.

You clearly don't have a CLUE about what motivates Me.  (And though One defending a money system may not REALIZE that those issues are what They defend, it still is defending those issues; those issues inherently emerge from ANY money system.)

[WarToad]

It's not a better system.  It's just your personal fantasy idea of a better system.  And it's broken because it entirely ignores human nature.  But that's OK, it's your fantasy.  Live the dream.

[Amaterasu]

It's not a better system.  It's just your personal fantasy idea of a better system.  And it's broken because it entirely ignores human nature.  But that's OK, it's your fantasy.  Live the dream.

No it does NOT "ignore Human nature."  Virtually ALL of Us, with no pressure to survive, would NOT instigate wars to profit from weapons sales to both sides, would NOT try to sell poisons as "medicine" so as to have "customers for life," would NOT try to take ownership of rain falling on Others' property, would NOT defraud, would NOT hold People up at gunpoint, would NOT make "laws" to profit off Human incarceration, would NOT tell People They need surgery just to make money from the procedure, would NOT "patent" seeds that have genetic alterations and try to corner food production, would NOT spew "carbon credits" to profit off breathing and living.

No fantasy; 50+ years of research, analysis, critical thinking, and a full grasp of Human motivation.

But...  If You think I am wrong, rather than merely claiming I don't take Human nature into account and claiming fantasy as well, please, DESCRIBE the errors, with illustration and examples.

[The Matrix Traveller]

If One could Buy LIFE One would NOT Die !   

Unless one wishes to Die ?

Which one doesn't normally wish to die.

My choice was once Money !


It Changed when I discovered LIFE ! (NOT the flesh)

NOW I choose LIFE !

[The Matrix Traveller]

When One does NOT know the Difference between "flesh" and LIFE,

One is in "Poverty" !

Most of the human Species are in "Poverty" !

[Amaterasu]

As you know, I too totally disagree with what you propose. Making money the crutch of causing all of the evil in the world is nonsense. There is evil in the world, but it ain't money! As you point out, evil grows into every aspect of life, including religious aspects, given the opportunity. So, with or without money it won't make a shill of difference to the existence of evil in the life of man, other than without money, man will be "broke" as the evil operates.

For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.  -- 1 Timothy 6:10

Remove the soil in which that root grows, since We JUST NOW HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY TO DO SO, and We can kill that root.