The World Is Building Up To Something

[Sinny]

My problem is that "forcing" part, nobody should be forced to do any thing

Well, there's different variations of 'force', if I stood in front of your eye's open, I have just forced you to see me, whether you wanted to or not. Nature is a force, as gravity is thought to be. Force is a fact of life.

specially when it means accepting one person's idea over all other persons' ideas blindly

Has she asked you to do that?

acting as if having a thought means having a solution and presenting that idea as being the only one worth working for

Has Amy also stated that?

as it acts as a kind of censorship of ideas

You are trying to censor Amy.

something like "this idea is the only official idea, even if nobody knows if it works or not, so any one thinking about any thing else is obviously wrong or working for the psychopaths".

Seems to me that lot's of people prefer hearing what they like to hear what they actually heard.

[Eighthman]

Thank You, Sinny - for getting back to the idea that started this whole thread!

As for psychopaths, I am skeptical. Why? Because of a Taoist parable about good and bad I never forgot:

A poor old farmer has one valuable possession - a fine stallion. One day, it runs away.

He says, "What is good, what is bad?"

The next day, it returns with three fine mares - but the old farmer repeats, "What is good, what is bad?"

The farmer's son tries to saddle and ride one of the new mares but gets thrown off and breaks his leg.

The old farmer just says, "What is good, what is bad?"

Then a warlord passes thru, seizing young men for his army but cannot take the now-lame son away.

And the farmer just says, "What is good, what is bad?"

Consider this:  JFK is treated as a saint yet he was reckless and ineffective as President in getting his "New Frontier" passed.

Instead, an absolute SOB/Bastard/Crook (LBJ) -who was utterly skillful, got Medicare, the War on Poverty and Civil Rights made into law.

"What is good, what is bad?"

[Sinny]

Sinny, with the worlds population of around 6 billion, 0.02% give us 1.2 Million in that group. Do you think there are that many or did you just tossed out a number.

Thanks, if you have time.
Deuem

I would have said a mixture of both..But you seem to be skeptical, which I accept.

I have read the actual statistics as they were in the 90's, and I can usually recall photographic memory... However In regards to the stats in question, it's likely I'm off.

But I maintain my over-all theory.

[Sinny]

Thank You, Sinny - for getting back to the idea that started this whole thread!

As for psychopaths, I am skeptical.

It's not really my choice of word either, however as it has come to be associated with the people I am also referring to, it will do.

"What is good, what is bad?"

This could be answered very quickly or over complicated, we all know, it's instinct.
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[Norval]

http://ultraculture.org/blog/2013/08/26/watch-a-jaw-dropping-visualization-of-every-protest-since-1979/

Watch the graphic presentation and note the buildup of protest.  This dovetails with a recent analysis on StratRisks about a worldwide loss of confidence in governments.

We're headed towards something big.

the link don't work anymore, , ,

But I agree, governments have failed their people everywhere, and the world IS building up to something. Wonderful. 

[ArMaP]

Well, there's different variations of 'force', if I stood in front of your eye's open, I have just forced you to see me, whether you wanted to or not.

Yes, and I wouldn't like it, I like to look at what I want.

Has she asked you to do that?

I didn't say she did, it's the way she answers other people's opinions that makes me think of that.

Has Amy also stated that?

I didn't say she did, I said "acting", as it's the way she says the things she says.

You are trying to censor Amy.

I don't think so, I am just stating my opinion.

Seems to me that lot's of people prefer hearing what they like to hear what they actually heard.

Sorry, I don't understand that sentence, could you rephrase it? Thanks in advance.

[Amaterasu]

Suuuure.

Seriously, ArMaP.  I have had MANY People say They never thought of the idea of a system without money.  But thinking upon it, They are willing to go there.  So.  Clearly, without an arrow out of the box, most will never go there.

I didn't say that, please don't get away from the truth.

I didn't say You said that.  If You look closely, You will see a QUESTION MARK.  I asked You a QUESTION.  Please pay closer attention before You make allusions to Me lying/"get[ting] away from the truth.

Yes, the first step, and then waiting for other people to do the remaining 99.99% (see, I can also throw percentages at will) of the work. Then you say you are working.

I have a blueprint.  As with any drawing up blueprints, We can hardly expect the blueprint designer to go out and BUILD the building by Themselves.  Geez, ArMaP.

Suuuure.

Whatever.

[ArMaP]

the link don't work anymore, , ,

That's probably because what started as freely available data turned into a copyright (or something like that) issue, so all the data that resulted in that presentation is not available any more.

[Amaterasu]

well hell if i had some fool/excuse me..patron
to keep me i'm sure i would have plenty of time to type up my fantasies too

oh yeah we all know just how much you really want to be employed..we learnt that when you ask for a patron and other things so you could keep on with the generous sharing of betterment of humanity..

we all know that daddy imbued you with the truth of what was to come when you were what..all of 3.. and then stopped talking..but hey..that's better than most of us, huh.!!!
you really got so much info that now you are sharing..

sigh

i really hate to be so bitchin picky mean but i'm really tired of hearing this crap out of a deadbeat user


i have worked and worked hard all my life to make in within the system ..to help any one i could to figure out how to make it in the system and even found out how local government worked so that i could  work to make changes  by using the system already in place


you probably would have a hard time beliving this..but i am thrilled with my life..it hasn't been utopia by any means but i have made the decisions to get me to joy.. everyday..joy
real joy knowing that my choices make or break my dreams and if i need to adjust the dream or the choices..i can no robots..not bullpoop..

joy in nature..joy in knowing people can be flakes or geniuses or both at the same time
joy in working in the dirt to grow stuff
joy in learning .....
it is my choice to find joy in it all..even the not so comfortable things

and i am really really tired of your posing on and on about how no one understands you
you are so tunnel visioned you have missed what everyone here has said back to you

and i have written this rant to you so often and then deleted it..but today..here it is
in your face.. mean as catpoop..

i just put you on my ignore list so i am not annoyed enough to do this again..
cause there is no joy is shouting, stomping on your ego or what comes next

..but there is joy in expressing my pissed off ness

i probably should re-read it..but what the hell


to all other members..sorry  for such an undignified spew

You are like the flat earthers, telling Those who said the world was a globe that They are creating fantasy.  I have no issues with Your life.  Would not have You change a thing.  How many of those who starve on this planet do You think can say that They have joy every day?

[ArMaP]

I didn't say You said that.  If You look closely, You will see a QUESTION MARK.  I asked You a QUESTION.  Please pay closer attention before You make allusions to Me lying/"get[ting] away from the truth.

It's the way you ask the question(s), and it's not the first time this happens.

I say something and you make a question as if I had said something completely different. Those reading your question are influenced to think that I did said what you imply by the way you wrote your question.

Answering your question, although it has no relation to what I said, no, I don't think you (or anyone else) can "build free energy devices, distribute them, build robots and place them in necessary jobs, teach everyone to replace the work "ethic" with the Betterment Ethic, and teach all the children to find Their gifts and develop them".

I have a blueprint.  As with any drawing up blueprints, We can hardly expect the blueprint designer to go out and BUILD the building by Themselves.  Geez, ArMaP.

No, but we can expect that a blueprint has some explanation of how things should be done, instead of just suggesting a "deus ex machina" that solves the complex parts.

Whatever.

I prefer to say "suuuure".

[Amaterasu]

Question regarding this TIPPING POINT that seems to be the big thing blocking the tunnel boring machine...

HOW MANY people based on global population do you figure you need to reach this  TIPPING POINT?

HOW MANY people have you made aware of this now after all these years?

THAT is the question...  Surely you have collected data on how many have been made aware so you can apply it to the required number to reach the  TIPPING POINT

The tipping point has tiers.  If 10% of one group has the idea then it fills that group - whether They agree or not - from there that group spreads the idea into other groups which, when reaching the tipping point, will fill and spread...  And so on.

Stop looking at it as if the whole globe must reach that point, initially.

I am NOT looking for agreement, but DIALOG.  As with many blueprints, improvements can be made as Other minds contemplate the drawing.  Though I think I have a fine blueprint, I am open to ideas to improve it.

[Amaterasu]

At least catpoop is real and natural.

So is the meanness.

[Amaterasu]

It's what I think.
My problem is that "forcing" part, nobody should be forced to do any thing, specially when it means accepting one person's idea over all other persons' ideas blindly.

In My plan, I FORCE no One to do ANYTHING.  Sky can live EXACTLY like She is living now.  Any who want to keep doing what THEY are doing may do so.  But for those who HATE Their job (a HUGE percentage), They will have OPTIONS.  They can make CHOICES They presently DON'T HAVE.  Geez.  It's very clear You don't have a CLUE about what I suggest and base Your thinking on something YOU created, not Me.

Negativity can act in many ways, one of them being acting as if having a thought means having a solution and presenting that idea as being the only one worth working for, as it acts as a kind of censorship of ideas, something like "this idea is the only official idea, even if nobody knows if it works or not, so any one thinking about any thing else is obviously wrong or working for the psychopaths".

Fine, ArMaP.  Give Me another plan, a BETTER one, that solves for poverty, oppression, wage/debt slavery, and profiteering. 

[Amaterasu]

It's the way you ask the question(s), and it's not the first time this happens.

I say something and you make a question as if I had said something completely different. Those reading your question are influenced to think that I did said what you imply by the way you wrote your question.

OR...  It's the way You choose to read it.  Meh.

No, but we can expect that a blueprint has some explanation of how things should be done, instead of just suggesting a "deus ex machina" that solves the complex parts.

Who's suggesting ""deus ex machina" that solves the complex parts?"  I merely have faith in Humanity to move along a better path, and will happily assist as I can.  You seem to think I expect an external "God" to do things.  I do not.  Go back and read My plan, eh? 

I prefer to say "suuuure".

Whatever. 

[sky otter]

I am NOT looking for agreement, but DIALOG. 

false

In My plan, I FORCE no One to do ANYTHING.  Sky can live EXACTLY like She is living now.  Any who want to keep doing what THEY are doing may do so.  But for those who HATE Their job (a HUGE percentage), They will have OPTIONS.  They can make CHOICES They presently DON'T HAVE.  Geez.  It's very clear You don't have a CLUE about what I suggest and base Your thinking on something YOU created, not Me.

they have options now and are not using them..what makes you so arrogant to think robots and no money will make any difference


and perhaps you need to see this statement of yours in the mirror as you hear no one
It's very clear You don't have a CLUE about what I suggest and base Your thinking on something YOU created, not Me.

the only thing that seems to be missing for you in your plan is the robots..you have someone paying your tab (or should i say paying while you play taps with their money)
while you do what you want


that is not mean   that is honest..that is someone else having an opinion and voicing it