Anonymous - Homeless people in US deported to camps - YouTube

[thorfourwinds]

[Amaterasu]

Yup.  Homelessness is a crime.  Geez.  Like the homeless CHOSE to go homeless and are not casualties of the economy.

Gotta love money systems.

[ArMaP]

Yup.  Homelessness is a crime.  Geez.

That's one thing I don't understand on a (supposedly) democratic country, how can something like loitering be illegal.

Like the homeless CHOSE to go homeless and are not casualties of the economy.

Some did chose to go homeless.

[petrus4]

I am still struggling to understand the cause behind the breakdown in empathy, which topics like these illustrate.

Can you offer any opinions as to what causes that, Armap?

[astr0144]

Not got around to watching the video as yet,

But I get the impression that if they can get away with it, the authorities will try to make it almost impossible to escape the system...and even try to stop anyone living either of the land or on the streets...

I am sure a large % of people do fall on bad times due to the way things have gone...

I was watching a TV drama program last night that made me think... where someone was planning to release a virus to Kill millions of people.. They said when they were born around 1950s..I think it was that there were less than 2 billion population....Now we have 7 billion.

They said we could not continue with such a large population for very long until resources runs out...like OIL as an eg....

Looking at how some aspects of Life are...I can partially agree that some things seem for the worst for many average people...

But the other side is Human progress has evolved in terms of technology quite remarkably at a faster pace than ever in history..

Maybe Ok for the brighter and well off....but not good in many ways for those who feel that they have too much competition today in life to even get an half decent job and have a reasonable less stressful living..


this was something that they tried to do in London recently with ref to the homeless ..but at the moment have had to stop it..


http://news.yahoo.com/outcry-over-anti-homeless-spikes-london-141126295.html

Some did chose to go homeless.

[WhatTheHey]

  Well isn't this a scarey bit of infringement. I always thought we have rights because we are human citizens not because we do, or do not have a home.
  The lack of compassion, empathy, sympathy and humanity is not really a big surprise. The various major medias have been involved with creating a desensitized population for many years. Their efforts to do this have also been accelerated in recent times. Scan through your TV channels and check out the type of desensitizing shows, scenes and such that are shown to us now.

whatthehey

[WarToad]

Some did chose to go homeless.

I have to agree, there's quite a spectrum of homeless.  I suspect there's more "hard-luck" homeless than those who've made long strings of bad decisions or just selectively dropped out of society.

[ArMaP]

I am still struggling to understand the cause behind the breakdown in empathy, which topics like these illustrate.

Can you offer any opinions as to what causes that, Armap?

I think it's just human nature, the same human nature that created those anti-loitering laws that now can be used for something like this.

Does anyone know how old are those laws?

[spacemaverick]

I can give you a view from a former corrections officer and law enforcement officer view in our county here in Florida.  Some are homeless by choice.  Some are homeless because of the economy.  And let me tell you jobs for those who do not have technical skills on the Space Coast of Florida are not easy to come by and that included me for awhile.  No I wasn't homeless but we took in my daughter and her 4 children and my younger son...thats 6 people plus me and my wife.  Daughter had to go on food stamps for awhile, she went back to college for medical assisting and graduated with her second degree.  Thank goodness her ex paid his support regularly.  My younger son lost his job and then I lost mine.  I am retired law enforcement with a pension where 1/2 my pension goes for medical, dental, vision and prescription for 3 of us.  My wife runs a licensed daycare in the home.  So we had 8 people living there under one roof...now down to 6 sincee 2 of the grandchildren are off at college (they found their scholarships)...none of us could afford to pay their way.  Since then we have all found jobs that finally pay decently to get us out of the hole.

We do have private entities that help out the homeless and they are doing what they can.  Some of our law enforcement officers steer the homeless in a direction to the private entities to get them some help.  Some of the law enforcement people dip in their own pockets.  One in particular carries stuffed animals to give to homeless children with their parents.  She carries donated blankets in her patrol car during the winter.  Its not the government that really helps but the private entities do the most.  Most of our law enforcement people do not deliberately go after homeless people but some do and the cop that does that doesn't deserve to wear the badge.

Only just recently did one of our cities in Brevard County Florida decide they did not want the homeless downtown and are THINKING of doing something about it.  The city hasn't determined what to do yet but the homeless are not treated badly for the most part.  Some have undergone foreclosures and still have jobs.  Some have neither house nor job because of the loss of a job.  Most on our county are good people who have just lost it all and trying to make ends meet.  Right now very few are criminals (right now anyway).

So I can only speak for where I live and not anywhere else.

[spacemaverick]

Oh, by the way...when I was a young tike I lived in the back of a car with my parents while dad worked and we ate peanut butter sandwiches and picked up meals at the local salvation army.  Eventually we got back on our feet.  So I have personally been there and my wife and I help where and when we can.  We share.

[ArMaP]

One in particular carries stuffed animals to give to homeless children with their parents.

That was something I wasn't expecting, I don't have any recollection of ever seeing, either in real life or on TV, entire homeless families.

[spacemaverick]

That was something I wasn't expecting, I don't have any recollection of ever seeing, either in real life or on TV, entire homeless families.

They do exist.  In my early years my parents and I.  I have even encountered some myself.  I don't know the answer but it sure isn't through the government.  Habitat for humanity helps but it seems things are getting worse.

[Amaterasu]

Some did chose to go homeless.

So?  The vast majority did not.  Geez. 

[ArMaP]

So?  The vast majority did not.  Geez.

You were not talking of a majority in this sentence.

Like the homeless CHOSE to go homeless

[Amaterasu]

You were not talking of a majority in this sentence.

How You liking those nits You're picking?