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One-way trip to Mars prohibited in Islam

Started by burntheships, February 20, 2014, 08:46:24 PM

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burntheships

Fatwa committee under the General Authority of Islamic Affairs and Endowment in the UAE says such a journey poses a real risk to life.


QuotePromoting or being involved in a one-way trip to the Red Planet is prohibited in Islam, a fatwa committee under the General Authority of Islamic Affairs and Endowment in the UAE has ruled.

"Such a one-way journey poses a real risk to life, and that can never be justified in Islam," the committee said.  "There is a possibility that an individual who travels to planet Mars may not be able to remain alive there, and is more vulnerable to death."

Whoever opts for this "hazardous trip", the committee said, is likely to perish for no "righteous reason", and thus will be liable to a "punishment similar to that of suicide in the Hereafter".

The committee, presided by Professor Dr Farooq Hamada, said: "Protecting life against all possible dangers and keeping it safe is an issue agreed upon by all religions and is clearly stipulated in verse 4/29 of the Holy Quran: Do not kill yourselves or one another. Indeed, Allah is to you ever Merciful."

http://www.khaleejtimes.com/nation/inside.asp?xfile=/data/nationgeneral/2014/February/nationgeneral_February150.xml&section=nationgeneral

Ok, how about a suicide mission to Mars then?
;)
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rdunk

Yes, it seems it is not only Ok, but is rewarded for terroristic suicide, But, it is not ok to by their own free will to do something similar to what Columbus and many other explorers did, to expand the "known world! A pretty sad and so obviously ridiculous way of thinking!  :o

Gigas

Seems the big three religions, christianity, judaism and islam all say not to do anything but obey the rules to remain quiet, sit still, pray and do nothing but worship some invisible entity that never shows itself.

If aliens created religion and they don't want the lowly human travelin in space back on mars, well, say so in a religious parable, don't do it. Perhaps the martians don't want the seed of man infecting the mars wonderland.

Than again, maybe the therms own mars and are enjoying the show on earth as it melts down. In the movie John Carpenter of Mars the therms tell him they are immortal and they serve their queen and they don't destroy civilizations. They facilitate it, manage it and let the civilizations destroy themselves.

That is what we see happening on earth today with the advancement of technology used to destroy the human race. Who gave us that technology which seems to have been borne from the Nazi era into the two major powers of the planet.

One way trip means a colony in a brave new world off this prison barge.
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burntheships

Quote from: rdunk on February 20, 2014, 08:58:18 PM
But, it is not ok to by their own free will to do something similar to what Columbus and many other explorers did, to expand the "known world! A pretty sad and so obviously ridiculous way of thinking!  :o

Ah, yes...
This is what we would consider a great confliction.

8)




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burntheships

Quote from: Gigas on February 20, 2014, 09:36:30 PM
Seems the big three religions, christianity, judaism and islam

I generally avoid that broad brush.
At least Christians will explore space.

Does Judiasm prohibit exploration into space?

Last I looked, in Revelations it said man
would travel to and fro, and there is nothing
in there about it being a sin.

;D ;D ;D
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ArMaP

It's interesting that nothing about this can be found on the site of the organisation that supposedly issued that fatwa and that all references point to the same source.

PS: even if this fatwa is real it doesn't mean going to Mars is forbidden in Islam, a fatwa is only followed by those that follow what the person/entity that issued the fatwa, as a fatwa is just an opinion.

ArMaP

Quote from: rdunk on February 20, 2014, 08:58:18 PM
Yes, it seems it is not only Ok, but is rewarded for terroristic suicide, But, it is not ok to by their own free will to do something similar to what Columbus and many other explorers did, to expand the "known world! A pretty sad and so obviously ridiculous way of thinking!  :o
Considering the results of Columbus' most famous voyage, I think it may had been better if he had remained in Europe.  :P

VillageIdiot

Oh, the irony. Don't go to Mars. You might die. Stay on Planet Earth and become a suicide bomber for 72 virgins.  ::)

burntheships

#8
Quote from: ArMaP on February 20, 2014, 09:58:20 PM
It's interesting that nothing about this can be found on the site of the organisation that supposedly issued that fatwa and that all references point to the same source.


Hmmm

Yes, lets vet the story, good idea.
Aside that this article is on Google with
over 25 hits news articles...

http://www.worldbulletin.net/news/129214/muslim-scholars-issue-fatwa-against-living-on-mars

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/20/mars-fatwa_n_4823059.html?utm_hp_ref=religion

http://muslimvillage.com/2014/02/21/50362/uae-ulama-give-fatwa-against-one-way-trip-to-mars/


Too many to list.

I dont have time to comb through the 337,000 Fatwads
that were issued by the awquaf,
http://www.awqaf.ae/News.aspx?Lang=EN&SectionID=16

but I would be willing to bet my passport they did.

;D

Quote

Late in April 2013, Mars One, a Dutch company, invited volunteers to fly and live on the Red Planet, but there is no technology so far that would enable a return trip from Mars to Earth.  The company is planning the first such trip to Mars in 2023 and another crew every two years afterwards with the goal of establishing a permanent human colony.

'The Mars One mission plan consists of cargo missions and unmanned preparation of a habitable settlement, followed by human landings.


'In the coming years, a demonstration mission, communication satellites, two rovers and several cargo missions will be sent to Mars. These missions will set up the outpost where the human crew will live and work.'

Over 200,000 people, including 500 Saudis and Arabs, have applied to take part in the missions so far.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2562957/Muslim-leaders-issue-fatwa-against-living-MARS-no-righteous-reason-there.html



Found - Mars One

http://www.mars-one.com/

Quote

The ruling from the UAE General Authority of Islamic Affairs and Endowments (GAIAE) hasn't yet appeared in GAIAE's fatwa listings, but it doesn't necessarily have the force of law any more than a learned Christian priest or pastor's interpretations of Biblical scripture would. However, it would be something that a devout Muslim would at least take into consideration when making a decision—much in the same way that a devout Christian would likely listen to a pastor or priest about major life decisions.


http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/02/one-way-mars-one-mission-detractors-now-include-some-muslim-clerics/

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/feb/19/islamic-clerics-issue-fatwa-against-living-mars/
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Norval

Quote from: burntheships on February 20, 2014, 09:50:37 PM
I generally avoid that broad brush.
At least Christians will explore space.

Does Judiasm prohibit exploration into space?

Last I looked, in Revelations it said man
would travel to and fro, and there is nothing
in there about it being a sin.

;D ;D ;D


It also states that mankind "will force their way into the heavens." OT
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burntheships

Quote from: Norval on February 20, 2014, 10:45:33 PM

It also states that mankind "will force their way into the heavens." OT

Norval,

Thanks for that one, where can I find it?

:)
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The Matrix Traveller

Promoting or being involved in a one-way trip to the Red Planet is prohibited in Islam, a fatwa committee under the General Authority of Islamic Affairs and Endowment in the UAE has ruled.

Quote"Such a one-way journey poses a real risk to life, and that can never be justified in Islam," the committee said.  "There is a possibility that an individual who travels to planet Mars may not be able to remain alive there, and is more vulnerable to death."

Whoever opts for this "hazardous trip", the committee said, is likely to perish for no "righteous reason", and thus will be liable to a "punishment similar to that of suicide in the Hereafter".

The committee, presided by Professor Dr Farooq Hamada, said: "Protecting life against all possible dangers and keeping it safe is an issue agreed upon by all religions and is clearly stipulated in verse 4/29 of the Holy Quran: Do not kill yourselves or one another. Indeed, Allah is to you ever Merciful."

Its a pity they Don't understand or comprehend the DIFFERENCE between The MEAT SUIT (Species)
and LIFE !

Norval

Quote from: burntheships on February 20, 2014, 11:14:49 PM
Norval,

Thanks for that one, where can I find it?

:)

, , or achieve the heavens by force.  OT, Old Testament.

Sorry, my old research puter died and the new win 7 wont run my older type of data base, , ,  :'(
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ArMaP

Quote from: burntheships on February 20, 2014, 10:30:34 PM
Aside that this article is on Google with
over 25 hits news articles...

http://www.worldbulletin.net/news/129214/muslim-scholars-issue-fatwa-against-living-on-mars

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/20/mars-fatwa_n_4823059.html?utm_hp_ref=religion

http://muslimvillage.com/2014/02/21/50362/uae-ulama-give-fatwa-against-one-way-trip-to-mars/


Too many to list.
All the ones I saw (including the ones you posted) point to the same source (Khaleej Times) and most even have exactly the same text.

QuoteI dont have time to comb through the 337,000 Fatwads
that were issued by the awquaf,
http://www.awqaf.ae/News.aspx?Lang=EN&SectionID=16

but I would be willing to bet my passport they did.
They did what? ???

burntheships

#14
Quote from: ArMaP on February 21, 2014, 12:56:20 AM

They did what? ???

That the  the awquaf,
http://www.awqaf.ae/News.aspx?Lang=EN&SectionID=16
and its "officials" did in fact state the things in the news.

And betting my passport is a pun from 9/11.

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