Jim Oberg's "99 FAQs About Space UFO Videos"

[Martyn Stubbs]

Hold on Jim..starting at the beginning of the astronauts frenzied search for the tether as ground control demands they find it,

the camera appears to show stationary stars... when suddenly an astronaut shouts we have the tether..etc.,& the camera jolts down a bit & there is the broken tether & swarming UFOs..critters & organic craft (in my opinion)

These moving objects only appeared as the camera panned to the tether, nearly 100 miles away.

None of this was supposed to happen. It was a short experiment that had the camera shots pre determined...until it BROKE! Otherwise NASA would never have let the video be seen, but they now had no 'eyes' on it so they went video hunting & we got to see UFOs.

I read all the NASA releases re earlier checks to see how plasma would react etc... & so what! On my tapes they cut away when these tests are supposed to be happening.

From my discovery of this video in 1996 until 1999 even Jim had not seen the video & NASA was mum until I posted it on March 11 2000.

Jim..it's all documented in Sereda's book "Evidence: the case for NASA UFOs."

Then we get back to escaping energy & what it attracted 100 miles away.

[zorgon]

But surely the UFO's are large (?)

Dang  just had a long answer and lost it   Yes they would be large...  but let's forget the STS75 for a minute and look at the STS 80 ones. Since the one comes out of the clouds we can gauge an approximate size. I don't have the math but I am sure someone here can do that  We know it is not a small ice particle because of the distance from the camera (ie just above the clouds)  As I recall someone estimated it as 1.5 mile diameter but I would have to check

ETA: Just read Jims post. Light reflecting, or light emitting, what are you stating the UFO's are?

Yeah I just saw that too   Interesting slip

Re: "No apparent reports"

Trevor was the firts to mention Plasma Critters as a possibility in the 50's but anyone that knows how to do a google search can see today how this idea is catching on not only in the UFO circles (slowly) but in main stream scientific circles as well (very quickly)

Do a google search for

PLASMA LIFE FORMS  and PLASMA LIFE FORMS IN SPACE

Here are just a few headlines...

Physicists Discover Inorganic Dust With Lifelike Qualities
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/08/070814150630.htm

Hot Gas in Space Mimics Life
http://www.space.com/4219-hot-gas-space-mimics-life.html

Airborne Anomalies: Rethinking Atmospheric Lifeforms ...
http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2011/02/airborne-anomalies-rethinking-atmospheric-lifeforms/

Cosmic Dust Clouds Point to Non-Carbon Life Forms
http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2011/11/inorganic-cosmic-dust-points-to-non-carbon-life-forms.html

For you Brits

Boffins simulate plasma-eating dusty 'life-forms' • The Register
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/08/13/dusty_life_forms/

A Paper - PDF
Dark Plasma Life Forms - Scientific Journals International
http://www.scientificjournals.org/Journals2011/articles/1502.pdf

Plasma based life - Electromagnetic Life| WeirdSciences
http://bruceleeeowe.wordpress.com/tag/plasma-based-life/

Could alien life exist in the form of DNA-shaped dust?
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn12466-could-alien-life-exist-in-the-form-of-dnashaped-dust.html

Even on ATS
Plasma-based Lifeform/Intelligence possible?
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread458268/pg1


Not hard to find reports on Plasma life forms

[ArMaP]

Jim says:  "no APPARENT record..."

He does, but I think he was talking about that specific case, pointing to many different cases doesn't help solve this one. 

[zorgon]

NASA is going PLASMA HUNTING

Critters?  Well not yet   Just high speed energetic plasma particles

The Electric Atmosphere: Plasma Is Next NASA Science Target

Plasmas seethe with complex movement. They generally flow along a skeletal structure made of invisible magnetic field lines, while simultaneously creating more magnetic fields as they move. Teasing out the rules that govern such a foreign environment – one that can only be studied from afar – lies at the heart of understanding a range of events that make up space weather, from giant explosions on the sun to potentially damaging high energy particles in near-Earth environs.

To distinguish between a host of theories developed over the years on plasma movement in those near-Earth environs, RBSP scientists have designed a suite of instruments to answer three broad questions. Where do the extra energy and particles come from? Where do they disappear to, and what sends them on their way? How do these changes affect the rest of Earth's magnetic environment, the magnetosphere? In addition to its broad range of instruments, the RBSP mission will make use of two spacecraft in order to better map out the full spatial dimensions of a particular event and how it changes over time.

Scientists want to understand not only the origins of electrified particles – possibly from the solar wind constantly streaming off the sun; possibly from an area of Earth's own outer atmosphere, the ionosphere – but also what mechanisms gives the particles their extreme speed and energy.

http://sservi.nasa.gov/articles/the-electric-atmosphere-plasma-is-next-nasa-science-target/

The wording is interesting and the timing is awesome

Lets see what they 'discover' 

[zorgon]

He does, but I think he was talking about that specific case, pointing to many different cases doesn't help solve this one. 

Why not? He uses many 'explained' (in his mind) cases  to try to explain away this one

I am making a case for CRITTERS

I am still trying to find that file I had (from Jim ) on the Plasma phenomena plaguing NASA space craft from the 60's. That would be very relevant.

Maybe you could find the post on ATS?  I think it was in the New look at STS75 thread

[ArMaP]

Why not? He uses many 'explained' (in his mind) cases  to try to explain away this one

Why not? Because bringing more variables to a problem doesn't help solve it, to solve a problem we should get more data for the same variables or split the problem in smaller, more manageable problems, not bring more data with their own variables and/or more problems that may not even be related to the one we are trying to solve.

Also, making the discussion more confusing on the basis that "the other side" does the same doesn't help either.

[JimO]

Hold on Jim..starting at the beginning of the astronauts frenzied search for the tether as ground control demands they find it,...

In your reconstructed timeline, Martyn, how long was it between the tether break and this video sequence? And was the video made in day or night conditions?

[JimO]

Dang  just had a long answer and lost it   Yes they would be large...  but let's forget the STS75 for a minute and look at the STS 80 ones. Since the one comes out of the clouds we can gauge an approximate size. ....

On what basis do you deduce the one comes out of the clouds?

What do imagine are the illumination conditions in the camera field of view. Is there sunshine anywhere, or somewhere, or nowhere, or what?

What do you suggest is the source of the object's illumination? External sunlight? Internal something?

[JimO]

As we discuss TV images from sts-75, -80, etc., it's important to aware of the operating specs of that equipment and how it performs under extreme conditions. I've placed the Mission Control console handbook for INCO position on my home page, it has information vital to interpreting these videos. Trying to do so without this information is a recipe for misinterpretation and garble.

http://www.jamesoberg.com/INCO-CHB-CCTV1.PDF
http://www.jamesoberg.com/INCO-CHB-CCTV2.PDF

[Martyn Stubbs]

Every time we get these objects, the conditions are an accident, or they are seen during an important spacewalk which had to hold it's shot.

Jim..The STS-80 was a fluke as the camera was being moved around with no particular scientific purpose..when these strange events start taking place.

The MIR search was just a rash act that went terribly wrong when the participants started calling UFOs "meteors"! It deteriorated as objects that pulsed were called the MIR & then we are told they are not..so what are they?

When a rescue operation is being demonstrated, the 2 spacewalkers suddenly point out a strange object, in front of them...which draws our attention & then a pulsating object does visually appear!

Every lighting condition is demonstrated. Every UFO appearance is not predictable.

[JimO]

Every time we get these objects, the conditions are an accident, or they are seen during an important spacewalk which had to hold it's shot......

You were describing the sts-75 tether swarm video with 'frenzied' astronauts. How soon was that after the break? And was the sun up, or down?

[JimO]

.....Jim..The STS-80 was a fluke as the camera was being moved around with no particular scientific purpose..when these strange events start taking place. .....

I thought the camera was set up for a Mesoscale Lightning Experiment run. Why do you think it was being moved around purposelessly? What do you base that on?

You did recognize the standard Mesoscale Lightning Experiment camera orientation, right?

[The Matrix Traveller]

Because spaceflight is so unfamiliar and bizarre -- literally unearthly -- I've seen most people trying to interpret videos making wrong guesses about fundamental features of what was being shown. Recently I drafted a guide to what I've learned about the space environment related to anomalous images, from my two decades in Mission Control and my lifelong fascination with UFO reports.

I'd appreciate any suggestions on what needs to be better explained, documented, or added.

Then this dictates; To really know what is taking place in this little universe, One 1st needs to know
and Understand the Environment this experience (Universe) is being presented in/through.

When Scientifically investigating anything, it is prudent to take into account the Environment,
which involves HOW your Universe is being presented to you.

In other words the Process's by which the experience (Universe) is being presented/displayed
and from WHERE !

It is incomplete to ignore this, and only adds confusion to ones interpretation of this little Universe.

[Martyn Stubbs]

zorgon...When I released the Tether footage, Trever James Constable reached out to me & called (to my surprise!) We have since spoken about his work many times & we collaborated  with TJC commenting on the Tether Incident in "The Greatest Story.." by Jose E. as well as putting a photo sequence in his new printing of "Cosmic Pulse of Life" of the Tether UFOs.

He believes some show "Living Critters"...so do I.

I see that you are very schooled on all this & that is so welcome.

This phenomenon & a detailed review of hrs. of these tapes has allowed me to see what less experienced  viewers  have missed... just think of how many people look at an unusual object & explain it away as a trick of light. (like Jim O!)

The idea of organisms consuming pure energy is not unscientific. A broken Tether 100 miles from the shuttle, bleeding Energy which is being consumed by organic UFOs. Critters, unicellular with a body composed of Plasma. TJC says his Critters range as large as miles!

Seldom seen as they usually reflect infra-red light, they sometimes are visible when they reflect visible light. TJC's Critters expand & contract as they speed through the sky. When they are luminous, some glow continually while others flash on & off.

All of TJCs words sound the same as the NASA videos continually demonstrate.

[Martyn Stubbs]

I thought the camera was set up for a Mesoscale Lightning Experiment run. Why do you think it was being moved around purposelessly? What do you base that on?

You did recognize the standard Mesoscale Lightning Experiment camera orientation, right?

The FULL segment does in fact happen as I said...they are searching & then suddenly find it.

Check the video YOU SAY NASA gave you & you will see this..so many tether posts are missing the minute before they "find" the tether.