Malaysia flight 370 Where is it?

[Just Looking]

Re MH 370:-

Through a process of elimination, we were left with the uncomfortable and very tragic likelihood that Zaharie - because of some personality disorder, depression or emotional breakdown - killed himself and everyone on the aircraft deliberately."

The authors believe Zaharie probably shut his co-pilot, Fariq Hamid, out of the cockpit, then closed off all communication and turned the aircraft around. He depressurised the aircraft and, once the cabin crew and passengers' oxygen had run out, they died from hypoxia.

The book cites the fact that pilot suicide has killed hundreds of people in recent decades, and the authors call for tighter scrutiny of pilot stress levels and more openness about mental health issues in the cockpit.

They are also critical of some Muslim countries' reluctance to acknowledge pilots' role in murder/suicide.

"Muslims don't commit suicide seems to be the common refrain," says Taylor, deputy editor of the Waikato Times.

"Well, they do, and surely the travelling public deserve better than that."

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/10340542/Disturbed-pilot-took-MH370-passengers-to-ocean-grave-authors-claim

I tried to post the following bit a few hours ago but the site was down for me and I couldn't get in/on.

Re MH 17

http://www.news.com.au/technology/online/russian-soldier-alexander-sotkin-posts-instagram-selfies-that-may-link-russian-military-to-ukraine/story-fnjwmwrh-1227009899938

Part of the article reads:-

A GOOFY, selfie-loving Russian soldier might have supplied the best proof yet of Moscow's direct support of Ukrainian rebels — and potential role in the downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17. Alexander Sotkin, 24, has been posting pictures of himself in various combat settings, such as an armoured personnel carrier and military encampments.
And within his Instagram shots, Sotkin appears to have activated a locator map that showed how several images were shot and uploaded inside eastern Ukraine earlier this month.

IF true I wonder how long before he dies in a car crash or commits suicide ?

[robomont]

i think the pilot of 370 did it but i also think he was set up to be a patsy.to start china into a war with south asia using a thermal nuclear bomb on bejing,remember the lithium battery load on the plain.thats the thermal part.he chickened out at last moment.

its a gimme that russia is behind east ukraine,they just had the jews and americans do the dirty work.now eu has the west and russia gets the east,and alot of the people want neither.they want autonomy.flight 17 was to be used to get neatherlands to step in and fight the war.but that could be just crazy conspiracy talk.

[08rubicon]

    In reference to mh17, and mh370, I think this post is
on topic, as the two are linked by the reason for their
destruction.After viewing the images posted on forum,
www.pprune.org  'mh17 down near Donetsk' page 55, it
is my opinion that mh17 was destroyed by a very large
internal explosion..It is my opinion mh17 was diverted
over Ukraine and detionated remotely to put the blame
on Russia.Do not know what is in the minds of whoever
is directing this confrontation. Any ideas?
   rubicon

[spacemaverick]

A new wri nkle I just found but it may be old news by now.  Someone got into some bank accounts of passengers.

Five months after the Malaysia Airlines flight went missing, mysterious withdrawals were stolen from the bank accounts
of four passengers aboard the doomed flight MH370, totaling 20,916 British Pounds, according to the UK Daily Mail.

A bank in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, reported the apparent discrepancies in their accounts on July 18, before lodging a police complaint, Assistant Commissioner to the crime investigation department, Izany Abdul Ghany revealed.

According to reports, the transactions were made on July 18 when money from the accounts of three passengers
was transferred to the account of a fourth passenger before it was removed.

This news comes as the search team prepares to conduct a deep-water search across 60,000 square kms of
the Indian Ocean.

'We are investigating the case as unauthorized access with intent to commit an offense,' Izany said, according to the Mirror.

'We are getting CCTV footage from the bank to identify the suspects involved.'  A source told the New Straits Times:
'We believe the suspect withdrew the money through the fourth victim's account via several automated teller
machines (ATMs) in the Klang Valley [surrounding Kuala Lumpur and its suburbs].'





This was taken from Forbidden Knowledge TV.....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2726422/Malaysian-bank-officer-husband-arrested-STEALING-30-000-accounts-four-passengers-went-doomed-Flight-MH370.html

[spacemaverick]

http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/564146/20140827/mh370-9-11-america-attack-malaysia-airlines.htm#.U_5K0VJ0ypp

Thomas McInerney has been a command pilot who has participated in 407 combat missions. Besides being a military analyst for Fox News, he is also a member of the pressure group called the Iran Policy Committee.

"During the interview with the channel, Thomas even brought up the topic of the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 and a book that he thinks would be significant for the Americans.

"On the seventh of September, a major news network and publishing network are going to put out a book," Thomas McInerney told the channel.

"It is going to be earth shattering of what's happening and what happened. The fact is we may even see a 9/11/14 MH-370 surface again," he added."

Not going to post the whole story here but I would say this is interesting.  This is a 3 star general with over 407 combat missions and maybe he knows something or at least can see the handwriting on the wall so to speak.....so I will watch with interest this coming 9-11-14 and hope for the best.  ISIS has surprised everyone in the public at least.  Had the also seized somehow MH 370 or is this too farfetched.  Being prior service we were always told never to under estimate our enemy.
....see above link for whole story.  Worth the read in my estimation.  (my opinion of course)

[spacemaverick]

An update as to what technology will be used to try and find MH 370.

http://www.economist.com/news/science-and-technology/21615487-new-analysis-and-sophisticated-mapping-technology-have-narrowed-search

A lot depends on the contour mapping. This will allow the towfish to be operated safely in a part of the ocean that had remained largely unexplored. The mapping was carried out by Zhu Kezhen, a Chinese naval ship, and Fugro Equator, a specialist vessel contracted from Fugro, a surveying company based in the Netherlands. The ships are fitted with hull-mounted multi-beam sonar systems. Sonar has long been used to measure the depth of the ocean by transmitting acoustic pulses and listening for the delay in their echoes from the sea floor. The multi-beam systems used by the survey ships allow much wider areas of the ocean floor to be covered in less time.

The ships are also equipped with a differential global positioning system (GPS), which can provide their location to an accuracy of 10cm. (A typical GPS in a car is accurate to about 5 metres.) This has enabled the vessels to produce a detailed "tapestry of the sea bed," according to Rob Luijnenburg of Fugro. It reveals a dramatic subsea environment. In one place, near Broken Ridge, the depth is 600 metres but in a short distance falls away to 6,600 metres.

Tow fishing

The towfish will be trailed through the water by Fugro Equator, its sister ship Fugro Discovery, and GO Phoenix, a vessel contracted by Malaysia. The two Fugro ships will operate EdgeTech DT-1 towfish and the GO Phoenix will use a SLH ProSAS-60 (pictured above). They will be towed about 150m above the ocean floor by armoured cables through which data is transmitted to the surface.

The towfish also use multi-beam sonar but are also equipped with synthetic aperture sonar, which combines a large number of acoustic pings transmitted from the side of the vehicle to build up an image with a much higher resolution. Such equipment has been improving rapidly and the gear has already been used successfully in other locations to find aircraft wrecks from the second world war, such as a US Navy Hellcat discovered in 300 meters of water off the Californian coast at a range of 500 metres from the towfish (see picture opposite). The towfish also carry cameras and lights.

Furthermore, the Dutch ships will deploy hydrocarbon sensors based on "sniffers" used by the oil industry to detect leaks. They are sensitive enough to discover aviation fuel at just a few parts-per-billion.

The three ships have been contracted for a year to conduct the new search. If they find any wreckage from MH370, then an attempt will have to be made to locate and recover the aircraft's flight recorders. Only then might it be possible to determine how a modern airliner could vanish so mysteriously. It is not just grieving relatives who want answers, but airlines too.

IS IT REALLY DOWN THERE?

[spacemaverick]

The word (such as it is) or another theory if you will has come to our attention.  Did the pilot actually lock out his co-pilot and then cut the air supply.  Did he commit suicide?  The head of the Maylaysian police says so.

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/flight-mh370-indonesian-police-chief-general-sutarman-says-he-knows-what-happened-to-the-missing-malaysian-airlines-plane/story-fnizu68q-1227059682342

Flight MH370: Indonesian police chief General Sutarman says he knows what happened to the missing Malaysian Airlines plane

TWO people have come forward claiming they know what caused Flight MH370 to disappear without a trace.
Indonesia's police chief General Sutarman reportedly told a meeting of airline officials and senior police, "I spoke to the Malaysian Police Chief, Tun Mohammed Hanif Omar. I actually know what had actually happened with MH370."

Indonesian news organisation Kompas.com reported General Sutarman's comments were witnessed by a number of high-ranking police officers and Lion Air representatives.
It is not clear when the claims were made.

The astonishing comments have sparked concern that officials have always known what caused the Malaysian Airlines plane to vanish six months ago with 239 passengers and crew on board.
Inspector General of Police in Malaysia, Khalid Abu Bakar, said he was shocked at General Sutarman's statement and promised to question him.

The news comes as an aviation expert claimed MH370's pilot, Zaharie Ahmad Shah, was responsible for the plane's disappearance.
Ewan Wilson, the head of Kiwi Airlines, believes Ahmad Shah killed himself and his passengers by switching off the on board oxygen supply.

Wilson claims "mentally ill" Ahmad Shah locked his copilot, Fariq Hamid, out of the cockpit, depressurised the cabin and shut down all communications before turning the plane around.

"Ahmad Shah was a man known for his methodical, thorough nature, for his love of the technical, and probably for his ego, too," Wilson told The Mirror.

"This (crash) would have been his final sad act to his family and to the world: 'find this one'."
Wilson, a commercial pilot, made the sensational claims in a new book "Goodnight Malaysian 370" — named after Ahmad Shah's last broadcast to air traffic control.

Wilson's book, penned with New Zealand journalist Geoff Taylor, took four months to research.
No trace of the plane has been found.

A new search for the Boeing 777, which was flying from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing when it disappeared, is set to be launched next month.

Does he know something that the rest of the PTB do not want to bring out?

[Amaterasu]

Well, that would be useful to claim to take focus off the Rothschild patent interests.  I'm sure it was a lone gunman...er...rogue pilot.   

[Sinny]

Oh, are people still looking for this plane?

I'm still looking for the one that hit the Pentagon

[spacemaverick]

Oh, are people still looking for this plane?

I'm still looking for the one that hit the Pentagon

I believe we shall never know the truth in either case.  A little off topic but I believe a cruise missile or an A3 Skywarrior hit the Pentagon.  As for MH 370...hard telling.  We have so much technology to monitor each other but we can't find a huge plane.  Someone knows something in both instances and is not saying IMHO.

[Pimander]

Someone knows something in both instances and is not saying IMHO.

Several governments but especially the USA one would almost certainly have known where the flight was when it disappeared.  Satellite tracking anyone?

[sky otter]

maverick

or anyone interested

check this out when you have time.. a really good production from nova
I just watched it and it was  good



Why Planes Vanish

Can new technology prevent aircraft like Flight MH370 from disappearing without a trace?   Aired October 8, 2014 on PBS



http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/space/why-planes-vanish.html

[spacemaverick]

maverick

or anyone interested

check this out when you have time.. a really good production from nova
I just watched it and it was  good





Why Planes Vanish

Can new technology prevent aircraft like Flight MH370 from disappearing without a trace?   Aired October 8, 2014 on PBS



http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/space/why-planes-vanish.html

Aha...a question...With the keyhole satellite watching the region I believe someone knows what happened.  Certain aspects have been classified.  There have been planes and even ships that have disappeared without a trace but it seems if they can track a cell phone they should be able to track a huge airliner.  Give me a few days to dig for some information.  Hopefully someone else will chime in on this.  At this point they are beginning to start the search that may take a year or more.  I have been watching hoping something would be newsworthy to put on here but it may be a while.  Thanks sky!

[sky otter]

maverick

those questions were covered quite well  so if you watch it I think you will find it interesing..

some may know how they figured out what they did .. I knew some of it.. but they go thur the steps  that were taken and it was very interesting...especially the satelite info .and how the radar systems fit in and where the gaps are...Canada has the new system and they explained it well
.also towards the end they talked about what needs to be done for improvement in the system
while it doesn't answer every single theory it did a good job on most of them, I thought

[spacemaverick]

maverick

those questions were covered quite well  so if you watch it I think you will find it interesing..

some may know how they figured out what they did .. I knew some of it.. but they go thur the steps  that were taken and it was very interesting...especially the satelite info .and how the radar systems fit in and where the gaps are...Canada has the new system and they explained it well
.also towards the end they talked about what needs to be done for improvement in the system
while it doesn't answer every single theory it did a good job on most of them, I thought

I shall do that Sky...thank you.