Marijuana / Cannabis / Medicine

[robomont]

I cant believe we are diff on this one deuem.how many times you ever been high on pot.? you really cant drive on it.i know nobody that actually gets that stoned.only on tv which exagerates the effects.it can makes sleepy but we dont arrest people for being sleepy and driving even though alot of highway accidents are for just that reason.probly ten percent.

[deuem]

I cant believe we are diff on this one deuem.how many times you ever been high on pot.? you really cant drive on it.i know nobody that actually gets that stoned.only on tv which exagerates the effects.it can makes sleepy but we dont arrest people for being sleepy and driving even though alot of highway accidents are for just that reason.probly ten percent.

As you know there is nothing here to try and the people that bring it in are never heard of again so the laws are pretty tough on it. I know people can drive on it. It all depends on who those people are. If someone smokes all the time it would be a lot better for them. If a never smoked before person lights up a really good J and then tries to drive they will have problems.

I am not against what you do in any manner and maybe some day I will visit you and we can practice driving. Do you have a 7-11? If so, we are on. I am not against the use of any natural plant for meds. They are here to use when needed.

The only question is rather socity should regulate at all what is normal when you are in socity. I have been in some countries where all people just pee on the street and other countries where you would get arrested for that. This is one of those cases. What should be accepted and what should not.

The percentages were not based on anything Robo, just for talking. And I also think stupid would win that race.

Deuem

[Sinny]

I'd like to conclude, following from my previous post.

Driving under the influence should be against the law, this is to eliminate variables and increase safety for all, much like Buchanans theory of traffic segregation.

Having said that, rules are there to be broken, much like Mondermans 'Shared Space' concepts, humans will inevitably have to interact and negotiate when there are no prescribe rules (or rules that are broken), personally 50% of the drivers I know break these rules..Some can without much worry, others can't and are dangerous.

Attempting to implement my Uni studies   

[ArMaP]

The percentages were not based on anything Robo, just for talking.

Unfortunately, you are the only one that admits it.

[robomont]

I can admit the figures are made up guessimations if yall will admit americans come from a better position to know since we travel on average way more  miles from less congested roads.so have way more driving experience.so should know better what it takes to be a capable driver.

[ArMaP]

I can admit the figures are made up guessimations if yall will admit americans come from a better position to know since we travel on average way more  miles from less congested roads.so have way more driving experience.so should know better what it takes to be a capable driver.

That's not admitting, that's blackmail. 

[deuem]

I can admit the figures are made up guessimations if yall will admit americans come from a better position to know since we travel on average way more  miles from less congested roads.so have way more driving experience.so should know better what it takes to be a capable driver.

You should see the new highways here, most of them were designed by students that were educated in the USA. They are fantastic to drive. At night they light up somehow and you can almost drive with out your lights on. If I click on my high beams I can see for miles.

Being a capable driver relates to what training you have had and a certain amount of intelligence. Stupid drivers are all over the world. Even here [at the moment we have more than our share] I think that driving on conjested roads is more taxing on myself. I have told my wife I want to sell the SUV because it is too large for the city traffic and too slow to turn. So I drive with caution everywhere.

Deuem

[Norval]

There are far too many RULES as it is in this world.

As most seem to not pay any attention to even the most basic of rules, I guess making more is the answer.

Try and make people be RESPONSIBLE instead, , , , FOCLMFAO

I'll be over there >>>>  having a couple of tokes and laughing at all these road apples being tossed about. 

[Amaterasu]

I would like to get back into the percentage of car crashes.

Before I wrote Out of a hundred crashes

49 drunk
25 regular
25 high
1 stupid

Ok, Say the percentages of high and normal are equal and I buy that. Now what happens if

All people stop drunk driving, 50 crashes don't happen,
then we have

25 regular
25 high
1 stupid

Now we remove the high drivers and

25 regular
1 stupid

Reteach all the regular drivers how to drive again, Which they do here if you get in a crash.
and we are then left with stupid.

Stupid wins out in the end but 49+25+25 are turned around.

If you are caught driving here high or drunk you go to jail, don't pass go and lose your licence.
Many sober people now driving watching out for stupid.

By saying that the odds are the same and condoning high driving is accepting the fact to let them crash because the odds are the same? That I don't understand. If drunk driving odds were the same then we should condone them also?

What about a drunk, high, stupid driver? I'm turning around.

Deuem

You have a fallacy there.  Whether People are using cannabis or not, They will have the same number of accidents.  So just stopping the use of cannabis will not change the percentages.  It will go to 50% "regular."

[Amaterasu]

There are far too many RULES as it is in this world.

As most seem to not pay any attention to even the most basic of rules, I guess making more is the answer.

Try and make people be RESPONSIBLE instead, , , , FOCLMFAO

I'll be over there >>>>  having a couple of tokes and laughing at all these road apples being tossed about. 

Bit off topic, but, though I'm familiar with LMAO, ROTFLMAO, and a few others...  What is FOCLMAO?

[ArMaP]

Bit off topic, but, though I'm familiar with LMAO, ROTFLMAO, and a few others...  What is FOCLMAO?

What's an off topic among friends (and many other off topics)?

I think it means "Falling Off Chair Laughing My Ass Out".

[Amaterasu]

What's an off topic among friends (and many other off topics)?

I think it means "Falling Off Chair Laughing My Ass Out".

That more likely means "Falling Off Chair Laughing My Ass OFF".  I mean, LMAO means "Laughing My Ass Off..."  But thanks, ArMaP.  Clarifies "FOC."

[deuem]

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I'll be over there >>>>  having a couple of tokes and laughing at all these road apples being tossed about. 

Guess it is my turn to rant.

Why do you keep tossing out these little jabs that your way is best and insult the crew here. Maybe those couple of tokes are hitting harder that I thought.. You seem to be an expert in blanklet statements with ZERO to back them up. Please come up with some good honest statements and people will read them. I like apples, toss some more...Apple pie for Deuem tonight..

You are the hardest person for me to read on Peggy.

Deuem

[zorgon]

you really cant drive on it.i know nobody that actually gets that stoned.

I see many that smoke and drive here... granted none as stoned as Cheech and Chong but then many drive after drinking not quite drunk  just IMPAIRED so reaction time is reduced. You could like drive a lifetime and never get an accident but if you get into a situation that requires you to be quick to react THAT is whern it makes a difference.  Those percentages forget to account for the fact that alchohol is legal, pot is not, so use of A over P is going to be higher

only on tv which exagerates the effects.it can makes sleepy but we dont arrest people for being sleepy and driving even though alot of highway accidents are for just that reason.probly ten percent.

The effects I have seen with people on pot is that time slows down for them, not the same effect as drinking. And yeah they can arrest people for being tired if they are weaving all over the road. You just don't hear about those as much and it is usually processed as "Reckless Driving" rather than a DUI

[zorgon]

Bit off topic, but, though I'm familiar with LMAO, ROTFLMAO, and a few others...  What is FOCLMAO?

FOCROTFLMAO