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Malaysia flight 370 Where is it?

Started by spacemaverick, March 11, 2014, 05:14:08 AM

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spacemaverick

Quote from: Sinny on April 14, 2016, 02:47:29 PM
I've heard that the framework of MH370 was actually incorporated into MH17.

I'll expand later if I can.

Now that is an interesting little tidbit......
From the past into the future any way I can...Educating...informing....guiding.

Sinny

All my info is coming in from Abel Danger.

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MH370 - BOEING UNINTERRUPTIBLE AUTOPILOT - 5 Critical Questions - Sir Tim Clark - Don't Be Surpised to Lose Another B777

MH370 went missing 8 March, 2014. On the following day I published a youTube titled:

BOEING UNINTERRUPTIBLE AUTOPILOT


Note date published was 9 March, 2014. Days later, "Malaysia" called me to come to Kuala Lumpur to explain this to government and MAS personnel. I flew out of Minneapolis on Delta 58 to Amsterdam where I boarded MH17 for onward journey to Malaysia. I was in Malaysia 17-20 April, 2014. I returned to Minneapolis via MH16 to AMS and a Delta flight to MSP. In June when CEO Tim Clark asked publicly for an explanation of MH370's whereabouts I answered CEO Clark with this video...



...titled CEO Tim Clark of Emirate-5 Critical Questions. On March 30th I advised Malaysia, in writing, that if they did not report the BUAP and ATI they should not be surprised to lose another B777 before 1900 hours, 17 July. Before that deadline, MH17 went down in Ukraine.

Field McConnell
http://www.abeldanger.net/2014/10/mh370-boeing-uninterruptible-autopilot.html

I've been busy piecing a 9/11 time line together from the Abel Danger info, and I'm just about to embark to creating timelines for MH370 & MH17. As at the moment, Abel Dangers information is spread across numerous posts and video's.

Field McConnell is creating a book series which will no doubt out line the timeline's I'm going to turn my hands too.. But I'm not patient enough to wait.

"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society"- JFK

spacemaverick

Oh boy, here is a new wrinkle:

http://jeffwise.net/2016/04/14/mh370-debris-was-planted-ineptly/



In the weeks since MH370 debris began washing up in the Western Indian Ocean, I've struggled to understand the condition in which they were found. Particularly baffling were the three that washed ashore in Mozambique and South Africa, which were almost completely clean and free of marine fouling. I've talked to a number of marine biologists who study organisms that grow on floating debris, and they told me that given their pristine appearance these pieces couldn't have floated for more than a few weeks.

Some observers have suggested that perhaps the objects had failed to pick up significant fouling because they drifted through waters that were too cold or low in nutrients, but further examination showed that this could not be the explanation.

One commenter on this blog suggested that the pieces were too shallow, or too small, to permit the growth of Lepas barnacles. This, too, is an unsuitable explanation, since Lepas can grow on bits of floating debris that are as small as a few centimeters across. The photograph above shows a small but vibrant community growing on a piece of pumice spewed from a volcano in Tonga; the largest Lepas (goose barnacle) in the image is 23 mm long.

In acknowledging the very obvious problem that this lack of biofouling presents, David Griffin of the Australian government's science agency, CSIRO, has written (referring to the first Mozambique piece) that "this item is not heavily encrusted with sea life, so it has probably spent a significant length of time either weathering in the sun and/or washing back and forth in the sand at this or some other location. The time at sea is therefore possibly much less than the 716 days that have elapsed since 14 March 2014, and the path taken may have been two or more distinct segments."

(above text taken directly from the article)

See the rest of the story at the above link....an interesting piece to be sure.
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Just Looking

With regard to the faint signals that led people to think that it went South could these signals actually have been from small drones, or even balloons, sent up from submarine(s)?

Probably silly but IMHO not much sillier than some ideas I have read on the internet.

spacemaverick

I'm going to dig some more and see what I can find related to any progress.  It's been 2 years.
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spacemaverick

https://www.atsb.gov.au/mh370-pages/updates/reports/

From the Australian Transport Safety Bureau

On the site they have a PDF file with a report on the 2 parts found in Mozambique.

The two parts are from Aircraft registered as 9M-MRO operating as MH 370. 

Identification
Part No. 1
The first part was initially identified from a number stencilled on the part (676EB), as a segment
from a Boeing 777 flap track fairing (Fairing No. 7) from the right wing (Figure 1). All measurable
dimensions, materials, construction and other identifiable features conformed to the applicable
Boeing drawings for the identified fairing.

The 676EB stencil font and colour was not original from manufacture, but instead conformed to
that developed and used by MAB during painting operations (Figure 2). The part had been
repainted, which was consistent with MAB maintenance records for 9M-MRO.

Part No. 2
The second part was primarily identified from images showing the materials, construction and "NO
STEP" stencil, as a segment of a Boeing 777 RH horizontal stabilizer panel (Figure 3). All
measurable dimensions, materials, construction and other identifiable features conformed to the
Boeing drawings for the stabiliser panel.

The part was marked on the upper surface in black paint with "NO STEP". The font and location of
the stencil were not original from manufacture, however the stencilling was consistent with that
developed and used by Malaysian Airlines (Figure 4).

A single fastener was retained in the part. The fastener head markings identified it as being
correct for use on the stabiliser panel assembly. The markings also identified the fastener
manufacturer. That manufacturer's fasteners were not used in current production, but did match
the fasteners used in assembly of the aircraft next in the production line (405) to 9M-MRO (404)

You can see the figures themselves at the link.  I think it is safe to say that this aircraft came apart but that is just my opinion.
From the past into the future any way I can...Educating...informing....guiding.

Sinny

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Cobra Gold is an Asia-Pacific military exercise held in Thailand every year. It is the largest Asia-Pacific military exercise held each year, and is among the largest multinational military exercise in which the United States participates.

Cobra Gold was first held in 1982. It served as military training exercise to improve coordination between the armed forces of the United States and Thailand in both hostile military and humanitarian efforts.[1] It also had the goal of strengthening ties between the U.S. and Thailand, the oldest ally of the United States in the South Asia region.[2] More recently, Cobra Gold has served a humanitarian mission, as military personnel deliver health care to the local Thai population, and as a testing ground for new battlefield technologies such as solar powered weaponry.[2]

As of 2014, Cobra Gold has three distinct activities. The first is the Combined Arms Live Fire Exercise (CALFEX), in which live ammunition is aimed at predetermined locations. Troops then assault a beach and landing zone while this live fire occurs. Any miscalculation in the placement, explosive power, or timing of the live fire could be deadly. The second activity is a Command Post Exercise (CPX), in which military officers engage in computerized wargames, disaster relief, or humanitarian missions over several days. The final activity is assisting the local Thai population.[3]

Cobra Gold has expanded to include 35 nations as of 2016,Feb 17,[4] including Indonesia, Japan, Malaysia, Singapore, South Korea, and other South Asian and Pacific Ocean countries. China was admitted to Cobra Gold exercises for the first time in 2015 as well, although Chinese military forces were only allowed to participate in humanitarian assistance training.[1] Most nations participate in Cobra Gold as observers rather than participants.[5]

Recent Cobra Gold exercises[edit]
Participants in Cobra Gold 2013 included the United States, Indonesia, Japan, Malaysia, Singapore, South Korea, and Thailand. Twenty other nations participated in observer status. For the first time, Burma joined the exercise (as an observer). Exercises held during Cobra Gold 2013 included an amphibious landing involving ground assault fighter jets, attack helicopters, and landing craft; mock military raids involving small boats and helicopters; a practice evacuation involving civilian populations; a combined arms exercise held while live fire occurred overhead and nearby; and training in biological, chemical, jungle, nuclear, and radiological warfare.[6]

Admiral Samuel J. Locklear III, commander of the United States Pacific Command, described Cobra Gold as "the Pacific's signature exercise" in 2014, and noted that it was among the largest multinational military exercise in which U.S. armed forces participate.[5]

The United States reduced its participation in Cobra Gold 2015 to signal its disapproval of the military coup which occurred in Thailand in 2014. The U.S. sent 3,600 troops to the exercise, down from 4,300 in 2014.[1] The U.S. also cancelled the exercise in which troops practiced under live fire during an amphibious landing. However, American military forces did participate in a civilian evacuation training exercise, and the operation of U.S. troops in formation in the field in cooperation with the military forces of other nations.[1] Nevertheless, more than 13,000 military personnel from six nations actively participated in Cobra Gold 2015, while other nations participated as observers.[4]

The United States postponed its participation in a March 2015 meeting with Thailand to begin planning for Cobra Gold 2016. American military officials indicated they might cancel the exercise outright as a protest against continuing military rule in Thailand.[4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobra_Gold

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Global Peace Operations Initiative (GPOI)

GPOI is a U.S. Government-funded security assistance program intended to enhance international capacity to effectively conduct United Nations and regional peace support operations (PSOs) by building partner country capabilities to train and sustain peacekeeping proficiencies; increasing the number of capable military troops and formed police units (FPUs) available for deployment; and facilitating the preparation, logistical support, and deployment of military units and FPUs to PSOs.

GPOI was launched as the U.S. contribution to the broader G8 Action Plan for Expanding Global Capability for Peace Support Operations, adopted at the 2004 G8 Sea Island Summit. Initially proposed as a five-year program (fiscal years 2005-2009), GPOI's mandate was renewed for a second five-year period (fiscal years 2010-2014). The primary objectives for the program's first five years (Phase I) included training 75,000 peacekeepers and building regional capacity to conduct peacekeeping operations. In Phase II, program emphasis has shifted from the direct training of peacekeepers to assisting partner country efforts to build sustainable, indigenous peacekeeping training capacity.

GPOI is funded through the Peacekeeping Operations (PKO) account, which is managed by the U.S. Department of State's Bureau of Political-Military Affairs.

The program has a substantial metrics and evaluation component which is guided by the following outcome-oriented considerations: actual deployments, effectiveness in PSOs, improvement of capacities, and self-sufficiency.

http://www.state.gov/t/pm/ppa/gpoi/


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#MH370 – Connecting the Dots to Two Major Military Exercises?

Multilateral Military Exercise – Cope Tiger 2014

3/11/2014 – KORAT ROYAL THAI AIR FORCE BASE, Thailand — Aviation and ground units from the U.S. Air Force, the Royal Thai Air Force, Navy and Army, and the Republic of Singapore Air Force is participating in the Cope Tiger 2014 Field Training Exercise (FTX) in Thailand March 10-21.

More than 760 personnel will participate in the exercise, including approximately 160 U.S. service members and 600 service members from Thailand and Singapore.

The FTX will involve a combined total of 76 aircraft and 42 air defense units, including 10 U.S. F-15C/D aircraft, and 15 F-16s, six JAS-39s, six F-5s, five ALPHA JETs, six L-39s, one C-130, one BELL 412, and one UH-1H from the Royal Thai Air Force. The Republic of Singapore Air Force will deploy eight F-16s, six F-15SGs, six F-5s, one G550, one KC-135, and two AS332 to the exercise.  – Pacific Air Forces



obra Gold 2014 – Mass Launch.

US military exercises in Asia meant to send a signal to China, say experts

Before the MH370 incident

FORT RICHARDSON, Alaska –  The Pentagon has airmailed Beijing a belated and unsubtle message for the recent Chinese New Year – by parachuting in Pacific combat troops into the Asia Pacific.

After more than a decade of wars in the Middle East, 2014 is the year in which the U.S. officially starts re-orientating its military focus to Asia as Washington aims to counter the military build-up by China.



Please read the article below in relation to MH 370 and the two above videos on the multi-lateral military exercises carried out by the United States, Singapore and Thailand, Cope Tiger 2014 & Cobra Gold 2014:

MH 370 – A Sinister Tragedy In the Fog of
Coincidence?


Some strange parallels with catastrophic consequences
By Matthias Chang – Future FastForward
April 1st, 2014


http://futurefastforward.com/images/stories/featurearticles/MH_370_Coincidence.pdf
https://peoplestrustmalaysia.wordpress.com/2014/04/04/mh370-connecting-the-dots-to-two-major-military-exercises/
"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society"- JFK

spacemaverick

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/12/mh370-s-cabin-was-torn-apart-on-impact-new-debris-shows.html

MH370's Cabin Was Torn Apart on Impact, New Debris Shows

With two new pieces 'almost certainly' from the jet, we have the first indication that at least part of the cabin did not go to the bottom of the sea immediately.

The Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) has announced that examination carried out by Geoscience Australia of the two latest pieces of debris to be discovered, the piece from a closet door and part of a Rolls Royce logo from an engine cowling, has matched them with parts specific to the Malaysian 777.

Slowly piece by piece a picture is emerging however the location and the cause may never be revealed.  For more complete information go to the link above.
From the past into the future any way I can...Educating...informing....guiding.



robomont

ive never been much for rules.
being me has its priviledges.

Dumbledore

spacemaverick

Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB), now saying that search has been in the wrong area after all this time.  The report recommended that, based on new analysis, a new area to the northeast of the current search area should be searched, approximately 25,000 square kilometers.

http://fox6now.com/2016/12/20/mh370-searchers-almost-certainly-looking-in-the-wrong-place-report-says/

Well, that was a lot of money based on faulty analysis.
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spacemaverick

UPDATE FROM AUSTRALIA;

Quest for MH370 answers far from over as Boeing predicted to take over search.

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/quest-for-mh370-answers-far-from-over-as-boeing-predicted-to-take-over-search/news-story/67f2b90d55e36fdf6aa3a5b1fa1981d6

The question I see here is why would Boeing step in?

Questions also asked by pilots are why did the Australian government just go with a pilotless aircraft (or not pilot controlled because of one reason or another.  (video included with this article.
From the past into the future any way I can...Educating...informing....guiding.

rdunk

According to this new report, the search for MH370 has ended/been suspended, as announced by the "Joint Agency Coordination Center" in Australia. 

SYDNEY (AP) — The nearly three-year search for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 ended Tuesday, possibly forever — not because investigators have run out of leads, but because the countries involved in the expensive and vast deep-sea hunt have shown no appetite for opening another big phase.

Late last year, as ships with high-tech search equipment covered the last strips of the 120,000-square kilometer (46,000-square mile) search zone, experts concluded they should have been searching a smaller area immediately to the north. But by then, $160 million had already been spent by Malaysia, Australia and China, who had agreed over the summer not to search elsewhere without pinpoint evidence.

The transport ministers of those countries reiterated that decision Tuesday in the joint communique issued by the Joint Agency Coordination Center in Australia that announced the search for Flight 370 — and the 239 people aboard the aircraft — had been suspended.


More: http://www.breitbart.com/news/mh370-hunt-ends-maybe-forever-after-nearly-3-years-160m/

Irene

People will think I'm an arschloch, but they should have called it off a long time ago.

Trying to search such a huge area of nothing but ocean is ridiculous. I know it's an emotional issue, but logic should really prevail.

Searching for years is like sympathy CPR on a corpse - it may make the families feel better, but you're sucking and pounding on an obvious corpse.
Shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods.....