UFO Found In Baltic Sea?

[deuem]

I would like to add a note about it looking Photo Shopped./

It should! If it didn't I would be worried.  When you uses a side scan radar you make passes. My old friend has one and when we looked for new ship wrecks. You make passes, if you have a printer, you get strips of paper. If you want to make a photo out of it, we used to tape them together. Now a days you would either dirrect link to a computer or scan them into a file and then Shop them back together. At that depth there is no way to get one big photo on one pass. It would wash out. So lots of passes for a cleaner photo. Most likely a lot more than you see.

Now I don't want anyone to say it is real or fake based on what I just wrote. It still could be just a copy, copy, copy. But if I had to do it, it would come out very similar and yes it would be shopped. We all tend to forget that real people buy and use photoshop for real work. It is the tricksters that use it for faking things, not everyone.

The photo they show, if real, is looking to me like a tanker or sub with the deck colapsed/gone in parts and the ships frames showing, still in an upright position. Watch and see, this will be Noahs Arc in a few days.  It is the typical run around that gets us. The game is on and in full swing.

Deuem

[sky otter]

oh boo hoo..

no body liked my  commuter transpot idea
come on guys.. it could have been before scotty could be ya up
party poops...
sigh

[Littleenki]

Mornin' Dueum, Im glad you chimed in here!

You say it may be a tanker or some ship, but clearly the image shows differing bottom structures around the anomaly, yet the "ship" looks like a grade school copy and paste.

I think that it's possible the glitch could be an effect of some cloaking device meant to keep us from finding it, and even if the 'aliens" who were on board are dead and gone, the device might still be working. Or even not working well, as seen by the actual shape being shown on sonar in two places.

And, as we are a resonant universe, any sonar efforts could be undermined by such a cloaking device, to the point where it's all a big scrambled assemblage of the same image.

Of course, this is just one theory among many, and not what I actually believe as of now, but as Im the last one to shoot down any chance of finding ET, it's the only theory I can imagine causing this weird copying and overlapping of images into a larger package.

Cloaking? Alien photoshop? Both?

Wait and see, I guess!
Cheers
Littleenki

[Littleenki]

oh boo hoo..

no body liked my  commuter transpot idea
come on guys.. it could have been before scotty could be ya up
party poops...
sigh

I like it, Sky, and it always pissed me off when they would beam down instead of using a perfectly good shuttlecraft!
Id start looking for some skeletons in red shirts down there if I were them!
LOL! Your a trip Sky!
Happy gardening!
Le

[Amaterasu]

I would like to add a note about it looking Photo Shopped./

It should! If it didn't I would be worried.  When you uses a side scan radar you make passes. My old friend has one and when we looked for new ship wrecks. You make passes, if you have a printer, you get strips of paper. If you want to make a photo out of it, we used to tape them together. Now a days you would either dirrect link to a computer or scan them into a file and then Shop them back together. At that depth there is no way to get one big photo on one pass. It would wash out. So lots of passes for a cleaner photo. Most likely a lot more than you see.

Now I don't want anyone to say it is real or fake based on what I just wrote. It still could be just a copy, copy, copy. But if I had to do it, it would come out very similar and yes it would be shopped. We all tend to forget that real people buy and use photoshop for real work. It is the tricksters that use it for faking things, not everyone.

The photo they show, if real, is looking to me like a tanker or sub with the deck colapsed/gone in parts and the ships frames showing, still in an upright position. Watch and see, this will be Noahs Arc in a few days.  It is the typical run around that gets us. The game is on and in full swing.

Deuem

Yes, I know about the striping in such things.  But if You look, You will see identical striping on the upper right piece as on the lower right piece - but the upper piece is shifted to the right by quite a ways.  This is a smoking gun right there.  The stripes would NOT match EXACTLY but shifted over (relative to the whole) on a piece that matches EXACTLY in other details, allowing for slight shrinkage and placement approximation.

No...  I will stand firm in My assessment, as one who has used Photoshop for thousands of hours, in saying that the probabilities that this was shopped are 99.9999999999999%

[deuem]

I think we agree, I am just saying that it would have needed to be shopped no matter what.

Yes it looks like a botched up copy, copy as I also wrote.

Is it snowing on your computer, because when I see this new photo I call it a snow job! lol

Deuem

[Amaterasu]

I think we agree, I am just saying that it would have needed to be shopped no matter what.

Yes, agreed.  Just saying that to Me it is VERY clear that the upper "object" is a manufactured one using elements from the original file.

Yes it looks like a botched up copy, copy as I also wrote.

Yes You did.  [smile]  It just seemed to My initial view that You were hedging on the manufactured nature of the image of the "cigar."  My many apologies for misreading Your intent.

Is it snowing on your computer, because when I see this new photo I call it a snow job! lol

Deuem

LOL!  It's ALWAYS snowing on MY monitor!  I have red snow perpetually.  But this did not make it impossible to analyze the fakery in the photo - the snow is not THAT bad.  (And in the dolor range in that photo, barely there.)

But yes.  I don't know what the motive was for releasing that clear fake as some sort of real object, but attempted snow job it is.

[zorgon]

But yes.  I don't know what the motive was for releasing that clear fake as some sort of real object, but attempted snow job it is.

Seriously? You don't know? 

Well let me spell it out for you

M O N E Y

These guys are treasure hunters. From the very first release they said they were looking for  MONEY to make it worth their while to go back down there

Then came the Tabloid Effect... the general public buys tabloids, They are not interested in odd rocks. An Alien space craft, an underwater Stonehenge, maybe a lost part of Atlantis... THAT sells (MONEY) the news

It was the media that first turned it into a spaceship. In the original live interview there was no mention of UFO. But that video has been removed (good thing I saved it ) So the treasure hunters went with the flow... saw a good opportunity to make more bucks by promoting the mystery

And conspiracy people are just as bad as the tabloid eating public. Why? because they are so sure that there has to be a coverup that they won't believe if it turns out to be 'just a rock' this time. The military exercise in the area is proof of that... never mind that we are on the brink of war with Iran

So the tabloid eaters will tell you that Brittany Spears just gave birth to an Alien baby, and the CTers will say it has to be a cover up when they return with nothing

[zorgon]

This is how They hide the truth in plain sight.  Too much non-truth out there such that the truth gets lumped with the bogus.

This is also how they make a story out of nothing

This picture  a real sonar scan is much better to look at. Yeah that other one is photoshopped. Doesn't take more than a glance to see the cloning   I prefer Paintshop Pro  much better cloning tools

[Somamech]

One question I asked myself which may be useful for others when I saw this story...

Why are they mentioning UFO and Mellenium Falcon in the news when it's a rock hard given that the Navy's of the world would have a pretty good understanding of what's down there in the murky depths.  If it really was a parked ancient spaceship or something else I don't think they would be letting any ship go down in that area. 

The Australian government would probably find a need to make sure they placed a detention centre near by for  a crude but rather hat tipping example

[Amaterasu]

Seriously? You don't know? 

Well let me spell it out for you

M O N E Y

These guys are treasure hunters. From the very first release they said they were looking for  MONEY to make it worth their while to go back down there

Then came the Tabloid Effect... the general public buys tabloids, They are not interested in odd rocks. An Alien space craft, an underwater Stonehenge, maybe a lost part of Atlantis... THAT sells (MONEY) the news

It was the media that first turned it into a spaceship. In the original live interview there was no mention of UFO. But that video has been removed (good thing I saved it ) So the treasure hunters went with the flow... saw a good opportunity to make more bucks by promoting the mystery

And conspiracy people are just as bad as the tabloid eating public. Why? because they are so sure that there has to be a coverup that they won't believe if it turns out to be 'just a rock' this time. The military exercise in the area is proof of that... never mind that we are on the brink of war with Iran

So the tabloid eaters will tell you that Brittany Spears just gave birth to an Alien baby, and the CTers will say it has to be a cover up when they return with nothing

Now, z, I didn't say I did not have data that pointed to a likelihood of motive.  I just said I didn't KNOW, as in have complete certainty.  Sure, I speculate You are absolutely correct.  I give it a very high probability.  At least 90%.  But I cannot say I KNOW the motive, so thus My statement.  [smile]

[zorgon]

PSSTTT that was sarcasm hence the

[Amaterasu]

PSSTTT that was sarcasm hence the

LOL!  Ok.  Sarcasm is a difficult thing to pick up on in print.  I will be sure to figure when I see You use the that You have good probability of being sarcastic.  [smile]

[rdunk]

And I will look forward to whatever is the real truth about this matter, your learn-ed opinions not withstanding!!!

[Amaterasu]

And I will look forward to whatever is the real truth about this matter, your learn-ed opinions not withstanding!!!

Well, another point...  In the sonar image z put up (see below) the area where the "cigar" would be is completely blank.  Part of it would be showing at the bottom (if not all of it) - and it's completely blank.

So...  Just another indication that the "cigar" was photomanipulated into place.

As for learning whatever is the real truth is about this matter...  We just may never know.