Liberty and the American Way

[Amaterasu]

Liberty and freedom are often used to mean the same thing.  The ability to choose for One's Self how One spends One's time/energy.  Both presume the three Laws are binding principles, and Individuals presume other "laws" as well (really all beyond the three are statutes, acts, bills, codes, rules, regulations, edicts, mandates, ordinances, and so on).

The difference is that "liberty" is what a ship's captain gives to His/Her crew, while "freedom" means there is no Other that One must satisfy against One's choice.  One does not have time run out and have to return to duty.

So We may ask who gave the U.S. "liberty?"  Who sold Us "liberty" as "freedom?"  When does this "liberty" run out?  Who do We report to?  Do We even have freedom?  Do We give lip service to freedom, but want to have someOne We can give up Our freedom to for the "safety" of the "ship?"  What would freedom ringing look like (to mix it up a bit)?

Looking around, I think it is safe to say that freedom is rare and only afforded fully by money.  Virtually all of Us must find some way to input Our energy so as to have liberty to enjoy any freedom We can afford.  We must go to work, We must choose from a wide array of less than enticing ways to plug Our energy in so as to afford, not freedom, but merely what We need to survive.

Does this sound like freedom for all at all?  Sadly, We are a country – and even a planet – of "consensual" ship conscripts – Our consent given on pain of death, from starvation, exposure.  Our "liberty" is rare.  Our freedom, nil.

If freedom was ringing, We all would have the choice of how We spend Our time.  All of it.  Not just what time We have around Our job, not just in ways We can manage to afford.  Within the three Laws. 

I cannot see any reasonable Human thinking it's a good idea to break the three Laws, and in most cases where the Laws are broken money is motive; the power over Others money affords is involved.

What percentage of hurting/killing anOther is done for money?  War surely is 100% for profit.  It is incited through pretense: false flags, psyops, yellow journalism, rumor; and then weaponry, ordinance, and so forth is sold to both sides by the same interests.  The war industry is always the only winner.  The thug hurting or killing to rob is choosing that behavior purely for monetary gain.  The murders of those who threaten profits...  I'm going to say that except for jealous lovers and the psychopathic lust for pain/blood from anOther, virtually all such behavior choices have money as a motivation. 

The first Law:  Do not willfully hurt or kill anOther...  If none of Us had to worry about, and in fact had Our choice of, what food We might eat, what place We lived in, what project, with Betterment Ethic in mind, We might choose to do, how much deliberate hurting or killing of One anOther do You think We would see?  More or less than We see now?

The second Law:  Do not willfully take or damage the property of anOther...  If the abundance of the planet was flowing to all of Us freely, and We had all the basics available for all, and did things for Others – performed a concert, painted a picture, built a rocking chair, took Others along fishing, got with a group that was working on archaeology, laughed with and shared with the People We love, how much stealing, destruction, would We see?  More or less than We see now?

The third Law:  Do not willfully defraud anOther...  Except in Human social interaction, where lovers lie – which cannot be solved for – again, virtually all defrauding is for a monetary gain, a power gain.  Without a psychopath's pyramid to climb – the money game, the power game – how much defrauding do You think We would see?  More or less than We see now?

Getting back to liberty and freedom, don't You think freedom would prevail for all of Us if We removed the need for money?  Wouldn't it then follow that the call to let freedom ring is best served by spreading awareness that We just now, in the history of Our planet (as taught in the schools), have the means to eliminate the need for money?  Wouldn't that truly be...the American Way?

We can eliminate "liberty" in favor of freedom, the freedom to show Our worth or choose worthlessness.  The freedom to find Our gifts and develop them rather than be forced into "reality" and a job that consists of asking Others if They want fries or not.  The freedom to learn as fascinates Us, rather than rote and rot.  The freedom to spend Our time as We choose.

What are these means, these tools, that We just now have?

In four short articles is explained not only what these tools are, but how We can use them.

Foundations: http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=5793.0

Analysis: http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=657.0

Solutocracy: http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=5607.0

The Plan: http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=5626.0

For freedom.

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"ALL money systems promote the most psychopathic to the top of the money/power heap - THEY will do ANYTHING to get there."
"The love of money is the root of all evil; remove the soil in which the root grows..."
"If the universe is made of mostly "dark" energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"
"If You want peace, take the PROFIT out of war."

[Sinny]

Nice post once again Amy.

I've often herard it said that our money system should work, provided its used correctly.

I quite like the idea of a note/coin I can use - I.e, If I mopped someone's floors, they don't need to cough up what I wanted in return straight away, but they can give me my earned 'coupon', money' 'whatever'.. In order for me to use elsewhere..

Thats all fine and dandy.

It's once the standard is removed from currency and corruption steeps in.

Obviously the Fed, and our English Inland Revenue are rollocks from the 'get-go'.

I tend to agree with rdunk in the sense that your Abundance is just not realistic.

How about channeling your energies into the Green currency - or what ever JKF was going to do.. you know the thing I mean..

[rdunk]

Amy, just so you would know, I won't be making any future replies to the Abundance Paradigm stuff, as I am changing my settings to "ignore" for that board. That is a subject that I am really tired of hearing about. Such will also negate any need for your having to reply back, so we both gain!

We can continue to converse on the many other subjects here, if you can speak to other than TAP issues!    

[Sinny]

Amy, just so you would know, I won't be making any future replies to the Abundance Paradigm stuff, as I am changing my settings to "ignore" for that board. That is a subject that I am really tired of hearing about. Such will also negate any need for your having to reply back, so we both gain!

We can continue to converse on the many other subjects here, if you can speak to other than TAP issues!

Just an outward observation rdunk.. But you seem PMSey lately..

[Amaterasu]

Nice post once again Amy.

I've often herard it said that our money system should work, provided its used correctly.

Certainly any tool, if used correctly, will do the job it is designed for.  But just as hammers can be used to bash brains out, so can the tool of money.  ANY money.  And the problem is that, unlike a hammer, the tool promotes its misuse.  And the most ruthless will end up with a virtual monopoly of the tool, allowing Them to bash away at the rest of Us toolless People.  The love of the tool and its power grows as long as that tool is functional.

I quite like the idea of a note/coin I can use - I.e, If I mopped someone's floors, they don't need to cough up what I wanted in return straight away, but they can give me my earned 'coupon', money' 'whatever'.. In order for me to use elsewhere..

Shift paradigms.  The floor will be mopped by a robot...unless You really WANT to mop the floor - because it adds to happiness (betterment) in You or the Person whose floor it is that You are mopping.  If You write a book, You will offer it and be honored when Others read and discuss it.  If You want something, You can order all basics (high quality, organic...) from the robots for free, and ask Others if They create things You want.  They will give You Their work for the pleasure of seeing Your pleasure in what They produce.  They don't need money to keep food on the table or a comfortable home, so wanting money would be pointless.

Thats all fine and dandy.

It's once the standard is removed from currency and corruption steeps in.

And the "standard" will ALWAYS be perverted by the ruthless (psychopathic).  They will always find ways to control lives through the grabbing of the tool.

Obviously the Fed, and our English Inland Revenue are rollocks from the 'get-go'.

I tend to agree with rdunk in the sense that your Abundance is just not realistic.

Why?  If We all had the idea in mind, why couldn't We choose to go that route?  No, if We are for the most part stuck in the scarcity paradigm, We will not move towards better.  If, on the other hand, We are thinking of it, and each does what They can to move in that direction, We will go there.

How about channeling your energies into the Green currency - or what ever JKF was going to do.. you know the thing I mean..

I do know.  I will NOT support one brand of tool for another.  If We had a reset - everyOne on the planet had identical money, all worth the same, at some point the ruthless (psychopathic, "satanic") will have virtually all of it and the rest will be wage/debt slaves.  Wars will be incited for profit, toxins sold as "medicine," "laws" passed that make it easy to fill prisons with slave labor, cures suppressed, unnecessary surgeries pushed so "doctors" can make money, toxic waste sold as "healthful," food patented, water collection made illegal, carbon tax on the air We breathe, Agenda 21, Codex Alimentarius, chemtrails, and all the other ills I would solve for.

Just sayin'.

Amy, just so you would know, I won't be making any future replies to the Abundance Paradigm stuff, as I am changing my settings to "ignore" for that board. That is a subject that I am really tired of hearing about. Such will also negate any need for your having to reply back, so we both gain!

We can continue to converse on the many other subjects here, if you can speak to other than TAP issues!    

Make a deal with Ya, rdunk.  You don't mention TAP in any way, and I will not respond.

As for ignoring My posts...  [shrug]  Your loss.  My opinion.

[Sinny]

You raise a good point about that 'standard'

I suppose we would need an honest independant body to monitor and regulate it, the alternative is a completely different sysem, such as yours.

Nope, I hate moping - don't mind hoovering tho! 

How would foreign investment occur under Abundance?

And I know Amy, the wrld could do A LOT if everybody had the same idea.

Problem is, we cant even get the whole world to trash their governments, let alone their currency..

And that, I suspect, is your main barrier to success in regards to Abundance.

[Amaterasu]

You raise a good point about that 'standard'

I suppose we would need an honest independant body to monitor and regulate it, the alternative is a completely different sysem, such as yours.

And how can We ensure this "honesty?"  With bribes of money and power, threats of blackmail and bodily injury, I say We cannot.  Many an honest effort has been made in many an arena, only to be subverted and taken over to Our detriment. 

How would foreign investment occur under Abundance?

No "foreign investment..."  If People somewhere on the planet need help the word will get out and spread.  All who care can PERSONALLY offer help, if They are inclined.  TAP is planetary.  No way to contain it to one place.

And I know Amy, the wrld could do A LOT if everybody had the same idea.

And thus My efforts to spread awareness.  The greater the number thinking about it, the more likely the whole will begin to shift.

Problem is, we cant even get the whole world to trash their governments, let alone their currency..

Just add free energy, work to replace all non-free sources, add robots where no One wants to do a necessary job (did You know that at least 85% of all jobs are there to support the system of money?  Banking, insurance, accounting, advertising, sales, cashiering, lobbying, lawyering).  We can't get these People to do such things because They don't KNOW there is an alternate paradigm, a way to do things without some kind of money, without accounting for Our meaningful energy expended.  Spread the word.

And that, I suspect, is your main barrier to success in regards to Abundance.

My major barrier is that it is difficult to reach large numbers of People.  I keep plodding away, and hoping for 100 People as dedicated as I am to spreading awareness.

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

Not reading all of this,,,just passing thru...

How would foreign investment occur under Abundance?
No "foreign investment..."  If People somewhere on the planet need help the word will get out and spread.  All who care can PERSONALLY offer help, if They are inclined.  TAP is planetary.  No way to contain it to one place.

'Foreign investment' would work like this;

China: 'we have plenty of iron'
Russia; 'We have plenty of Aluminium'
Europe; 'we have plenty of food'

So, you need food, we need iron.
Let's just share it all equally, so that each nation has enough of what it needs.

Shortages are caused by peeps (nations, companies) HOARDING stuff, in order to run up the price, for profit, duh!

Jeez, it's that simple, and that's just the interim 'barter' phase.

Eventually that will go, every person has rights to each & every mineral on this, and every other planet.
Simple

[sky otter]

And thus My efforts to spread awareness.  The greater the number thinking about it, the more likely the whole will begin to shift.

well sadly Amy .. your efforts annoy more than  get them thinking about it
the shift is no one wants to hear your stuff anymore

being without money ..as you are .. i'm sure it's nice to think that if everyone else was in your boat things would change..
and yes they would.. instead of money there would be slave labor for those who could MAKE others do things...or worst..

your dream of fantasy land is just that..your dream

[Sinny]

But extravting Iron would cost more labour than say, growing corn...

Meaning measures still need to be in place..

Meaning thinhgs still need value..

Meaning we'd be replacing one system with another..

How would keep keep corruption out of Abundance?

[Sinny]

I think if Amy's work annoys you its time to re-evalute your emotional investments..

Go be annoyed at Bush..

[sky otter]

bwhahahahahahahahahah..

[rdunk]

Just an outward observation rdunk.. But you seem PMSey lately..

Well Sinny, I am sure that under TAP PMS is just one of the things that WILL NOT BE ALLOWED!! So, you do need to take advantage of it while you can!! (Obviously just kidding)

No, not really PMSey! Just tired of seeing the same things being said about this subject, and tired of feeling the need to make the same replies on this board. If such is mentioned on the open boards, I will take the usual exceptions by reply, because "IT AIN'T NEVER GONNA HAPPEN", at least on any type of large basis! And, there are many specific important issues that do need to be summarily addressed, and IMO, to CONTINUE to talk about TAP detracts from these. 

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

But extravting Iron would cost more labour than say, growing corn...

Meaning measures still need to be in place..

Meaning things still need value..

Meaning we'd be replacing one system with another..

How would keep keep corruption out of Abundance?

Robots will (eventually) become available, freeley, worldwide.
So it's not even a question of labour.
Even right now, they have to pay me 3 grand a month to even go LOOK at a mine, yet the peeps who work there have never seen so much money.

Why should I be a member of the 'elite'?
Because i know more?
That, in itself, is WRONG, i am only going to TRY to use my status to build on the TAP paradigm that Amy laid out.

You may have guessed by now that 1) Amy & me go way back, and 2) that i support her aim entirely, even if we both disagree about the timeline, we both agree that this shit shift needs to happen
Otherwise we will never break free of this vicious circle, and the whole fake ideaology of 'ownership'

What do you own, really?

Your body & soul is all, and even then some nut with a knife could take that from you tomorrow. Cherish it, every second, is my advice.

Now, back to work, lol..........

[Amaterasu]

And thus My efforts to spread awareness.  The greater the number thinking about it, the more likely the whole will begin to shift.

well sadly Amy .. your efforts annoy more than  get them thinking about it
the shift is no one wants to hear your stuff anymore

being without money ..as you are .. i'm sure it's nice to think that if everyone else was in your boat things would change..
and yes they would.. instead of money there would be slave labor for those who could MAKE others do things...or worst..

your dream of fantasy land is just that..your dream

If People are sick, like rdunk, They can block My forum section. 

In fact, maybe You should do so rather than posting in My section that You are sick of it.  It would work best for both of Us.

No, it is not a dream, but it's ok if You think it is.