Scientists think there may be a wormhole in the center of our galaxy

[astr0144]

Interesting theories Cosmo.

Not sure if its a new theory suggestion on Gravity and Blackholes or if its  been considered before the new data from the LHC.

This is another related article that I found.. I like the image and its something that visually seems to connect with me.

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Chasing Wormholes: The Hunt for Tunnels in Space-Time.



Science fiction literature is full of stories in which tunnels in space-time — known as wormholes — are used for time travel. How much fact lies within the fiction? The answer is, more than you might think. Scientists are looking at ways to use traversable wormholes (if they exist) to travel faster than the speed of light — and even to travel through time itself.

"A traversable wormhole is a hyperspace tunnel, also called a throat, that connects together two remotely distant regions within our universe, or two different universes — if other universes exist — or two different periods in time, as in time travel, or different dimensions of space," physicist Eric Davis told Space.com by email.

Davis specializes in the field of space-time as a member of the Tau Zero Foundation, where he uses equations from Einstein's general theory of relativity to think about possible (or impossible) designs for traversable wormholes, warp drives and time machines.

Building a wormhole

Wormholes were first proposed in 1916 by mathematician Ludwig Flamm, who was toying around with equations from Einstein's theory of general relativity that describe how gravity can curve space-time, which refers to the fabric of physical reality. While these tunnels through space-time are a fascinating theoretical possibility, according to physicist Kip Thorne, a professor emeritus at the California Institute of Technology, scientists have not yet come up with an agreed-upon way that wormholes could form in nature, and no wormholes have ever been detected.

Thorne and some of his colleagues also showed that even if a wormhole appeared, it would likely collapse before an object (or person) could pass through it. To keep the wormhole open long enough to traverse it would require some kind of scaffolding, but normal matter wouldn't stand up to the job — it would require an "exotic material."

"Dark energy is one form of naturally occurring exotic matter whose negative pressure produces the gravitationally repulsive force that pushes the space inside our universe outward, thus producing the inflationary expansion of the universe," Davis said.

Along with dark energy, scientists also know of an exotic material called dark matter, which is five times more prevalent in the universe than regular matter. To date, scientists have been unable to directly detect either dark matter or dark energy, so much about them is still unknown. Scientists can learn about these materials, though, by examining the effect they have on the space around them.

According to Ali Övgün of Eastern Mediterranean University in Cyprus, it's possible that wormholes could form where dark matter is present, and thus that they could exist in the outer regions of the Milky Way, where dark matter lies, as well as within other galaxies. Övgün is working to prove that wormholes could exist in regions dense with dark matter. He and his colleagues have run simulations that show that wormholes in dense regions of dark matter found in galactic halos would satisfy the physical requirements scientists think the tunnels require.

"But it is only mathematical proof," Övgün said. "I hope one day it will be possible to also find direct experimental evidence."

View galleryChasing Wormholes: The Hunt for Tunnels in Space-T …
An artist's image of a hypothetical spacecraft that could be used to travel through a wormhole.
So, what happens to a person or instrument traveling through a wormhole?

"Nothing! The space-time geometry of traversable wormholes requires that there be no nasty, intolerable gravitational tidal forces acting upon the spacecraft or its passengers while they move through the wormhole tunnel," Davis said. "They go into the throat at their departure location near Earth and get shunted through the tunnel to emerge out the other side near the destination star."

Because these theoretical tunnels cut through space-time, they would allow travelers to achieve speeds that appear to an outside observer to be faster than light (FTL). However, from the travelers' points of view, they would never actually outpace the speed of light — it would just seem that way to outside observers because the travelers would be taking a route that's shorter than they would have taken through ordinary space.

Before scientists could use wormholes, they would first have to find them. To date, wormholes have not been discovered. However, if they exist, locating a tunnel through space-time may not be as difficult as it sounds.

"As it is visualized in the movie 'Interstellar,' in the future, there will be some experiments to observe [wormholes] indirectly," Övgün said.

Based on certain wormhole theories, he compared peering through a wormhole to Alice's glimpse through the looking glass, in Lewis Carroll's novel of the same name. The region of space at the far end of the tunnel should stand out from the area around the entrance thanks to distortions that would be similar to the reflection in curved mirrors. Another indication may be the way light is concentrated as it moves through the wormhole tunnel, much as the wind blows through a physical tunnel.

Davis refers to what is seen at the near end of a wormhole as a "rainbow caustic effect." Such effects could be seen from a distance.

"Astronomers were planning to use telescopes to hunt for these rainbow caustics as a sign of a naturally occurring, or even an alien-made, traversable wormhole," Davis said. "I never heard if that project got off the ground."

Traveling through time

As part of his study of wormholes, Thorne also proposed a thought experiment in which a wormhole could be used as a time machine. Thought experiments about time travel often run into paradoxes. Perhaps the most famous of these is the grandfather paradox: If an explorer went back in time and killed his or her grandfather, that person could not be born, and would never have gone back in time in the first place. This seems to suggest that backward time travel is impossible, but according to Davis, Thorne's work opened up a new avenue for scientists to explore.

"An entire cottage industry of theoretical physics was born after that, which led to the development of other space-time techniques that can produce causal, nonparadox time machines," Davis said.

But although using wormholes for time travel may appeal to fans of fiction (and those who'd like to change their past),  Davis said current theories show that to make a wormhole time machine, one or both ends of the tunnel would need to be accelerated to velocities approaching the speed of light.

"It would be extremely difficult to construct a wormhole time machine," Davis said. "It's relatively much simpler to use wormholes for FTL interstellar travel between the stars."

Other physicists have suggested that using a wormhole to travel through time would cause a massive buildup of energy that would destroy the tunnel just before it could be utilized as a time machine — a process known as quantum back reaction. Nonetheless, it is still fun to dream about the potential.

"Think of all the possibilities of what people could do and the discoveries they could make if they could travel through time," Davis said. "Their adventures would be very interesting, to say the least."




http://news.yahoo.com/chasing-wormholes-hunt-tunnels-space-time-105905307.html

Could scientists soon discover a parallel universe? New data from the extra powerful Large Hadron Collider is being analysed
'Atom smasher' at Cern, Geneva is turned up to its highest level
This means it could detect miniature black holes - a sign of a 'multiverse'
Ongoing experiment at the LHC could shed new light on the universe

'Just as many parallel sheets of paper, which are two dimensional objects (breath and length) can exist in a third dimension (height), parallel universes can also exist in higher dimensions' Cern employee Mir Faizal from the University of Waterloo told Dailymail.com.

'We predict that gravity can leak into extra dimensions, and if it does, then miniature black holes can be produced at the LHC.'

So...gravity LEAKING into other dimensions producing black holes? 
We've been taught that gravity is a DISTORTION of the FABRIC of space-time.
A solid, or a fabric does not LEAK.  A FLUID leaks. 

GRVAITY is the result of space-time(SUPERFLUIDIC ETHER!) FLOWING into subatomic black holes.  Every black hole is an extension of space-time, producing another volume of space-time, a new universe. 

Gravity is a flow.  Inertia is a wave. 

Cosmo

[A51Watcher]

Among the 2 leading theories concerning the nature of gravity, the one that proposes that gravitons (alleged sub atomic particles) as the source of gravity, turns out to be incorrect now that we have hands on experience with creating or amplifying gravity.

The other theory, that turns out to be the correct one, is that gravity is indeed a wave.

These are the results of moving from the theoretical realm to the practical realm. 

[COSMO]

Astro,

That picture shows a wormhole connecting two points in the same universe.  What if the spatial extensions of a black hole produce a DIFFERENT volume of space time, a NEW universe, and not the one we reside in?  http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=6829.0

Among the 2 leading theories concerning the nature of gravity, the one that proposes that gravitons (alleged sub atomic particles) as the source of gravity, turns out to be incorrect now that we have hands on experience with creating or amplifying gravity.

The other theory, that turns out to be the correct one, is that gravity is indeed a wave.

These are the results of moving from the theoretical realm to the practical realm.

So, your results show that gravity is a wave?  Can you share?

Scientist have not yet been able to detect gravity waves. 
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/nope-we-have-not-detected-gravitational-waves-yet-180954101/?no-ist

So, how does a wave hold us to this planet?  There may be ETHER waves, but those are not what causes gravity. 

Inertia is a wave in a superfluid.( http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=6666.0 )  That is demonstrated in space when an object has accelerated to a certain speed, it will continue to travel at that speed unless it hits some matter(planet, dust, etc).  Also there is not G-force when an object has obtained a certain speed.  These things are true because the ETHER is a superfluid and does not provide resistance.  Keep in mind that current physics accepts the existence of the Higgs Field and it pervades the entire universe.  I believe, like Tesla, that all matter and energy are distortions of that primary medium.  The article about Gravity's Rainbow talks about subatomic extensions of space-time with space-time flowing into them.  Only a fluid flows and there are ideas that I agree with that it is the flow of space-time(ETHER) into subatomic particles that produces what we call gravity.  So, again, I say that gravity is a flow and inertia is a wave.  We are just a collection of distortions in a primary medium that acts collectively like a wave when in motion in a superfluid.  That is inertia.  That is why, once you have accelerated to a certain speed, you no longer feel the G-force. 

There is evidence that it is possible to produce a wave or impulse in the ETHER. 

Dr. Evgeny Podkletnov on the Impulse Gravity-Generator



http://www.americanantigravity.com/files/articles/Podkletnov-Interview.pdf

But ...is is not "gravity" as we experience it. It is a pulse and a pulse or a wave does not provide constant G force we experience as gravity.   

Gravity is a flow and Inertia is a wave. 

Cosmo

[astr0144]

Yes as much as I referred to that image maybe meaning something to me... I could equally envision it looking in another similar way and entering into another Universe rather than just passing thru to another part within the same universe or galaxy..

Would this other eg scenerio be just an example of a Parallel or maybe even Multiverses or both ?

I  have not spent the time in study as yet to really be able to make any real valid comments... It can be seen as a very complex subject with several views...I am struggling for time and focus on this subject that deserves more response.

You seem to have done quite a lot of work and a great thread and attempt to understand it...

The eg where you see a comparison to say a Solar system..with what seems like a stretched piece of Space time that may for eg look like a large taught stretchable square piece of fabric in a Horizontal position... then a larger maybe heavier weighted ball is dropped onto it and the ball moves to the centre.. then you drop smaller balls onto the same fabric and they start to rotate around the larger ball acting like planets around the sun in a solar system... the big ball acting like either a sun or larger planet and the small ball acting like planets revolving around the sun or moons around a planet... The Weight of the larger object creates the fabric to form in a way that allows the smaller balls to say initially rotate/ revolve around  when in initial motion like an orbit...and it maybe seen that the larger mass attracts the smaller masses towards it..This maybe seen as a form of gravity I wonder...

I used to consider Gravity being like a relation between the Masses of the large and smaller masses  and the distortion within the fabric..

but when you have a similar thing but it has a HOLE in the Centre.. resembling a Black Hole... then any objects on the fabric are eventually drawn to the centre.like water going down a hole in a basin  and in this case go thru the hole..

where the objects go after is then the question ! with ref if it is a black hole.

Gravity may create a Flow but Im not sure if its a flow.

Is Gravity a Wave or a Flow....

I think of waves like the Electro Magnetic spectrum...sine waves for eg with light or radio, gama micro etc..

Is A51 suggesting Gravity is something along these lines ?

Distortion also being a connection..

This is a thread I posted elsewhere on Multiverses.. Im not sure if this may also be related to your topic..

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=8729.0

Astro,

That picture shows a wormhole connecting two points in the same universe.  What if the spatial extensions of a black hole produce a DIFFERENT volume of space time, a NEW universe, and not the one we reside in?

[rdunk]

Just some layman type thoughts!

There are at least two things that simply "exist" in our Universe. And, while it seems that neither of these is fully understood, we think we at least kinda know one of them, because it is all around us!! The better known thing is the forever existence of "gravitational force". The other "thing" that seems to be equally forever existing is "dark matter", the which man pretty well admits "we really know nothing about it". Of course, we all have magnets, and know about the attraction and repulsion forces they present, as they give us some elemental picture of gravitational forces. But "dark matter" is totally different, as we really know NOTHING about it, except that it does exist, and that it is black, because we cannot see it.

WHOA!! In looking on wiki at the subject of dark matter, I find that there is a 3rd "thing" that needs to be listed in my group of things that simply "exist" - "dark energy". While dark energy is an "unknown" form of energy, it must play some very important huge role in the existence of our Universe.

From wiki -  "the best current measurements indicate that dark energy contributes 68.3% of the total energy in the present-day observable universe". Dark matter neither emits nor absorbs light or any other electromagnetic radiation at any significant level. According to the Planck mission team, and based on the standard model of cosmology, the total mass–energy of the known universe contains 4.9% ordinary matter, 26.8% dark matter and 68.3% dark energy. Thus, dark matter is estimated to constitute 84.5% of the total matter in the universe, while dark energy plus dark matter constitute 95.1% of the total mass–energy content of the universe.

So, if we can take what has been put on wiki about these "matters" as somewhat having reasonable basis, then doesn't the conclusion that dark energy and dark matter "constitutes 95.1% of the total mass-energy content of the universe" give us reason to totally admit that "we do not really know much about the reality of the universe in which we live"??  Ordinary matter of all of the planets and all of the stars, which we do kinda know about, only account for 4.9% of the total mass-energy of the known universe.

WOW! Do we/man admit that 95% of all that exists, we literally know nothing about? And if that is true, then aren't we severely handicapped with the accuracy of any conclusions we might come to, relative to anything "outside our own front yard"?? Like whether there is a wormhole in the center of our own galaxy? - are wormholes and black holes friends or enemies - can they exist together, if they do exist? Aren't black holes noted to be at the centers of galaxies too? Are black holes actually wormholes??

Gravity. dark matter, and dark energy - do these hold the enabler-keys to our understanding for moving into highly advanced interstellar space travel? Can we possibly even do it without at least having a reasonably well known understanding of their existence, and what we must do to interact with them for successful interstellar travel??!! 



                                                               

[A51Watcher]

Quote from: A51Watcher on October 21, 2015, 06:19:23 PM

Among the 2 leading theories concerning the nature of gravity, the one that proposes that gravitons (alleged sub atomic particles) as the source of gravity, turns out to be incorrect now that we have hands on experience with creating or amplifying gravity.

The other theory, that turns out to be the correct one, is that gravity is indeed a wave.

These are the results of moving from the theoretical realm to the practical realm.

So, your results show that gravity is a wave?  Can you share?

Yep they do and sure I can.


Here is a sample of my results -






These craft display a total disregard for the laws of mass and inertia.

Instant acceleration to full speed then instantaneous stop with no deceleration. Speed approx 15K.

Also 90 degree turns at that speed with no deceleration.


Here is the explanation of gravity waves from the physicist who allowed me to witness the results I did -







This hands on experience with gravity propulsion craft have also shown us that gravity distorts both space and time, although I'm not sure if it distorts both at an equal rate.

If you place a candle in a gravity A distortion field, the flicker of the flame will appear to slow down to an imperceptible crawl.

We also observe differences in atomic clocks when separated by altitude.

Also the gravity amplifiers contain a pair of tuned horns similar to microwave horns used for transmission and are about 3.9 ft in length as I recall.


I also have film of one of these craft appearing to stretch like taffy it is moving so fast, which we naturally might think of as blur on the film.

However in the next frame this stretch snaps in 2 and we have a distinct image of two separate craft in one frame.

In the next frame it returns to a single craft.

So in a 1/30th of a second slice of time, we have an image of a single craft appearing twice in the same image.

Is this a distortion of time or space?

Astronomers see this phenomenon all the time when viewing distant galaxies, seeing multiple distorted images of the same galaxy in different parts of the sky, due to 'gravity lensing'.

So it would appear to me to be a spatial distortion.

I was debating someone who thought it was a time distortion, and one bright cookie who was listening said she thought it was both! 

Anyway, as you are someone who is obviously educated and keen on the subject and constantly researching, thought I would pass along some helpful tips on which forks in the roads of theories have turned out to be correct so far.

[astr0144]

Hi A51,

Thanks for posting the video from that Physicist...

I assume others may know who he is ? and may have seen the other video...but I maybe wrong 

I don't think that I have seen that before or if I have, at the time I may not have understood it...I think I seen him do a similar presentation but on another related topic..

I wonder how many others that he may have done ?


I think that I have a better understanding now...

It was the "Gravity A" wave that I did not grasp or realize if I had seen it before.. But I can envision that it does make some sort of sense...   It seems its some force bonding together the atom or may the whole of Matter (as Matter is made of Atoms)

but then again Im not sure if their may have been other terms used in the past such as strong Force or something long those lines. or maybe Nuclear force..that I think are Forces described in Atomic Structures.

He does suggest that they are Waves and have the same properties of the likes of the Electro Magnetic Spectrum..
Ampitude, wavelength and frequency..like the sign wave forms and like Radio, Micro, Light , X Ray and Gama rays or waves..which actually most of these are also described as forms of Radiation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_spectrum

seems we have descriptions of RAYs and WAVES...
Not quite sure how Rays vary from Waves..

but  Light being both a wave and a Particle...

Does Gravity effect Light both as a wave and a particle I wonder ?
Probably so..

In physics, the term light sometimes refers to electromagnetic radiation of any wavelength, whether visible or not.[4][5] In this sense, gamma rays, X-rays, microwaves and radio waves are also light. Like all types of light, visible light is emitted and absorbed in tiny "packets" called photons, and exhibits properties of both waves and particles. This property is referred to as the wave–particle duality

The other eg of Gravity in relation to the Solar System was what I had a better understanding of prior...

Gravity seems to have ref to Matter... But I wonder how it may relate with the likes of Dark Matter with ref to Rdunks post (Assuming it exists) and Anti Matter !

We are led to believe from some sources such Interstella travel is already possible..but maybe ET related only as yet..

Not sure if we have captured such craft if they have fully worked out how we can do such feats and it maybe a case that the Dark Matter / energy is another part to understanding it...and I am not aware we have prove or fully understood that as yet.

Rdunk

Gravity. dark matter, and dark energy - do these hold the enabler-keys to our understanding for moving into highly advanced interstellar space travel? Can we possibly even do it without at least having a reasonably well known understanding of their existence, and what we must do to interact with them for successful interstellar travel??!!

A51

Here is the explanation of gravity waves from the physicist who allowed me to witness the results I did -

[COSMO]

Hi A51,

I'm sorry, I thought you meant you were working on something that produced conclusive results.  I am familiar with Bob's video but to be honest all I see is a bright spot of light and even if it was a true gravity modification craft, I don't see how that video proves that gravity is a wave.   Has Bob's statements been proven to be accurate?  I think it may be possible, but we don't have proof.  Have you been holding out?   

A craft that defies gravity may utilize wave generation(a ship on the ocean wouldn't), but we do not experience it that way on the surface of our planet and science has failed so far to detect any gravity waves.  What we experience as gravity is more suggestive of a constant force, a constant flow.  It would also explain why gravity gets stronger the closer you get to the planet.  It fits right with the theory that it is this flow into subatomic black hoes that drives subatomic rotation.  I think that is quite possible as it just fits in with nature's way.  It is all around us on this planet and in the universe.  As plain as the nose on your face.

There is evidence that suggests that space-time is a superfluid and that would fit in with Gravity's Rainbow because a fabric does not leak, a solid does not leak but a superfluid would. 
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=6666.0 

I am eagerly waiting on CERN's new results to see if subatomic black holes are generated.  That would help to validate the Gravity's Rainbow theory.

Cosmo

[zorgon]

Gravity Wave Clouds







https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_wave

[zorgon]

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http://www.gravwave.com/docs/GravWave%20Team%206-22-08.pdf

[A51Watcher]

Hi A51,

I'm sorry, I thought you meant you were working on something that produced conclusive results.  I am familiar with Bob's video but to be honest all I see is a bright spot of light and even if it was a true gravity modification craft, I don't see how that video proves that gravity is a wave.

No worries. It's because Bob allowed me to witness this display of alien tech. Thus, being the person with first hand experience with such tech, it follows that he has a better grasp of how gravity functions than those without. Current events have used CSI image analysis on my footage AND Bob's, showing MUCH more than 'a bright spot of light'.

Being the photographer of said footage, I can tell you these bright spots were in fact saucer shaped craft about 50 ft wide.

Note the odd movement at first before it settles into a hover. I have much more footage demonstrating more odd movements and odd strobing effects, but that clip was just to demonstrate that I did see the same craft in the same place as Bob an Co. did and my footage very closely resembles Bob's.

Hence Bob is the expert on what these things are and how they operate.

That's how they demonstrate that gravity is a wave.

An observable working model breaking the laws of physics.

Has Bob's statements been proven to be accurate?  I think it may be possible, but we don't have proof.  Have you been holding out?   

Yes. Dr. Krangle who worked at Los Alamos has recently confirmed Bob's claim of being a physicist with a TS clearance working at Los Alamos.

Bob's claims of what these craft can do has proven to be accurate, based on what I saw and filmed.

A craft that defies gravity may utilize wave generation(a ship on the ocean wouldn't), but we do not experience it that way on the surface of our planet and science has failed so far to detect any gravity waves.  What we experience as gravity is more suggestive of a constant force, a constant flow.  It would also explain why gravity gets stronger the closer you get to the planet.  It fits right with the theory that it is this flow into subatomic black hoes that drives subatomic rotation.  I think that is quite possible as it just fits in with nature's way.  It is all around us on this planet and in the universe.  As plain as the nose on your face.

There is evidence that suggests that space-time is a superfluid and that would fit in with Gravity's Rainbow because a fabric does not leak, a solid does not leak but a superfluid would. 
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=6666.0 

I am eagerly waiting on CERN's new results to see if subatomic black holes are generated.  That would help to validate the Gravity's Rainbow theory.

I have no disagreement with your final paragraph. There is much still to be learned.

If you wish to disregard Bob's information that's fine, no skin off my nose. Just thought I'd pass along what I managed to verify of his story in order to save you some work on dead end paths.

I am still curious if anyone has managed to amplify any gravity B waves and what properties they display.

But I am certain that the gravity propulsion craft Bob spilled the beans on, do exist, and were on display for 3 years for anyone to go see for themselves.

And I've got film to prove it.

To all - The bottom line is Bob was telling the truth and so am I. Want to call us liars? Help yourself.

At this point it means nothing to me.

'I'm a million miles away'. 

[A51Watcher]

Cosmo - I don't think I've been holding out, but in case you missed it, here is some of the CSI image analysis performed on Bob's footage.

As you will see, it is much more than 'a bright spot of light'.

Bob was quite impressed when he saw this footage and remarked on how accurate it was in displaying exactly what they saw.

He and I both thought for years that's all we had on film, a white blob of light dancing around.

Analysis done in the last couple years show there is much more to be seen.

[A51Watcher]

Another example -

Here is a daytime photo of mailbox road -




...and here is a nighttime photo of mailbox road with a cammo dude driving past me, and one of the craft in the upper right -



using a CAD drawing, it was determined that based on this craft being 50 ft wide, it is approx 2000 ft away from the photographer (me).


...and here is a closeup view of that craft -




...and now if we examine what is hidden in the shades of black in this photo, what can we observe? -




With a few years experience viewing these frames under different analysis, it becomes clear the processes involved behave exactly as Bob describes them.

What we suspect you are viewing in the above photo is the tight powerful electricity energy lines in the center being produced from the matter-antimatter reactor, and the large red lines under the craft are the gravity waves being produced to cushion or support the craft. The lines in the center could also be the gravity distortion field surrounding the craft instead of being electricity related. Not sure at this point.

What we are sure of is - that no other type of light processes like A51 craft do. It is unique and extraordinary.

These lines change in shape from frame to frame, same goes for the CSI processed frames.

So we suspect that this is due to a very fast energy pulse changing at least 30 times a second as evidenced, but very likely is much faster than that since the changes we observe are not smooth but a bit jumpy. So we are missing some of the action due to our measly 30 fps filming.

According to Bob "The amplifiers pulse individualy at 7.46 hz as this cycle revolves around the disc."



http://users.skynet.be/bob.lazar/www.boblazar.com/closed/omi.html


Bob describes propulsion near the ground as being different than for space travel.

The gravity distortion field is pointed forward in a manner where the craft is constantly falling downhill, or constantly trying to fall into a hole but never succeeding.



We have frames showing the fields doing exactly that, and behaving exactly as Bob said they do and demonstrated with graphics of how gravity fields form and behave.


Personally I don't need all the additional supporting evidence and witness testimony that is coming to light in the last few years, I knew 25 years ago that this was all true.

Witnessing gravity propulsion craft in action is all it takes. Game over. Case Closed.

All I can do these days as new evidence comes to light is go 'See? TOLD ya so!  '




eta: deblurring software and techniques allowed us to get the plate numbers off the cammo dudes jeep.

Nevada DMV said those plates were never issued.

(A51 must have their own DMV! HAH!) 

[A51Watcher]

Here is Bob's description of the craft constantly falling downhill I mentioned -




Other configurations -









and the resulting gravity distortion field that envelops the craft -






As I mentioned, we have numerous shades of black frames that conform to the shapes shown above.

Just further confirmation that his information is correct.

At this point not even Bob has seen the shades of black confirmation frames.


All to be revealed in an upcoming video.

[astr0144]

A51, Thanks for your further explanations and descriptions and Images of how Bobs Craft is suggested to work and defy gravity.

I had seen some of them before on Bobs original website..
but maybe not  understood their explanations as clearly at that time.

As I recall we have/had... the power source being from Element 115 and the reactor...  and the three Gravity amplifiers that when switched on produce an effect to change the effects of gravity surrounding the craft.. and the 3 amplifiers can alter their positions that enable the craft to move in different directions once it has lifted... To initially lift the craft of the ground all three amplifiers are in what id describe as a vertical position.

The 3 amplifiers described as A, B , C..

Once its lifted.. each amplifier can alter position. and the diagrams show those positions.. of which A & C seem to be the ones who may change into a horizontal position..

I sort of imagine them like thruster's on a aircraft engine..similar to the vertical take off aircraft..that can change direction from a vertical position to a horizontal position.

Except Bobs  the ET Craft  are not engine like thruster's..but gravity amplifiers that change the position that alters the gravity effect.. and that acts in a similar way to the thruster in terms of how it effects the forces acting on the craft by gravity to move it one way or another..

In the diagrams we may see that as a 2 D effect.. eg such as seeing it move from Left to Right and Right to Left directions as we see it in some of the diagrams..

BUT I suspect the amplifiers move also to allow it to move forward and backwards.. and maybe they are designed to be on a rotating system that allows them to alter the positions anywhere with a 360 degree direction.  I should think that is how it would be, and its a clever design.

What I am not sure about however is what is the amplifiers doing in relation to "Gravity A" and "Gravity B" waves as described by Bob..

I got the impression that the thing that our technology would lack in being able to overcome the "Gravity A" effects of Matter..

the breaking of the bonds of Atoms in the matter that are on Earth or connected to the Craft while on Earth and  within Earths own gravity..

Is this what the amplifiers are mainly doing ?

or is it reacting to both the "Gravity A" and "Gravity B" effects at the same time..and that is described as Distortion..

I am still not sure how the amplifier goes about altering the effects of gravity... I could say envision something like an electro magnetic device that may alter gravity...but I don't think this is the sort of thing that the amplifiers are  doing in terms of how we may think..

I suspect it requires an intense type of power system, say if the power is coming from a Nuclear type of reaction from the Element 115 and its reactor... but is this a type of electo power when working the amplifiers..or is it doing something else..

That the part that I am still uncertain about..

It then says that the Amplifiers are capable of intersecting all 3 gravity beams at an infinate distance from the craft. NOT an infinate point..The Minimum point size of intersection is 100 cm diameter..

I am not sure if I fully understand what this means...

even seeing Bobs drawing that shows a small circular area..is this suggesting that somehow the craft relates to a small point on Earths surface even when its a long distance away and that the surface area needs to be a min of 100 cm dia ?!



Is the Omicron the name for the Amplifiers ?  If so I wonder where that name comes from ?

I am not sure if Bob explained the more specific of that in any of his videos..


Is the drawing that of one Bob created ?

Omicron is frequently used to designate the fifteenth star in a constellation group,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omicron

There is now a Company using that name to do with energy and power systems.

https://www.omicron.at/en/company/

electrical energy systems. They include energy providers and utilities, manufacturers of equipment for the transmission and distribution of electrical power and more.

What we suspect you are viewing in the above photo is the tight powerful electricity energy lines in the center being produced from the matter-antimatter reactor, and the large red lines under the craft are the gravity waves being produced to cushion or support the craft.

According to Bob "The amplifiers pulse individualy at 7.46 hz as this cycle revolves around the disc."

Can you explain what the shades of Black frames are ?  is this black and white photo frames or something else ?

look forward if your willing to share your upcoming video.

As I mentioned, we have numerous shades of black frames that conform to the shapes shown above.

Just further confirmation that his information is correct.

At this point not even Bob has seen the shades of black confirmation frames.

I suspect generally that as the Cameo Dudes or on Government land surrounding Area 51 that they dont need to officially need to have number plates... BUT when they go on to the 375 Highway which they definately do at times.. they have no excuse .. and would be breaking the law possibly if they have plates that do not show up on the official system...but as they are Govt associated whos going to challenge them ! 

eta: deblurring software and techniques allowed us to get the plate numbers off the cammo dudes jeep.

Nevada DMV said those plates were never issued.

(A51 must have their own DMV! HAH!)