Dark Matter and Dark Energy Mysteries: Do Neutrons Hold the Key?

[astr0144]

Dark Matter and Dark Energy Mysteries: Do Neutrons Hold the Key?

Altogether, the particles known to science make up just about 5 percent of the mass and energy of the universe. What dark matter and dark energy actually are remains a mystery, but physicists have suggested many potential explanations for both.







One candidate for dark matter is a set of particles known as axions. Theoretical physicists originally proposed axions to help solve a puzzle regarding the strong nuclear force, which binds protons and neutrons together into atomic nuclei.

A potential explanation for dark energy involves quintessence theories, named after Aristotle's "quintessence," a fifth element in addition to the four classical elements of air, fire, earth and water. These theories suggest that an unknown field that interacts with matter permeates seemingly empty space. Prominent quintessence candidates include "chameleon fields" that grow weaker around relatively dense objects such as planets and stars, potentially explaining why investigators have not detected these fields.

If new kinds of particles or additional forces of nature exist, researchers might be able to observe them anywhere, including on Earth. Neutrons are perfect for this kind of research; since they carry no electric charge, they are generally influenced only by gravity, and possibly by additional, currently unknown, particles and forces.

Scientists developed an extremely sensitive instrument to monitor the movement of neutrons in Earth's gravitational field. This method relies on neutrons cooled to minus 423 degrees Fahrenheit (minus 253 degrees Celsius), gathered from the strongest continuous source of ultra-cold neutrons in the world at the Institut Laue-Langevin in Grenoble, France.

The neutrons move at speeds of less than about 17.9 mph (28.8 km/h) in a vacuum between two horizontal plates made of a well-polished glass that reflects the particles. The researchers make the "mirrors" vibrate 280 times per second, imparting the neutrons with specific amounts of energy.

A neutron detector analyzes the energy of the neutrons as they exit from between the mirrors. The scientists know how much energy the neutrons should have while they experience the gravity of the Earth. If the scientists find any discrepancy in the energy of the neutrons, this may come from dark energy or dark matter interacting with those neutrons.

"It's like watching a bouncing ball fall and, with a new quantum technique, looking for any effects dark energy or dark matter scenarios could have," said study author Hartmut Abele, an experimental physicist at the Vienna University of Technology.

The researchers measured the effects of gravity on neutrons with a sensitivity 100,000 times greater than in previous experiments. They did not detect any deviations from Newton's well-established law of gravity.


http://news.yahoo.com/dark-matter-dark-energy-mysteries-neutrons-hold-key-113012545.html

[robomont]

I wonder too.if you think of a black hole or whatever they call it.if at the event horizon,all the protons and electrons get stripped,then all thats left is neutrons at the center.so this means neutrons are affected by gravity.
By that theory black holes may be neutron stars.
So maybe this will aid in understanding what's going on.I'm not 100% on this theory.

[astr0144]

Possibly Robo, but I am not qualified to say !

Its an interesting experiment and maybe they will discover new things with regards to the Dark Matter...

The Neutrons carry no charge and are influenced by Gravity with other possible particles and forces.

It maybe that Neutron Stars or binary Neutron stars can become black holes...

Binary neutron stars[edit]
About 5% of all known neutron stars are members of a binary system. The formation and evolution scenario of binary neutron stars is a rather exotic and complicated process.[30] The companion stars may be either ordinary stars, white dwarfs or other neutron stars. According to modern theories of binary evolution it is expected that neutron stars also exist in binary systems with black hole companions. Such binaries are expected to be prime sources for emitting gravitational waves. Neutron stars in binary systems often emit X-rays which is caused by the heating of material (gas) accreted from the companion star. Material from the outer layers of a (bloated) companion star is sucked towards the neutron star as a result of its very strong gravitational field. As a result of this process binary neutron stars may also coalesce into black holes if the accretion of mass takes place under extreme conditions.[31] It has been proposed that coalescence of binaries consisting of two neutron stars may be responsible for producing short gamma-ray bursts. Such events may also be responsible for creating all chemical elements beyond iron,[32] as opposed to the supernova nucleosynthesis theory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_star

[robomont]

As gamma rays are photons and photons are created by electrons moving from  one shell to another then a neutron star could not be the creater of elements because elements have electrons unless their is a unknown factor that causes the neutron star to explode thus allowing electrons the chance to bind with the material.
The neutron star could emit gamma though from the raw materials being sucked in and being stripped like a blackhole does.
The thing that i think is neat is how the blackhole is not a all encompassing gravity but on a plane.shaped like a saucer,which means there is a law of magnetism or some other law that is stronger than gravity.supercedes it.which means that the neutron star should be flat.only having two dimensions.
Yes you heard it first on pegasus by robomont.as far as i know.lol.

[COSMO]

First, I think we have to escape the trap of thinking that everything in the universe is particles.  There is a primary medium(it's a superfluid) that all matter and energy manifests from.  Science is calling it the Higgs Field and the Hindus call it Brahman and it is also the quantum vacuum, or ETHER as I like to call it.   If we focus on particles, then we are ignoring 95% of the "stuff" that makes up the universe.  We are creatures of the wave universe and all we can observe is the wave energy that is created when the ETHER is put in motion.  Eddies and swirls, Just like Tesla said.  We have been looking at the universe and, seeing waves, declare that the waves are the entire universe, while ignoring that universal ocean of creation.  It's is no wonder that our physics is inadequate.   

So...the quantum vacuum IS dark energy...

It is driving the expansion of the universe, is responsible for "gravity" and is the energetic dimension of time...and more!

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=6493.msg90707#msg90707





It's a fluid...fluid dynamics...

Nature's demonstration...it's the way of the ETHER...all we need to do to master it is SEE natures examples...they are all around us!

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/09/060908-dark-matter.html

Cosmo 

[Fruitbat]

Neutrons can't hold the key, even if you ignore the massive size discrepancy, they haven't got any fingers..

FB!

[robomont]

Eddies like charge particle waves?
Swirls like magnetic fields?

[Littleenki]

First, I think we have to escape the trap of thinking that everything in the universe is particles.  There is a primary medium(it's a superfluid) that all matter and energy manifests from.  Science is calling it the Higgs Field and the Hindus call it Brahman and it is also the quantum vacuum, or ETHER as I like to call it.   If we focus on particles, then we are ignoring 95% of the "stuff" that makes up the universe.  We are creatures of the wave universe and all we can observe is the wave energy that is created when the ETHER is put in motion.  Eddies and swirls, Just like Tesla said.  We have been looking at the universe and, seeing waves, declare that the waves are the entire universe, while ignoring that universal ocean of creation.  It's is no wonder that our physics is inadequate.   

So...the quantum vacuum IS dark energy...

It is driving the expansion of the universe, is responsible for "gravity" and is the energetic dimension of time...and more!

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=6493.msg90707#msg90707





It's a fluid...fluid dynamics...

Nature's demonstration...it's the way of the ETHER...all we need to do to master it is SEE natures examples...they are all around us!

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/09/060908-dark-matter.html

Cosmo

Agreed, Cosmo, all is a fluid in terms of relocation and field interactions in my personal opinion, not that neutrons cant teach us a thing or two, but reading the works of Viktor Schauberger does open a plethora of doors in the mind of the physicist, that might firstly gone unopened.

Im at  loss to say what neutrons really are, but as far as particle physics goes, they seem to hold many keys..yes Fruitbat, in the invisible fingers of their ethereal hands!

And yes, Robo, the way you describe it in your last reply...

Eddies like charge particle waves?
Swirls like magnetic fields?


I think the entirety of this issue rests in us realizing these particles, forces, and reactions in human presence shows us that it all combines into one wonderful organism that human minds will never understand...Life.

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

O wow, another philosophical thread
Bumped, to read later......nice one

[COSMO]

Eddies like charge particle waves?
Swirls like magnetic fields?

Particle waves and magnetic fields are distortions in the same medium, as is all matter and energy...and you and I!   

I call it the ETHER and it is a SUPER FLUID:

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=6666.msg92900#msg92900

Like this man said...

Man's Greatest Achievement
by Nikola Tesla
New York American — July 6, 1930
from Rastko'sNetwork Website

When a child is born its sense-organs are brought in contact with the outer world.

The waves of sound, heat, and light beat upon its feeble body, its sensitive nerve-fibres quiver, the muscles contract and relax in obedience: a gasp, a breath, and in this act a marvelous little engine, of inconceivable delicacy and complexity of construction, unlike any on earth, is hitched to the wheel-work of the Universe.

The little engine labors and grows, performs more and more involved operations, becomes sensitive to ever subtler influences and now there manifests itself in the fully developed being - Man - a desire mysterious, inscrutable and irresistible: to imitate nature, to create, to work himself the wonders he perceives.

Inspired in this task he searches, discovers and invents, designs and constructs, and enriches with monuments of beauty, grandeur and awe, the star of his birth.

He descends into the bowels of the globe to bring forth its hidden treasures and to unlock its immense imprisoned energies for its use.

He invades the dark depths of the ocean and the azure regions of the sky.

He peers into the innermost nooks and recesses of molecular structure and lays bare to his gaze worlds infinitely remote. He subdues and puts to his service the fierce, devastating spark of Prometheus, the titanic forces of the waterfall, the wind and the tide.

He tames the thundering bolt of Jove and annihilates time and space. He makes the great Sun itself his obedient toiling slave.
Such is the power and might that the heavens reverberate and the whole earth trembles by the mere sound of his voice.

What has the future in store for this strange being, born of a breath, of perishable tissue, yet immortal, with his powers fearful and divine? What magic will be wrought by him in the end? What is to be his greatest deed, his crowning achievement?

Long ago he recognized that all perceptible matter comes from a primary substance, of a tenuity beyond conception and filling all space - the Akasha or luminiferous ether - which is acted upon by the life-giving Prana or creative force, calling into existence, in never ending cycles, all things and phenomena.

The primary substance, thrown into infinitesimal whirls of prodigious velocity, becomes gross matter; the force subsiding, the motion ceases and matter disappears, reverting to the primary substance.

Can Man control this grandest, most awe-inspiring of all processes in nature? Can he harness her inexhaustible energies to perform all their functions at his bidding, more still - can he so refine his means of control as to put them in operation simply by the force of his will?

If he could do this he would have powers almost unlimited and supernatural. At his command, with but a slight effort on his part, old worlds would disappear and new ones of his planning would spring into being.

He could fix, solidify and preserve the ethereal shapes of his imagining, the fleeting visions of his dreams. He could express all the creations of his mind, on any scale, in forms concrete and imperishable.

He could alter the size of this planet, control its seasons, guide it along any path he might choose through the depths of the Universe.

He could make planets collide and produce his suns and stars, his heat and light. He could originate and develop life in all its infinite forms.

To create and annihilate material substance, cause it to aggregate in forms according to his desire, would be the supreme manifestation of the power of Man's mind, his most complete triumph over the physical world, his crowning achievement which would place him beside his Creator and fulfill his ultimate destiny.

OCR by: Varsányi Péter (Pepe)
www.tesla.hu. Verzió: 1.00
(2004-01-15)



From 1930.  We have been asleep for a long time my friends.  Now comes the awakening! 

Cosmo

[Littleenki]

asleep for too long, under a pale grey sky we shal arise.

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

Yes, and once awakened, we find ourselves to be outlaws:

[Littleenki]

Yes, and once awakened, we find ourselves to be outlaws:

Luke, youre one cool dude, Sixteen Horsepower is always Overunity!
Heres my favorite campfire song of the Outlaw...off thread, but forgive me, there is a precedent here...

darned ipad, wanted to put a link to the Outlaws: Green grass and high tides here......wouldnt work

Cheers, mate!