The case for the civilization on the Moon

[The Seeker]

Armap, old friend, if you read the accounts and reports from the deliberate crashing of that craft into the lunar surface, the report states that " it rang like a bell", not an anvil. implying that it is not solid...

perhaps we will find out soon...


seeker

[Amaterasu]

Armap, old friend, if you read the accounts and reports from the deliberate crashing of that craft into the lunar surface, the report states that " it rang like a bell", not an anvil. implying that it is not solid...

perhaps we will find out soon...


seeker

For a long while, at that.  Solid things don'r keep reverberating for long periods of time...  Just sayin'.

[ArMaP]

ArMaP, have you never struck a steel anvil"?

Yes.

And it did reverberated for some time. The biggest difference is that anvils are usually placed in a way that is not that good at letting them reverberate (they are not supposed to be used to make music, although it would make for an interesting band ), so the reverberating gets attenuated. If you place a bell on a table, will it ring "like a bell"? No, because there's something preventing it from doing that, for a bell to reverberate like a bell it needs to be as free from contact with anything as possible, that's why they are usually suspended.

I don't know where people got the idea that for something to reverberate "like a bell" it must be hollow. A tuning fork, for example, is not hollow. Cymbals are not hollow.

If you strike a large stone with a hammer you can ear it reverberate for some time.

[ArMaP]

Solid things don'r keep reverberating for long periods of time...

They really do, just try it for yourself.

[Amaterasu]

They really do, just try it for yourself.

I'll take Your word for it... 

[sky otter]

apologizes in advance..



and of course..the anvil chorus..



tiptoeing away now

[ArMaP]

apologizes in advance..

Thanks for that, it's a perfect example of what I was saying.

[The Seeker]

Armap I think we are a little off track and missing the mark here; yes, an anvil will resonate; but the moon, if it is a solid chunk of rock and dirt, shouldn't; but it did...


seeker

[ArMaP]

Armap I think we are a little off track and missing the mark here; yes, an anvil will resonate;

Why does it resonate? Because there's nothing to slow the vibration induced by the hammer. If it's on a table, the table will vibrate, but some of the vibrations will be absorbed by the contact between the anvil and the table.

but the moon, if it is a solid chunk of rock and dirt, shouldn't;

Why? A solid rock vibrates when hit. If the Moon was only made of dirt it wouldn't resonate, by a solid rock would.

[bobathome]

And it could have been placed there,
perfectly,
as the watcher.
A little battered.
but hey that was quite the show she put on the other night.

small thinking,its a Galaxy out there.
Team work, too perfection,what are the odds,
in a Galaxy this big,

[rdunk]

Thanks for that, it's a perfect example of what I was saying.

Not really a good example at all. An anvil is not useful for an anvil, unless it is hard mounted. Strike when it is hard mounted, and see if you get the same action.

Also doesn't have the solid look of any anvil I have seen! A true anvil is one solid piece of steel. The anvil in the video even sounds hollow, as it is struck. ?

[bobathome]

not sure if this applies,
when the monks version of accounts was given too nasa, of the whack the moon took,
it was still vibrating,
measurements were taken,
lasers remember,would be able too measure, vibrations,
anyway, was confirmed.
the monks account.

[ArMaP]

Not really a good example at all. An anvil is not useful for an anvil, unless it is hard mounted.

Is the Moon "hard mounted"?

Also doesn't have the solid look of any anvil I have seen! A true anvil is one solid piece of steel. The anvil in the video even sounds hollow, as it is struck. ?

Get an iron box and an iron block, then struck both. Which one rings better?

PS: Maybe the Moon is related to the ringing rocks, maybe those olivine diabase rocks. 

[Pimander]

The mass of the Moon indicates that it is unlikely to be completely hollow.  It might be partly hollow but can't be completely hollow or its mass would be smaller and it's orbital position would be closer to Earth.

[undo11]

The mass of the Moon indicates that it is unlikely to be completely hollow.  It might be partly hollow but can't be completely hollow or its mass would be smaller and it's orbital position would be closer to Earth.

unless it's being kept in that orbit, artifically.  you have to admit, it has alot of unusual features relating to orbit, rotation and etc.