SCIENTIST ADMITS TO STUDY OF ROSWELL CRASH DEBRIS! (Confirmed by FOIA Document)

[A51Watcher]

http://ufocon.blogspot.com/2009/08/scientist-admits-to-study-of-roswell.html

[rdunk]

A51Watcher, is this a generally "known" clear piece of UFO evidence, or has this 2009 report been hidden somewhere? Is there a reason this has not been posted/discussed here before" Why is not this, and what it concludes, a significant reason for the disclosure for the which so many are clamoring?? Is this not "the smoking gun"?

A51Watcher, just an excerpt from your link says much: A research study that has recently been obtained through FOIA offers stunning confirmation that Wright-Patterson Air Force base contracted Battelle Memorial Institute to analyze material from a crashed UFO at Roswell in 1947. Remarkably, the co-author of this very metals study is the same scientist who decades ago had confessed that he had examined extraterrestrial metal from a crashed UFO while he was a research scientist at Battelle! This just-received document also reveals that another one of its metallurgist authors reported directly to a Battelle scientist who was conducting secret UFO studies for the USAF. It appears that the study represents first-ever attempts in creating highly novel and advanced Titanium alloys. Some of these alloys were later associated with the development of "memory metal" of the type reported as crash debris at Roswell.

This 1949 Battelle research study had never before been publicly available until earlier this month. Its release was compelled under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA.) It was sought because references to it had been found as footnotes within later military-sponsored studies on shape-memory alloys such as Nitinol. It was previously believed to be "missing" because both Battelle and Wright historians were unable to locate it. Earlier research had revealed a paper trail that led from Roswell to Wright Patterson, to the doors of Battelle- and to this 1949 study.

In searching here, I do find other posts that mention Battelle, but certainly none that address this OP topic! Some of them:

Kalr 12's post Nov. 03, 2012 does mention "the Battelle Institute" carrying out UFO studies for the U.S. Government. http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=3098.msg43478#msg43478

Another relative to Battelle Institute was posted by Zorgon July 17, 2012 subject "Battelle". The youtube that he posted does not work now, but there is considerable info in this post.
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2019.0

Another Karl 12 post July 24, 2013 - about sponsored UFO Research - "Also mentioned is the U.S. Military's JANAP 146 regulation and the research conducted by NICAP, Dr Hynek, Dr Mcdonald and the Battelle Institute's study of official UFO case files -there's also government UFO documents concerning official studies and photographs of the Generals, Officers and scientists involved so it's nice to finally be able to put some names to faces".
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=4895.msg66003#msg66003

[ArMaP]

The study is, apparently, available here, so anyone can see if it really shows "stunning confirmation that Wright-Patterson Air Force base contracted Battelle Memorial Institute to analyze material from a crashed UFO at Roswell in 1947".

[A51Watcher]

Good eye there Rdunk! 

Nice to see somebody is paying attention and lets the implications dawn on them.


As with all FOIA documents, they were never meant to see the light of day.


In reference to your question, it being "a generally known" clear piece of UFO evidence -

...depends on known by whom.


Being an avid Roswell researcher myself, I became aware of it shortly after it's release.

But from my perspective, it is just another in a long line of clear pieces of UFO evidence.


I too did a search yesterday and noticed it had not been discussed, hence the reason for this thread.


Richard Hall's book - 'Uninvited Guests' has quite a collection of FOIA documents that are real eye poppers for those not familiar with them.

The best online collection of FOIA documents from all agencies is at The Black Vault -


http://www.theblackvault.com/m/articles/subcategories/ufo-phenomena





 

[A51Watcher]

The study is, apparently, available here, so anyone can see if it really shows "stunning confirmation that Wright-Patterson Air Force base contracted Battelle Memorial Institute to analyze material from a crashed UFO at Roswell in 1947".

Armap, the confirmation the author is referring to, is official confirmation that the scientist in question is indeed one of the co- authors of the secret study and report, exactly as he had stated decades before, and that this study and report were prompted by examinations of the Roswell wreckage.   

[rdunk]

The study is, apparently, available here, so anyone can see if it really shows "stunning confirmation that Wright-Patterson Air Force base contracted Battelle Memorial Institute to analyze material from a crashed UFO at Roswell in 1947".

I wonder why this report starts on page 60 - no one starts a report on "page 60". Sure, if they had "other work" in progress it could have been covered on the first 59 pages, but even the summary page starts with page 60??

Just wondering!!

[ArMaP]

Armap, the confirmation the author is referring to, is official confirmation that the scientist in question is indeed one of the co- authors of the secret study and report, exactly as he had stated decades before, and that this study and report were prompted by examinations of the Roswell wreckage.

I miss that part saying that the report was prompted by examinations of the Roswell wreckage, is it on the report or in any official document?

[ArMaP]

I wonder why this report starts on page 60 - no one starts a report on "page 60". Sure, if they had "other work" in progress it could have been covered on the first 59 pages, but even the summary page starts with page 60??

Just wondering!!

I noticed that.

[A51Watcher]

I miss that part saying that the report was prompted by examinations of the Roswell wreckage, is it on the report or in any official document?

No official documents yet, no. Perhaps if we get the first 60 pages?

His initial disclosure (saying that the report was prompted by examinations of the Roswell wreckage) was in private, not meant for the public, but got out.

[A51Watcher]

Here's the backstory and details Armap for any parts you miss -


http://www.paranormalnews.com/article.aspx?id=1428


In part it reveals -

"Several new things have recently been learned about Elroy Center, and they are told here publicly for the first time:

As reported previously, Dr. Irena Scott (formerly of Battelle) had been told by a friend of Center's in 1991 that he had decades earlier been related the story of UFO debris analysis by Center. We can now reveal that this friend has been identified, located and interviewed. The name of the individual who told Dr. Scott the Center story is "Nick" Nickerson. Incredibly we find that Nickerson was himself a Battelle scientist for nearly twenty years, specializing in physics and electronics practice areas. He held Top Secret Clearance, holds several U.S. Patents for novel laser and other designs, and has achieved high recognition for his technical achievements. Though Nickerson was a very young man when Center told him that he had been tasked to undertake the debris analysis - Nickerson's credibility cannot be questioned. He was himself later employed by the same organization that Elroy Center was - and was himself highly awarded. He speaks calmly and with no embellishment. He has nothing to gain from this whatsoever. In fact, Nickerson was sought out by me. He did not "come forward." Understandably, his friend Dr. Irena Scott did not wish to reveal his name to me. Herculean efforts were used to deduce just who the man was who had talked to Elroy Center those decades ago.

Additionally, Nickerson (who had become interested in UFO study in part due to his talk with Center) later associated himself as an investigator with the civilian research group NICAP. Nickerson exposed the famous Zanesville, Ohio "Barber's Photo" UFO hoax, obtaining a confession from the barber that he had faked the pictures. Nickerson detests falsehood and worked to expose such in the world of UFOs. He is telling the truth about Center. When interviewed by this author, he added much additional information:

* Nickerson confirmed the details of what he had told Dr. Irena Scott nearly two decades ago: Center had directly and privately told him that he had analyzed a strange metal piece that he did not believe to be earthly and that he understood was from a downed UFO. Center did mention hieroglyphic-like markings.

* Dr. Irena Scott, formerly of Battelle,who first related the Center story (and with whom I have talked) also believes that Nickerson is telling the truth.

* A current and decades-long Battelle executive, William Jones, the Senior Contracting Officer for Federal Projects at the Institute, was told the same story by Nickerson many years ago. Jones also believes that Nickerson is telling the truth.

* Nickerson was a very curious young man who had interest in cosmic science. He had engaged Center (who had by then already left Battelle) in a talk outside the house that led to a discussion of the possibiity of the extraterrestrial. This is when Center cryptically related the details of his encounter with ET debris at Battelle. It is probable that Center - in a weak moment- privately told a young man the ET story because he knew that Nickerson would never be believed if ever he repeated it because of his youth. Center also probably believed that the young Nickerson would never jeopardize Center as he was his daughter's close friend. He was sure that Nickerson would keep the story related private. And Nickerson did in fact keep it private until the year after Center died.

* Center said that the material was kept is a secure safe with limited access

* Center seemed lucid and truthful, but was cryptic and brief. Nickerson had no reason to disbelieve him.

* Nickerson (himself a former Battelle "insider") believes that it is most likely that Battelle was engaged in such ET debris analysis. He knows the Insitute had a deep relationship with the US Government. It had the proximity to Wright and it had the talent, equipment and resources needed to study the Roswell debris.

* He says that there were other indications of Battelle having been contracted to study UFOs- even into the 1970s. He maintains that a Battelle superior told him that the CIA was still, at that time. involved in secret UFO studies - as was the Institute.

* One elderly Battelle Project Manager, who worked on Blue Book who was still at the Institute when Nickerson was employed there, refused to discuss his work on Project Blue Book, even though it was many years later and Nickerson had security clearances."


Lots more information at the link.

[ArMaP]

No official documents yet, no. Perhaps if we get the first 60 pages?

Does that mean that there's no real confirmation that the report was prompted by examinations of the Roswell wreckage?

His initial disclosure (saying that the report was prompted by examinations of the Roswell wreckage) was in private, not meant for the public, but got out.

How did it "got out"?

[ArMaP]

Here's the backstory and details Armap -


http://www.paranormalnews.com/article.aspx?id=1428

Thanks.

[COSMO]

A51Watcher, is this a generally "known" clear piece of UFO evidence, or has this 2009 report been hidden somewhere? Is there a reason this has not been posted/discussed here before" Why is not this, and what it concludes, a significant reason for the disclosure for the which so many are clamoring?? Is this not "the smoking gun"?

A51Watcher, just an excerpt from your link says much: A research study that has recently been obtained through FOIA offers stunning confirmation that Wright-Patterson Air Force base contracted Battelle Memorial Institute to analyze material from a crashed UFO at Roswell in 1947. Remarkably, the co-author of this very metals study is the same scientist who decades ago had confessed that he had examined extraterrestrial metal from a crashed UFO while he was a research scientist at Battelle! This just-received document also reveals that another one of its metallurgist authors reported directly to a Battelle scientist who was conducting secret UFO studies for the USAF. It appears that the study represents first-ever attempts in creating highly novel and advanced Titanium alloys. Some of these alloys were later associated with the development of "memory metal" of the type reported as crash debris at Roswell.

This 1949 Battelle research study had never before been publicly available until earlier this month. Its release was compelled under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA.) It was sought because references to it had been found as footnotes within later military-sponsored studies on shape-memory alloys such as Nitinol. It was previously believed to be "missing" because both Battelle and Wright historians were unable to locate it. Earlier research had revealed a paper trail that led from Roswell to Wright Patterson, to the doors of Battelle- and to this 1949 study.

In searching here, I do find other posts that mention Battelle, but certainly none that address this OP topic! Some of them:

Kalr 12's post Nov. 03, 2012 does mention "the Battelle Institute" carrying out UFO studies for the U.S. Government. http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=3098.msg43478#msg43478

Another relative to Battelle Institute was posted by Zorgon July 17, 2012 subject "Battelle". The youtube that he posted does not work now, but there is considerable info in this post.
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2019.0

Another Karl 12 post July 24, 2013 - about sponsored UFO Research - "Also mentioned is the U.S. Military's JANAP 146 regulation and the research conducted by NICAP, Dr Hynek, Dr Mcdonald and the Battelle Institute's study of official UFO case files -there's also government UFO documents concerning official studies and photographs of the Generals, Officers and scientists involved so it's nice to finally be able to put some names to faces".
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=4895.msg66003#msg66003

I do know that the materials lab at Battelle has this guy as a mascot:



Cosmo

[rdunk]

Thanks COSMO!! I saved a screenshot of that guy for future use!!

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

This from Denice:



"Hello I just read the article...but I want to reread it again when I have some more time...I have heard of this before I think I read it in Don Schmitt's book "the real area 51" I have touched nitinol before..it was kinda thick and edges were sharp not because it was jagged it is just the edges are sharp you can bend it and it does uncrumple but it feels..now I don't know if this was back engineered from roswell or not."