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The Allagash Alien Abduction Case

Started by A51Watcher, June 13, 2014, 08:34:59 AM

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Quote from: petrus4 on June 15, 2014, 08:24:08 AM

the Greys are known for, and the existence of the hybrid breeding program, the means by which governments are at least possibly obtaining riot police who are completely devoid of empathy and immune to appeal, is becoming clear.

Remember; most of the earliest abduction cases (the Hills etc) took place in the 1960s.  That is close to two full generations ago now.  Given this, I believe that it is extremely possible that we are looking at a genuine scenario where Reticulan/Human hybrids are walking around with gas masks, nightsticks, and riot gear.  Their relative lack of emotion would make them potentially superb infantry; not only because maintenance of morale would no longer be an issue, but also because they would be solely concerned with tactical efficiency, and not the moral or human cost of their actions.


I notice this as well and I call them synthetics. Someone is changing mankind into ruthless creatures devoid of humanity for humans and this parasitic organism will torture and kill people without mercy.

This historically reveals a detached entity that thrill kills humanity from as early as history recalls. Just within the last 50 years have we seen behavior that makes no sense and the creature who hides that behavior till a victim becomes ensnared, makes the news and a book or two revealing itself for contemplation.

Those of us awake enough to see it at work know somethings here with us and that something works from the shadows and hides in plain sight as it takes victims.
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A51Watcher



Funny we've not heard from the anti- ET hypothesis members on this one.

I'd say this one clearly indicates aliens.



deuem

Quote from: A51Watcher on August 10, 2014, 10:52:44 PM

Funny we've not heard from the anti- ET hypothesis members on this one.

I'd say this one clearly indicates aliens.

They got abducted

Sinny

Quote from: A51Watcher on August 10, 2014, 10:52:44 PM

Funny we've not heard from the anti- ET hypothesis members on this one.

I'd say this one clearly indicates aliens.

Well I'm not anti-ET I'm just anti- BS.

If anyone has watched my journey over the last two years, you will know I began this journey believeing in 'Greys', 'Nordics' and 'The Great White Brotherhood'. What a load of old tosh, I'm glad Pimander opended my eye's.

A 'saucer' sat in front of me over 4 years ago - Today I still very much want to know who operated that machine and all of it's orby little probes.

Karla Turner was convinced she was being abducted by aliens.. Before she started to realise the agenda going on was far more insidious than little space beings 'probing us'.

I had a very life like dream about Greys the once - Scared the hell outta me for two months - do I think they've been probing my anus? Hell to the no. It's more likely who ever was controllling 'my' UFO's had also efforted to influence my thoughts and sub-concious.

I can't watch the OP Video just yet - However from its Wiki entry, there is nothing 'new' about the case thus yet.

I will return with an additional opinion. 

I realise I'm bumping opinion with some members now, whom I agreed with before- It's all a learning curve aye.
"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society"- JFK

burntheships

#19
Quote from: 08rubicon on June 15, 2014, 03:55:38 PM
Thoes other  species might just be prisoners, put on this planet with
no real way to escape, many thousands of years ago.
Our 'space program' may be their 'escape attempt' Their
only hope of escape may be complete control of the
human race. (bible story of lucifer and the fallen angels)
    rubicon

Interesting thoughts there 08 Rubicon,

I came across some of the most compelling accounts
when investigating the Hypogeum of Saflieni.

Found things I was not expecting at all, witness
accounts of beings living underground....


http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=6309.msg87719#msg87719


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- Zorgon

A51Watcher

#20
Since this is my day for questions, I notice it's a year and a half since I posted this video in the OP, and I still see no explanation for these guys abduction coming forth such as sleep paralysis, dreams, hallucinations, etc. etc.

Since those explanations obviously don't fit, what are we left with?

Keep in mind this is not the only case with multiple witnesses.


I'll check back in another year and a half.




zorgon

Quote from: A51Watcher on November 22, 2015, 03:18:08 AM
I'll check back in another year and a half.

It's been a little slow around here since everyone Skyped Out :P

A51Watcher

Quote from: zorgon on November 22, 2015, 04:13:21 AM
It's been a little slow around here since everyone Skyped Out :P

Be that as it may, what's your take on this case?

Any explanation besides the obvious?


micjer

I wonder if these 4 guys had implants placed in them.  It didn't mention that,
The only people in the world, it seems, who believe in conspiracy theory, are those of us that have studied it.    Pat Shannon

A51Watcher

Well 4 years now since I posted this case.

STILL no logical explanation except the obvious.


Group dreaming?

Group hallucination?

...Group abduction still seems to be the only logical answer.



fansongecho


@A51W - just picking up this thread now,and did a quick search on the brothers , this came up -

http://www.allagashufotwins.com/

I saw a couple of posts that indicated that Chuck Rek says it was total fabrication for financial gain ? :o

need to do more research - just going through the thread and comments.

Cheers!

Fans'  8)

A51Watcher

fans I followed your link and did not see those comments.

any idea if those comments are for real or just slag by naysayers?



fansongecho


fansongecho


@A51, I cant find the original interview with Rak as stated in the articles above buddy.

::) :-\ :-\

zorgon

Searching on google requires use of keywords...

So if you do the search using THESE words...

"Allagash UFO twin admit hoax"


You will find right on top...

Subject of 1976 UFO incident casts doubt on 'Allagash Abductions'
Jessica Potila, SJVT / FhF Staff Writer • September 10, 2016



QuoteALLAGASH WILDERNESS WATERWAY — Speaking via telephone from a motel room in Bethany, Missouri on Wednesday, August 31, 2016, Chuck Rak, one of four men who claimed aliens took them while canoeing on Big Eagle Lake in northern Maine 40 years ago, an incident which became internationally known as the "Allagash Abductions," said it did not happen.

A self-portrait oil painting of artist and famed "alien abductee" Chuck Rak. Rak was one of four men who claimed aliens abducted them while canoeing on Big Eagle Lake in the Allagash Wilderness Waterway. (Photo courtesy of Chuck Rak for the SJVT / FhF)
A self-portrait oil painting of artist and famed "alien abductee" Chuck Rak. Rak was one of four men who claimed aliens abducted them while canoeing on Big Eagle Lake in the Allagash Wilderness Waterway. (Photo courtesy of Chuck Rak for the SJVT / FhF)

"The reason I supported the story at first was because I wanted to make money," he said.

Rak, along with Charlie Foltz, and twin brothers Jack and Jim Weiner, all students at the Massachusetts College of Art and Design, embarked on a vacation canoeing the Allagash Wilderness Waterway during the summer of 1976; however, Rak's input has been notably absent in recent years from news stories and documentaries pertaining to the Allagash Abductions.

According to Rak on Wednesday, the group did witness an unidentified flying object during their canoe trip, both on the night of the alleged abductions, and two nights before on Chamberlain Lake. "Oh yes, I saw the craft," Rak said.


QuoteAccording to Rak, the men continued with their trip, and did not discuss the possibility of having been abducted by aliens until years later after Jim Weiner suffered a traumatic fall and began to experience seizures.

"After suffering this fall he started having these visions of humanoid beings levitating above his bed, poking him with needles," Rak said.

Jim Weiner eventually shared his visions with renowned UFO researcher and author Raymond Fowler, after which the group underwent hypnosis with a man named Tony Constantino.

During the regressive hypnosis sessions both the Weiners and Foltz claimed to recall small grey aliens taking them aboard a spacecraft. They said the aliens then performed what they perceived to be medical examinations on the men.

Rak now says his hypnosis experience led to no such recall on his part, although he previously claimed publicly that it did.

Fowler wrote a book about the case in 1993, "The Allagash Abductions." A storm of media attention followed, including appearances by the Allagash Four – as the public dubbed Rak, Foltz and the Weiner brothers – on "The Joan Rivers Show" and an episode of "Unsolved Mysteries."

"We were compelled to stay together, all speculating that this thing could go into the millions of dollars for each of us," Rak said. "We made very little."

Rak said he and the others eventually had a falling out, after which he began telling people that the abductions never took place.

He stopped short of describing the Allagash Abductions as an outright hoax. "I don't call it a hoax, just brilliant storytelling. It's not the truth, but I have to admire the storytelling ability of these guys," he said.

https://fiddleheadfocus.com/2016/09/10/news/community/top-stories/subject-of-1976-ufo-incident-casts-doubt-on-allagash-abductions/

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