Malaysia flight 370 Where is it?

[spacemaverick]

Well now let's see...nothing directly on MH-370 but.......Mh-370 down and gone without a trace.  a person that was in opposition to the current government and leader being jailed and taken out of the picture.  The pilot of MH-370 was an avid supporter of the opposition leader that was jailed.  He had also criticized how MH-370 was being handled etc....then a helicopter with current leaders aide on board along with former envoy to US on board explodes and kills all.  Now comes this with Pakistan Taliban taking credit for the downing of a helicopter.  This helicopter had some high level people on board.  All these cannot be a coincidence. 

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/islamabad/09-May-2015/two-ambassadors-among-seven-killed-in-gilgit-helicopter-crash

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/helicopter-crash-in-pakistan-kills-6-including-norway-philippines-envoys/2015/05/08/034c75ba-f568-11e4-b2f3-af5479e6bbdd_story.html

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/pakistan/Two-envoys-killed-as-Pakistan-Taliban-claim-they-brought-down-air-force-chopper/articleshow/47209712.cms

Non-aligned Muslim countries being hit?  Are these connected?  There has been political turmoil inside Malaysia but did it rise to taking out all these people or some greater human power taking out leaders and the wives of leaders.  A Malaysian ambassadors wife was on board.  It is still hard to put all this together.  I'm still digging ......

[ArMaP]

I was looking for news about that helicopter crash (I heard about it the day it happened) but couldn't find it, thanks for posting it.

PS: I think it can be a coincidence.

[spacemaverick]

I was looking for news about that helicopter crash (I heard about it the day it happened) but couldn't find it, thanks for posting it.

PS: I think it can be a coincidence.

http://sputniknews.com/asia/20150404/1020477553.html

Here is one link ArMap...This one exploded but it is rumured the oher was shot down.

[spacemaverick]

UPDATE......

http://www.news.com.au/technology/online/a-man-claimed-he-altered-the-course-of-a-flight-after-hacking-the-in-flight-entertainment-system/story-fnjwnj25-1227358053541



AN AMERICAN researcher has claimed he altered the course of an aeroplane after hacking its in-flight entertainment system.

Chris Roberts, a respected cybersecurity professional with One World Labs, had his computers seized and was taken in for questioning by the FBI after he posted a tweet on board a United Airlines flight.

The tweet, since deleted, was apparently in jest and saw Roberts suggest he could tap into the aircraft's crew alert system and cause passenger oxygen masks to drop.

According to a warrant application obtained by Wired, Mr Roberts claimed he had hacked the in-flight entertainment systems on 15 to 20 flights between 2011 and 2014.

"[Roberts] stated that he thereby caused one of the aeroplane engines to climb resulting in a lateral or sideways movement of the plane during one of these flights," FBI agent Mark Hurley wrote.
Roberts was able to gain access to the access to the in-flight system after prying open the electronics box under his seat before connecting his laptop via an Ethernet cable.

It was here he was able to scan the network for security flaws and monitor communications from the cockpit.

Since the affidavit has been made public, a number of security researchers have taken to twitter to slam the hacker.  "I find it really hard to believe but if that is the case he deserves going to jail," wrote Jaime Blasco, director of AlienVault Labs in a tweet.  "You cannot promote the (true) idea that security research benefits humanity while defending research that endangered hundreds of innocents," wrote Alex Stamos, chief information security officer of Yahoo.  Mr Roberts said he was concerned that the warrant application had been made public.  "My biggest concern is obviously with the multiple conversations that I had with the authorities," he told Wired.

"I'm obviously concerned those were held behind closed doors and apparently they're no longer behind closed doors."

He said one paragraph in the affidavit regarding his alleged hacking of the United Airlines flight had been taken out of context.

"That paragraph that's in there is one paragraph out of a lot of discussions, so there is context that is obviously missing which obviously I can't say anything about," he said.

"It would appear from what I've seen that the federal guys took one paragraph out of a lot of discussions and a lot of meetings and notes and just chose that one as opposed to plenty of others."

Video on the site....

[spacemaverick]

http://www.economist.com/blogs/gulliver/2015/05/hacking-aircraft

Well the man that hacked the aircraft and was taken off the flight is now helping the FBI find the weaknesses in aircraft systems.  I guess it takes someone to put it right in the authorities face to make them look.  Besides, they may have thought it was better to have him on their side though I doubt that he just wanted a job and the visibility.

Will there be changes to aircraft systems...it will be interesting to follow this.

Excerpt from article

The tweet in question (above) suggests Mr Roberts intended to interfere with the Engine Indication Crew Alerting System (EICAS), which informs the crew when something goes amiss with a plane's engine. Or perhaps he wanted to deploy the passenger oxygen masks. Unsurprisingly, he is now helping the FBI with their enquiries. His actions have animated the debate about so-called "cyberjacking"—the ability to take control of aircraft remotely, or interfere with aircraft systems for malicious purposes. How seriously should such claims be taken?

Thoughts?

[spacemaverick]

How much is too much in the search for MH 370?  Should they stop or continue.  Some say that the cost are overwhelming.  Some say they are looking in the wrong place.  Some say that the search is like trying to mow fields of wheat with just a lawnmower.

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-search-is-the-most-expensive-mission-in-aviation-history/story-fnizu68q-1227373927698

"I'M not an Australian taxpayer, but if I was, I would be very mad to see money being spent like that."
Experts have raised concerns over the handling of the Australian-led search mission of Flight MH370, now the most expensive mission in aviation history.  News Corp's National Aviation Writer Robyn Ironside reports that "to date, about $60 million has been spent on the search with Australia and Malaysia splitting the cost.  "Both countries have committed another $50 million towards the search effort, and recovery — should the aircraft be found."

quote from the article....

[astr0144]

The Search For Missing Malaysian Flight MH370 Could Be Over.

MH370 Search Area Will Not Be Extended Any Further, Australian Officials Confirm.

Investigators will not expand the search zone for missing Malaysian Flight MH370, Australian officials announced on Wednesday.

The hunt for the plane, which vanished with 239 people on board more than a year ago, will not continue beyond the current area unless specific new leads are uncovered.



The aircraft disappeared while en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

In April, officials announced they would be doubling the area by a further 60,000 square kilometres if the Boeing 777 was not found by May.

This led to search teams scouring parts of the remote southern Indian Ocean.

Last month, crews made a "fascinating", albeit unexpected find when they stumbled upon debris from an 19th century cargo ship.

But on Wednesday the Australian-led Joint Agency Coordination Centre (JACC) confirmed that the search area will not be expended any further.

A statement on the JACC's website said: "As announced in April, the search area has been expanded beyond an original 60,000 square kilometre search area to enable up to 120,000 square kilometres to be searched if required.

"In the absence of credible new information that leads to the identification of a specific location of the aircraft, governments have agreed that there will be no further expansion of the search area."

More than 50,000 square kilometres of the seafloor have been searched so far and crews are conscious of the impending poor weather conditions when winter hits the region in a few weeks.


Investigators are concerned about the weather conditions when winter hits, image from Australian Transport Safety Bureau document

"Safety of the search crews, as always, remains a priority and vessels and equipment utilised will vary to reflect operational needs, particularly during winter months.

"Upon completion of the current swing, the current contract with Phoenix International will expire and GO Phoenix will cease search operations and transit to Singapore. This will occur near the end of June," JACC said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/06/03/mh370-search-area-not-extended_n_7502248.html?utm_hp_ref=uk&ir=UK&ref=yfp

[spacemaverick]

I was wondering when they were going to wind this down.  I wish they would at least take a look around the Maldives but I guess they won't.  This is a mystery that will not soon be solved.  I still have a problem with absolutely nothing found floating anywhere.  Even if the plane was gently landed (ditched) on the water and went down in one piece.  Water pressure would implode the fuselage and out comes debris.  That is the only thing that makes me think that it was hijacked somehow and taken somewhere.  Maybe far out thinking but that is my thoughts.

[Pimander]

The US military know when it disappeared and where in my opinion but perhaps they are hiding their capability?

[astr0144]

Mathematician May Have Just Solved The Mystery Of Missing Flight MH370.

This may be another possibility, or it could also become another suggestion for a alternative  optional cover up. 

Computer simulation could explain where missing Boeing 777 is.



A mathematics professor may have solved the mystery of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370, which disappeared without trace last year with 239 people on board.

Conspiracy theorists have suggested various outlandish theories including the idea that the flight was abducted by aliens.

But the reality may be a little more prosaic, according to applied mathematician Dr Goong Chen of Texas A&M University.

His computer models suggest that the flight entered a vertical dive over the Indian Ocean, entering the water cleanly and without breaking up.

The simulated crash solves some of the mysteries surrounding MH370 - such as the lack of debris and spilled oil on the surface.

Dr Chen suggests that the plane's body and wings sank rapidly - explaining the lack of an oil slick on the surface.

Dr Chen says, 'The true final moments of MH370 are likely to remain a mystery until someday when its black box is finally recovered and decoded.

'But forensics strongly supports that MH370 plunged into the ocean in a nosedive.


https://uk.news.yahoo.com/mathematician-may-have-just-solved-the-mystery-of-missing-flight-mh370-080302293.html#p1PBDqZ

[08rubicon]

   Of course..that explains it..Wonder how it happened that the aircraft
plunged vertically into the water at a speed slow enough that it did not
crack even a wing, and fast enough that it sank before anyone could excape.
This is more believable than aliens? I say B.S. however anything is possible.
   rubicon

[spacemaverick]

"His computer models suggest that the flight entered a vertical dive over the Indian Ocean, entering the water cleanly and without breaking up."

This is the only issue I would have with that.  If it went into a vertical dive...it would break up and would not sink without floating debris.  However...if it went into a controlled ditch which pilots are trained for then it does become a possibility it landed on the water much like the airliner which ditched on the Potomac with Captain Sullenberger.

If it did land in the water intact and sunk...then why did the automatic beacons not go off.  But the only issue I have is the vertical dive.

[spacemaverick]

If the aircraft did sink intact then we must assume that the passengers were already dead and could not escape because if the doors were open then we once again would have debris and bodies.  If it sank intact then at a certain depth the fuselage would have imploded unless pressure was equal inside and outside the fuselage.  (That would mean the plane was filled with water)  So many questions...but it is another theory!  Nice find....

[zorgon]

   Of course..that explains it..Wonder how it happened that the aircraft
plunged vertically into the water at a speed slow enough that it did not
crack even a wing, and fast enough that it sank before anyone could excape.
This is more believable than aliens? I say B.S. however anything is possible.
   rubicon

Well don't you know that TODAY's airplanes are different?  They seem to VANISH without a trace... look at the Twin Towers, the Pentagon  that Pennsylvania field  All VANISHED  No debris no bodies no luggage

[RUSSO]

They seem to VANISH without a trace... look at the Twin Towers, the Pentagon  that Pennsylvania field  All VANISHED  No debris no bodies no luggage

They could solve all the aviation crash troubles just applying a simple measure. Make all the planes with the same materials they do passports, since we all know they are indestructible, right?