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Hawthorn Nevada walker lake monster

Started by Gigas, June 28, 2014, 09:05:37 PM

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Gigas

Ya, I never knew this even though I hung out there back in the 90s.

I came across the walker lake monster sightings from John Keel's book The Complete Guide to Mysterious Beings. I looked it up and sure enough a monster of some sort also hung out there in the lake.

When I went by the lake they have a long beach and camp sites but I never seen anyone on the beach or on the water. If I recall correctly, they now prohibit anyone from going down to the beach. I wonder why.

Since the lake is salt water, the ocean must have a way in walker lake and over at salt lake utah as well.

So the story goes indians had tales of a snake monster wallowing in the lake and it lunched on indian people till they made an agreement to not kill it if it ate only white people. Guess that worked out since the indians had no more bad things to say about the walker lake monster.

QuoteAs recently as 1956, a couple from Babbit, Nevada wrote to the editor of Hawthorne's newspaper, claiming to have seen "something moving in Walker Lake at a terrific speed" which actually outpaced their automobile. It performed an aquabatic 100 yard dash before plummeting below the surface. The fall 1969 issue of non-fiction magazine Old West reprinted their letter, which continued, "It must've been 45 to 55 feet long and its back stuck up above the water at least four or five feet when it was swimming fast."

http://skylaire.com/walkerlakemonster.htm

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The Seeker

Hmm, didn't Z and /or John Lear do a piece on Hawthorn Nevada and the Navy Undersea Warfare center being located there, if memory serves me correctly?

Have to go look for it...


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Quote from: Gigas on June 28, 2014, 09:05:37 PM
Since the lake is salt water, the ocean must have a way in walker lake and over at salt lake utah as well.
Not really, there are many salt lakes without any connection with the ocean.

If you fill a hole in a salty ground with water you will get a salt water mini-lake, and any drying lake gets higher and higher concentrations of salts, as the water evaporates and the salts are left on the remaining water.

Gigas

Well, word has it the pacific ocean has underground connection to the land locked navy base there in hawthorn. My speculation is a sea creature than has access to the lake when it wants to swim on over.

The salt flats and salt lake have origins with the ocean. How else would the salt flats keep water under all that salty crust. Drive across I-80 there and see where all the vehicles sunk into the salt marsh. It don't rain much there so where does the water come from under the salt flats.
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ArMaP

Quote from: Gigas on June 29, 2014, 01:09:14 AM
Well, word has it the pacific ocean has underground connection to the land locked navy base there in hawthorn.
"Word" is not enough for me. :)

QuoteMy speculation is a sea creature than has access to the lake when it wants to swim on over.
If that sea creature has access to the lake then other species should also have access to it, right?

QuoteThe salt flats and salt lake have origins with the ocean. How else would the salt flats keep water under all that salty crust.
The same way all other aquifers do. :)

Gigas

Quote from: ArMaP on June 29, 2014, 01:36:42 AM
"Word" is not enough for me. :)

:)

Did you search the word before throwing down or is that how we debate words from others when discussing already out there information.

QuoteIf that sea creature has access to the lake then other species should also have access to it, right?

What species?

QuoteThe same way all other aquifers do.

The aquifer should be salty as the upper salty water table, right?
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ArMaP

Quote from: Gigas on June 29, 2014, 04:07:09 AM
Did you search the word before throwing down or is that how we debate words from others when discussing already out there information.
I didn't throw it down, I only said it's not enough for me, I like to work with facts. If that information is out there, why don't you point me to it instead of just saying "word has it"? :)

QuoteWhat species?
Any of the hundreds of species (animals and plants) that inhabit the sea, or is that lake monster the only one able to move across that hypothetical connection between the sea and the lake?

QuoteThe aquifer should be salty as the upper salty water table, right?
What's the problem with a salty aquifer? And, in most cases of salt lakes, they are the result of the lake drying up and, with less water, getting a higher salt concentration than before.

From what I have read (today, on Wikipedia) about that lake, it was not a salt water lake, but now it's getting more and more salty.

Gigas

Unfortunately you operate on tango spookz principles and I, being an old hand at forum fighting know your position well.

You see, you did indeed throw down without looking for the answer and that answer lies with a respected participant here on this very forum.

So, I'll do your leg work and plant that link you so need to have as fact.

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/02files/Navy_Secrets.html

Your participation focused on irrelevant words since it was a thread on a lake walker monster which I hoped someone would have more input to the story rather than focus on the little stuff.

I know when someone comes on and wants links handed to them, the thread is going in the toilet tango spookz style.
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ArMaP

Quote from: Gigas on June 29, 2014, 07:14:11 PM
Unfortunately you operate on tango spookz principles and I, being an old hand at forum fighting know your position well.
I operate on my own principles, I am not responsible for any problems you may have with other sites I am a member of (is this sentence correctly written?), unless it was something I personally did to you on those sites. If it was, please point it.

QuoteYou see, you did indeed throw down without looking for the answer and that answer lies with a respected participant here on this very forum.

So, I'll do your leg work and plant that link you so need to have as fact.

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/02files/Navy_Secrets.html
Links are not facts, regardless of being from a "respected member" or not, specially when those links are to a page full of "There are stories", "maybe" and "let's assume". And yes, I was aware of those theories, but I haven't seen any fact supporting them.

QuoteYour participation focused on irrelevant words since it was a thread on a lake walker monster which I hoped someone would have more input to the story rather than focus on the little stuff.
My participation started to point that you were wrong in your assumption that "Since the lake is salt water, the ocean must have a way in walker lake", as there is no need for a salt lake to have a connection with the ocean for it to be salty.

QuoteI know when someone comes on and wants links handed to them, the thread is going in the toilet tango spookz style.
You appear to have some kind of obsession with that, and that's not good.

PS: from what I have seen about Walker Lake, it's not even a salt water lake, as it has fresh water fish.