Marijuana / Cannabis / Medicine

[Sinny]

I'm confused to, I'm not sure what the debate is.

If the debate is whether driving under the influence is okay.. well no its not.

End of debate,

whats all this hoopla?

[WarToad]

I'm confused to, I'm not sure what the debate is.

If the debate is whether driving under the influence is okay.. well no its not.

End of debate,

whats all this hoopla?

Amaterasu defending her pot use as healthy and completely different from alcohol use in regards to driving.   

[deuem]

Just wondering, would this be right?

Glass of wine = 1 shot = 1 beer = 1 puff

Who smokes and stops at 1 puff, anyone?  Never seen that happen even once.

Ok so times this by say 8 and where are you?  [8 tokes a joint ?]

Some of us can just drink 1 beer/wine with dinner and stop, some can't

So are we judging 1 beer against 8 puffs? Then I drive with the 1 beer car

If 8 beers, then I drive with the 8 puffs car. I think it would be safer.

If it were 1 beer or 1 puff it might be equal.

Am I right or wrong here?

Does pot help in a lot of medical cases, YES, does everyone who smokes have medical problems, maybe 1 to 3%

People like getting high, case closed. It is safer for the body than drinking, I agree. It is very dangerous for most 7-11 stores.

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[WarToad]

My understanding is there can be a fair amount of variation in the THC content among the different breeds of marijuana.  On average I believe it's around 8% now.  I don't however know of anyway or any study showing where 1 ml pure ethol alcohol is equivelent to X mg THC.  Kind of a tough compairison for equivalent quantities.

[robomont]

I drive high all the time.the effects level off .thc content doesnt matter after two days of same type.the receptors in the brain max out.
Only if you smoke regularly will your comments be takin seriously.speculation does not give this plant the honor it deserves.amy knows what i say is true.the rest yall have posted is mostly regurgitated propaganda.
Not trying to be insulting but i feel almost insulted by the ignorance.just as we dont take the msm seriously.
I have 20years of apmost full time experience.averaging a half lb a month.i have my own custom built bong that i engineered.my own style filter screen like no other on the market.i have never been busted for cultivation yet i grow more pot than anybody in east texas and cornered the market in a town of 80,000peeps one time.lol
Or maybe im full of it.my reputation on this site should prove my credibility.

[Norval]

WOW Robo, , grins, and I thought I used to be a heavy toker! Yer pretty much right on with what you say. Those of us that KNOW from experience are still waiting for the idiots to get a viable test of Too High.   

[Amaterasu]

So, there is no discussion with you anymore.  It would be stupid continue. End line for me.

You asked a question.  I answered it.  Geez.  What more do You want?

[Amaterasu]

Amaterasu defending her pot use as healthy and completely different from alcohol use in regards to driving.   

Uh...  Yeah I will defend WITH STUDIES AND MANY OF THEM the use of cannabis by ANYONE.  And the use by EXPERIENCED users while driving based on these MANY studies.

Geez.  Ignore the data and cling to Your views, however erroneous.

[Amaterasu]

Just wondering, would this be right?

Glass of wine = 1 shot = 1 beer = 1 puff

No, and here's why:  the effects are completely different.  One "puff" has no "equivalent."

[WarToad]

Uh...  Yeah I will defend WITH STUDIES AND MANY OF THEM the use of cannabis by ANYONE.  And the use by EXPERIENCED users while driving based on these MANY studies.

Geez.  Ignore the data and cling to Your views, however erroneous.

I'm with RUSSO.  This is a pointless juvenile thread of no value.  Out.

[Amaterasu]

I'm with RUSSO.  This is a pointless juvenile thread of no value.  Out.

Spoken like a true open minded One.

[deuem]

I would like to get back into the percentage of car crashes.

Before I wrote Out of a hundred crashes

49 drunk
25 regular
25 high
1 stupid

Ok, Say the percentages of high and normal are equal and I buy that. Now what happens if

All people stop drunk driving, 50 crashes don't happen,
then we have

25 regular
25 high
1 stupid

Now we remove the high drivers and

25 regular
1 stupid

Reteach all the regular drivers how to drive again, Which they do here if you get in a crash.
and we are then left with stupid.

Stupid wins out in the end but 49+25+25 are turned around.

If you are caught driving here high or drunk you go to jail, don't pass go and lose your licence.
Many sober people now driving watching out for stupid.

By saying that the odds are the same and condoning high driving is accepting the fact to let them crash because the odds are the same? That I don't understand. If drunk driving odds were the same then we should condone them also?

What about a drunk, high, stupid driver? I'm turning around.

Deuem

[Norval]

What about a drunk, high, stupid driver? I'm turning around.

Deuem

, , , and the OP only wanted to discuss the MEDICINAL aspects, , not the ignorant and uninformed aspects of getting "high" on your medicine.

sheeeeeeeeesssssssshhhhhh peeps, , its a freakin PLANT !   

[robomont]

Your theory on stats is wrong.stupid beats out all at probly 75% alchohol24% health issues like heart attack and stroke1% pot would be maybe .01%.yea i know thats 100.01 percent.lol.
Stupid would include animals in road which is really high around here.been here 13years.one mule.one bobcat.twenty wild pigs.five deer.one bull.and thats just my friends and acquaintences.i bet its twenty times that or more .then the illegals are about fifty percent because they dont know how to drive on wet or frozen roads.pot smokers drive slower than average and do better on driving skills test.there are videos of it out there using professional race car drivers.

The true fact is there are a group of people out there that no amount of evidence would work because it goes against the financial interest of the police state.legalization without taxation woul literally bankrupts some county sheriffs departments.they are dependent upon the drug money.basically junkies for money.

[deuem]

Yes it is a plant and in the right hands a very effective one that grows in nature that will help cure a lot of mans problems. I think that has been proven by many and faught by prama. they are loosing that battle.

The thread took a turn when the qustion was posed rather it is safe to be on this med and drive or operate machinery. No different than if one was on codine, what should they do or not do is where the thread went. All meds react different on different people. How should the world act on this one?There is a DUI law, should there be a HUI law or should the world let people out there high as a kite with 2 ton tanks running over people.

Yes there are some people that can drive better when high and some people that can drive while drunk. But what about the ones that can't. Do you want your loved one run over by someone that is on this med and so high they can't focus on the street. oops and it is accepted. I have seen some people so stoned they can't even find their car let alone drive it. Drunk the same.

To use these as meds is Ok with me. But most people want to just get high and have fun, no medical problems at all. Where do you draw the line or do you have no line and all is open?

Ever play clap clap slap in a bar with friends. Now try it when high. You will lose all the time.

Deuem