Operation Protective Edge - The Israeli Palestinian-Terriorist War

[A51Watcher]

A good BBC documentary on the history of the area from all sides, that includes a lot of information not generally known about the history,

...but it also excludes information that is generally known that is very relevant to the situation.

Ah well. Educate yourself from various sources to achieve a balanced perspective.


At the end of the day it all boils down to fighting over 'holy land'.

Is there a shortage of real estate in the middle east that the Arabs could live on?

Or how about land the Jews could live on?


Or course not. There are vast uninhabited territories in the region that either or both could live on, nowhere near each other.

But they don't want THAT land, they want the HOLY land.

Nothing else will do.



I would also like to commend the UN on the genius of awarding Jews an official homeland smack dab in the middle of all the Arab countries.

What could possibly go wrong?

[robomont]

just go to walmart and look at the foods that would be supplied in war:
they are labeled Great Value.GV,i call that gov.
because im a cheapskate,i buy these products.right now its dehydrated coffee and cheese and raisins.these are leftovers after the gov gets its bunker allotment.the leftover is sold to the general public .this sign is how i know its coming.i think i read that peanuts store for 15 years.the peanuts i bought were from five years ago.so less than ten years left for the big one.
the ammo olbummer bought was enough for a war plus it keeps the kids from going out and getting skilled on cheap ammo.this keeps civil war from breaking out during the draft.but it also shows that guns will not be the primary weapon.video gamers will be.drones created by the millions using 3d printers .

[Littleenki]

I sure am glad youre back, Robo, you have a keen eye for reality and the escalations of another religion based bout of conflict, and how the teens of today will be the cannon fodder of tomorrow in a apocalyptic scenario which is unfolding before our very eyes right now.

Religion was created to control those who will not follow the elitist status quo, and it always will be the tool of the insane to mold and program the mindless masses who think in animalistic and primitive ways. Its too bad humanity as a whole fails to recognize the steps which are occurring now, to assemble a complete package of subdued populace, and an even more critically mindless mindset among the laity.

Each new incredible and absurd story such as the one surrounding these children is just a piece of the pie which will further enable the elitist factions to finally make their move and fulfill their sick prophecies of a slave planet full of blindsided religious occupants, who think that going to war like sheep to the slaughter is the way Jesus would want them to do it.

The Israel/Palestine battle will truly be a seed of doom in the new world of war, even though the area likely will be turned to slag if the battle rages on but a few more years.

Humanity and its inability to think for itself as a whole will eventually be its undoing...one controversial tool of a news story at a time until the pot runneth over and we all become victims of our apathy and subsequent failure to be the masters of our own minds and cultures....the new Atlantis, perhaps?

[Norval]

The Head Honcho of the Universe stated what the boarders of Israel were to be over two thousand years ago, , , , , go ahead and argue all yah wants too, , , , I'll be over there smoking a big fattie and watching the show, , , 

Read your BIBLES

[Littleenki]

The Head Honcho of the Universe stated what the boarders of Israel were to be over two thousand years ago, , , , , go ahead and argue all yah wants too, , , , I'll be over there smoking a big fattie and watching the show, , , 

Read your BIBLES

Puff,Puff,Pass, right Norval? 

Read the bible.

Great advice indeed, amigo. Gold for you and Robo today.

Sadly, the issue may not be failing to read the bible for most, but understanding it as they read it and discern nothing but the latest quagmire of so called "scholarly translations" of that horribly disfigured and woefully mutated book of the Hebrew people's viewpoints on THEIR own history.

Ham anyone?

If I may share a favorite tome from a time gone by, to help those who dont clearly see the forest through the trees, I offer this.....sure, it may not touch on more recent dna and genetic marker research, yet it does not fall prey to current (20th/21st century) bastardizations which are so prevalent in the minds of modern religious followers.

Preadamites by Alexander Winchell

https://openlibrary.org/books/OL7139797M/Preadamites

The knowledge is there for those who do as Norval has suggested...read the bible-but only as a singular tool in a massive toolbox for the mind.

After reading the classics such as this one, many a religious person has jettisoned their dumbed down understanding of such a creation as this tiny planet of miniscule and insignificant lifeforms in the entire picture of the so called universe, in favor of a humble viewpoint of our ever so small speck of occupation here on Earth.

Segmented into factions which take to war, although our dna is identical, and hence the mindless and insane perpetuate the disagreements with blood and tears.

As for the laity and mindless followers of post pleistocene pablum, they shall wallow in the simplistic desire to war with and kill one another for beliefs and ideals which are so clearly to the open minded individual not worth even lighting a fart over.

The Israel/Palestine conflict is just the latest in a long line of religious differences which serve to evacuate freethinking and occupy the minds of a pair of peoples who were cast into a pit to battle it out to the end over a half century ago by those doing as Robomont has stated...planning for the non-future of the region in the throes of instability and conflagratory irony.

But in this conflict we must remember religion is but one weapon used by those who wish to conquer and control. The great agenda is far more overreaching.

Like a smart kid on the playground getting two kids to fight for his viewing pleasure, Israel and Palestine are just patsies for the ultimate endgame of a sick world elite, who are now sitting back enjoying the show with a big bowl of popcorn, a gigantic soda and some Raisinets in a theater of insanity.

Roll the credits, and stick a fork in them, very possibly they both soon will be but a hazy memory on a land soiled by radiation and destruction.

Again.

[Littleenki]

I would also like to commend the UN on the genius of awarding Jews an official homeland smack dab in the middle of all the Arab countries.

What could possibly go wrong?

Never has a more simply true statement been made....like placing hapless herring in a tank full of hungry mackerel......

[rdunk]

Operation Protective Edge Day #5

IDF begins evacuating Gazans before stepped up air strikes.

The IDF has begun evacuating residents of northern Gaza, and other areas in the coastal enclave from which heavy and long-range rockets are being fired at Israel, ahead of a stepped-up campaign of air raids that will target Hamas leaders hiding under large residential buildings, a senior army source warned Saturday night.

"We are moving to a more significant case. Since the leaders are hiding under homes and using human shields, we are initiating the evacuation of civilians in Gaza before stepping up attacks. Until now, we've tried to use minimal force to lower civilian casualties. That explains how, even though we have hit 1300 targets, the civilian casualty rate is so low," the source said.

http://www.jpost.com/Operation-Protective-Edge/IDF-begins-evacuating-Gazans-before-stepped-up-air-strikes-362504

[robomont]

its easier to steal unoccupied land.now if israel is really caring ,they will adopt families from gaza but i bet they push them into palestine or somewhere else.

wish to make a bet on where israels heart really lies.

[rdunk]

Robo, it is obvious where the Israeli hearts lie - they lie in the stopping of the arab/hamas terrorist's ambitions to destroy Israel. There would be no war going on over there if not for ongoing attacks by those who deny Israel's rights as a recognized country.

I was in Israel 20 years ago, and things aren't much different now, as was then. Continually, the muslim countries attack attack attack. The problem for the muslims is, Israel is far better prepared today for whoever might come against them than they were even back then. The people of Israel are peace-loving, but they will and do fight strongly against those who violate their country and their people.

However, I do strongly believe there is far more to the muslim & Israeli "wars" than simply the war itself. But then, that is for a discussion in the Spiritual board, and I am not getting into that. I will just say, the God of Israel is their strength, and they/HE does win in the end! And "the end" is playing out, over the years, before our very eyes!

[WhatTheHey]

  Hey rdunk, I just wanted to say THANK YOU.  I can't do anything but agree with this...

"Folks, this is an extremely serious situation that has been brewing for a long long time, and this could eventually lead to the involvement of many other countries, including the United States. There is much at stake for both, and it is likely neither will stop until in one or the other is in total defeat - and this could be/or is Israel against much of the muslim world."

  This too is a great statement.....

"Because of the seriousness of this situation, I believe it worthwhile for us to have a place here for status, updating, and reporting informationally the circumstances as this war continues. Small wars can be the fusing point of world wars. Right now we are on the sidelines, but very quickly that could change for all of us, wherever we live."

  It's great to be deep into and on top of the information that is available. Having a few different perspectives is always a good idea too. It gives us a better overall picture of what is really happening.  So we can make the best choices we can!
  Finding one's way through the maze of misinformation and alike is difficult to say the least. But with a thread like this and input from many minds we stand a better chance of figuring things out.
  May the human race get all the help it can, from wherever it may come from! A prayer can, if it is part of the will of the living universe, help greatly! The projected thoughts and feelings of the many can influence the thoughts and feelings of the rest.
  Leave us then to push ourselves to love one another as we love ourselves and never relent!

  If we don't try it, we'll never know if it works or not!
  Good luck to us all!

WhatTheHey (Gold 2 U)

[rdunk]

WhatTheH, thanks for your comments, and I thank ALL for commenting. I simply started this OP, but it is for all of us to comment as we wish. Certainly we don't all agree on everything, but I would bet that we all agree that this "war" could very well affect all of us as it continues! And, it is pretty obvious, the muslim intent is to conquer the world for the muslim and sharia law - and that my friends is where all of this us headed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There are many countries now who have come under such muslim domination, who were not muslim before. Are we next, wherever we are?

[WhatTheHey]

  You're welcome and.......I would like to add.....the TRICK is to survive without becoming what you despise!
The TREAT is knowing that even un-to death if we hold our believes true to our hearts, nothing can change us or drag us away from what we hold dear.
  It is my belief that the hearts and/or minds of us all, hold our future in a more tangible and reactionary way than we are aware of now.

Thanks again!

Great stuff.

WhatTheHey

[rdunk]

I am not sure whether any country actually listens to what the UN says. Of course, as a country Israel is subject to listening to the UN, but hamas and other muslims are simply a bunch of people fighting with Israel, so I guess they are actually not subject to the whims of the UN.

UN calls for Israeli-Palestinian cease-fire

The U.N. Security Council called Saturday for a cease-fire in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict centered on the Gaza Strip.

A council statement approved by all 15 members calls for de-escalation of the violence, restoration of calm and a resumption of direct negotiations between Israelis and Palestinians aimed at achieving a comprehensive peace agreement based on a two-state solution.

The statement calls for "the reinstitution of the November 2012 cease-fire" brokered by Egypt, but gives no time frame for when it should take effect.

Palestinian U.N. envoy, Riyad Mansour, said the Palestinians' understanding is that the cease-fire should go into effect immediately.

He said the Palestinians will be watching closely to see if the Israelis respond to the council's call, stressing that if they don't "we have a lot of tools in our arsenal."


More:
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/07/12/israel-strikes-gaza-mosque-believed-to-be-hiding-weapons-as-death-toll-tops-120/?intcmp=latestnews

[Gigas]

Gaza genocide and criminal rogue Israel

There are 147 articles of the Fourth Geneva Convention that were supposed to protect the Al-Sammounis and everyone else in Gaza. And if you look at all of the human rights reports that have been produced on Gaza, you will see that Israel has violated almost each and every one of these 147 articles of the Fourth Geneva Convention with respect to the civilian population of Gaza such as the Al-Sammounis.

Now, Israel has maintained that it is no longer the occupying power in Gaza and therefore is not bound by the Fourth Geneva Convention and the 1907 Hague Regulations because it withdrew its troops from Gaza. That does not change the situation legally. They are dead wrong. Professor Richard Falk, the Special Rapporteur for Palestine, appointed by the UN Human Rights Council itself had said, "No, this is nonsense, Israel is still the occupying power in Gaza." His predecessor, Professor John Dugard of South Africa, has also taken for the same position.  The International Committee of Red Cross has taken the same position.  Why is that the case?

But clearly it is Israel that exercises control over Gaza. They bomb it. They artillery shell it. They attack it. They invade it at will. So, of course, they exercise control over Gaza, and for that reason, they remain the belligerent occupant of Gaza subject to the Fourth Geneva Convention of 1949 that protects all the civilians in Gaza, and the Hague Regulation of 1907 that also protects the land and the environment of Gaza as well as to some extent, the civilians. So, this is the legal regime applicable to Gaza.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/07/11/370869/gaza-genocide-and-criminal-rogue-israel/

[thorfourwinds]

As for the laity and mindless followers of post pleistocene pablum,
they shall wallow in the simplistic desire to war with and kill one another for beliefs
and ideals which are so clearly to the open minded individual not worth even lighting a fart over.

GOLD !




Norval...is that fattie Rad-Free?

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