Airplanes in Medieval Times?

[zorgon]

Airplanes in Medieval Times?

Madonna and Child (21x15 cm) by Carlo Crivelli in the Pinacoteca Civica di Ancona

[The Seeker]

AYe, just don't bear any resemblance to ducks or geese...
I also find it interesting that a lot of those exquisite old paintings appear to have numerous saucer and cigar shaped artifacts present...


seeker

[The Matrix Traveller]

You'll recognise this One Z or similar  ....

[zorgon]

I have a collection of UFO in old paintings on Livingmoon  but never saw this one. Its hard to find though it is featured on that Italian debunker site.

He ignores the airplanes and says the 'rockets' are towers  I buy that... but WHAT ABOUT THE AIRPLANES

LOL Skeptics have tunnel vision

Always like THIS one  with the little man and his dog looking UP at the UFO

[The Matrix Traveller]

I think you will find, there is less known about our past history, than what is admitted by those
responsible for writing the history books ?

I think there have been many civilisations who have been very intelligent in the past !

Perhaps it is the "Education System" which is responsible, for presenting History as they are directed !

[The Matrix Traveller]

There are Aliens mentioned in biblical History but we 1st have to understand the writings
before we can tell what's what.

primarily the writings are about the history of The Soul.

When this is understood in its Correct Context it is Easier to tell what is about the Alien Species.

Sadly much has been removed or change throughout history, by various Institutions !

Even "The Gospel of Thomas" refers to this !  Quote;

39.   Jesus said, "The Pharisees and the Scribes

have taken THE KEYS of KNOWLEDGE

and HIDDEN THEM.

They themselves have NOT entered,

nor have they allowed to enter those who wish to.

You, however, be as wise as serpents and as innocent as doves."

[Norval]

, , , , but, WHY "air" craft?

They gots flying saucers!

Just askin,, , 

[The Matrix Traveller]

, , , , but, WHY "air" craft?

They gots flying saucers!

Just askin,, , 

Very simple really one doesn't need to be a rocket scientist to understand the pleasures
in the Experience, some of us enjoy their Toys. I enjoy such past times, as Climbing, Some Enjoy Caving,
Some enjoy kayaking, while others like tramping or just walking in the evenings !

Those on Earth desire Technologies ... while others just accept Alien Tech. as an every day experience.

Some large Alien "Transport Interfaces" have recreation areas in them, such as Bush walks,
climbing and Gaming rooms involving Sports you have never dreamed of !

Many larger Craft have like restaurants and other social areas.

Even in this Small craft about 60 Meters Long had a restaurant in its mid section and a smaller craft
mounted at the rear.

This a "Side Elevation" of just one of the "Transport Interfaces" Craft I have been on !

and a "Plan Elevation" of the same Craft ...

and the Front Section... a "Cross section View" looking Forward ...

Even this little Craft ... we crossed whole Galaxies in minutes ...   

A little beyond the "Technology" you have on Earth  ...

So I might know just a little, about this Technology ....   


Added.....

And a "Side Cross Section View" of the Front section ...   

[sky otter]

i never cared for that original pic..the wierd looking babe holding a bird on a string in one hand and whatever that is in the other..ewwwwwwwwwwwwww

just a personal point of view

[Littleenki]

Indeed, Seeker, what were they seeing, as such tech items wouldnt even be within their range of understanding?

So then why would they draw or paint an airplane, or rocket, without ever seeing or perceiving one?

We can suggest they were artifacts of past memories, ingrained in our dna from a time when aircraft filled the skies...

We can suggest, those planes might be from another time...maybe even from experiences such as we see occuring in various locations such as the Bermuda Triangle....

Or, they could be stylized birds and towers, who knows what the artist was thinking?

Personally when I see these artifacts, some authentic, some maybe not, I am reminded that history has been concealed and tucked neatly away for a chosen few in its true form, and many things are possible...but I dont feel if those are planes and rockets, they are from medieval times, but from either a dimensional rift, or visitation from some distant place, whereas the ones who did the visiting, tried to emulate what we have today flying around through the communications and signals we sent over that last couple hundred years....and the visitors, in emulating our modern aircraft, fashioned their own transports in the style of those aircraft.

They just were off by a few centuries or so in the context of time and how our world would appear when they arrived here....otherwise they wouldve not bothered with emulating airplanes, as medieval mankind wouldnt have understood what those flying things were anyways in their own times.

Or, I could be completely wrong.....

[Elvis Hendrix]

masolini Dapanacale




The Assumption 1490




1330




Woodcut 1479




Nurnberg 1561.




Hamburg 1697.




Paolo Uccello 1460.




Tanzanian Rock Art.




Bruge 1538.




Sahara Rock art.




17th Century Fresco.




Mexico dated 7000 years.




Moses gets his freak on.

[Littleenki]

Found a great source for Saucers in artwork....place called The Living Moon....sounds interesting...
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/49ufo_files/03files2/UFOs_in_Art_01.html

[astr0144]

Very Thought provoking Matrix !

Just how big can these Ships be ? Are they larger ones than what you describe ?

Are there any that behave similar to what we are led to see in Star Trek ?

Can they transport down to planets or be beemed up back to the ship  like in Star Trek ?

Was star trek designed on ET ship reality ?

Have Humans as far as you know managed to design and travel in similar ships ?  or will they ?

I very much look forward to your descriptions on the experiences with ETs & your travels...

Very simple really one doesn't need to be a rocket scientist to understand the pleasures
in the Experience, some of us enjoy their Toys. I enjoy such past times, as Climbing, Some Enjoy Caving,
Some enjoy kayaking, while others like tramping or just walking in the evenings !

Those on Earth desire Technologies ... while others just accept Alien Tech. as an every day experience.

Some large Alien "Transport Interfaces" have recreation areas in them, such as Bush walks,
climbing and Gaming rooms involving Sports you have never dreamed of !

Many larger Craft have like restaurants and other social areas.

Even in this Small craft about 60 Meters Long had a restaurant in its mid section and a smaller craft
mounted at the rear.

This a "Side Elevation" of just one of the "Transport Interfaces" Craft I have been on !

and a "Plan Elevation" of the same Craft ...

and the Front Section... a "Cross section View" looking Forward ...

Even this little Craft ... we crossed whole Galaxies in minutes ...   

A little beyond the "Technology" you have on Earth  ...

So I might know just a little, about this Technology ....   


Added.....

And a "Side Cross Section View" of the Front section ...   

[zorgon]

, , , , but, WHY "air" craft?
They gots flying saucers!
Just askin,, , 

Have you seen those flying saucers fly in air?  They are all over the place like drunken pilots.  They may be great with their interstellar drives but not so practical for local transport.

I hear their gravity motors tend to distort time when you get near them.

The Starship Enterprise is a huge warp drive ship, but they need smaller shuttled to maneuver on planet

The Ancient Vedic scriptures tell us of AIRSHIPS too and I know they had the huge battle cruisers that wiped out cities with atomics or similar

Here is one that likely has anti gravity judging by the size but has wings and tail like a bird to maneuver in the air

[zorgon]

Have Humans as far as you know managed to design and travel in similar ships ?  or will they ?

Ben Rich, stated during a 1993, Alumni Speech at UCLA,

"We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an Act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity...Anything you can imagine, we already know how to do."

"Inside the Skunk Works (Lockheed's secret research and development entity), we were a small, intensely cohesive group consisting of about fifty veteran engineers and designers and a hundred or so expert machinists and shop workers. Our forte was building technologically advanced airplanes of small number and of high class for highly secret missions."

"We now have the technology to take ET home. No, it won't take someone's lifetime to do it. There is an error in the equations. We know what it is. We now have the capability to travel to the stars. First, you have to understand that we will not get to the stars using chemical propulsion. Second, we have to devise a new propulsion technology. What we have to do is find out where Einstein went wrong."

When Rich was asked how UFO propulsion worked, he said, "Let me ask you. How does ESP work?" The questioner responded with, "All points in time and space are connected?" Rich then said, "That's how it works!"