'Lost World' reached: 20 million yr old Antarctic lake 'drilled'

[spacemaverick]

'Lost World' reached: 20 million yr old Antarctic lake 'drilled'

Scientist have finally drilled through to the lost lake under Antartica.  Now let us see what they find!

From rt.com

http://rt.com/news/antarctic-million-secrets-lake-583/

[HeywoodFloyd]

Thank you, spacemaverick!

Great Find!

There is an article also on Fox News:
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/02/06/russian-scientists-reach-buried-antarctic-lake-vostok/

for those who are interested, the thread on ATS discussing Lake Vostok drilling completed
is here:

Russian scientists reach buried Antarctic Lake Vostok
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread806014/pg1

[Amaterasu]

I look forward to any reports!  Of course...if They find evidence of ancient civilizations or ET's, it will be suppressed.

Let's hope not.

[Ellirium113]

I look forward to any reports!  Of course...if They find evidence of ancient civilizations or ET's, it will be suppressed.

Let's hope not.

It won't be suppressed...it will be reverse engineered and released into the masses as the next killer biowarfare trick to get us all pumped for taking the next round of vaccines. 

They couldn't wait to weaponize the bird-flu, I am certain in a year we'll have found out about what they made from the viruses etc. down there.

[HeywoodFloyd]

I look forward to any reports!  Of course...if They find evidence of ancient civilizations or ET's, it will be suppressed.

Let's hope not.

I'm afraid that anything truly significant will be kept under wraps.

The 2 key questions are:


1.- Which is the heat source that warms Lake Vostok up to 68°F ?

2.- What is the "thing" that generates the magnetic anomaly at Lake Vostok?


I have some ideas about this, but I guess we shall never have the true answers...

Which is your take? or speculation?

[spacemaverick]

The Lost World of Lake Vostok

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-lost-world-of-lake-vostok/

This is a playlist for the lost world of Lake Vostok.  A background on the find etc...

[starwarp2000]

'Lost World' reached: 20 million yr old Antarctic lake 'drilled'

Scientist have finally drilled through to the lost lake under Antartica.  Now let us see what they find!

From rt.com

http://rt.com/news/antarctic-million-secrets-lake-583/

20 million yrs ago, wow!, that would put it in the Early Miocene... interesting to see what this brings.
The current Continental Drift Theories put Antarctica in the South, but more recent ones, put it it on the Equator.
Will be interesting to see if this doesn't match the current theories, whether they will bury the findings or not!

[spacemaverick]

Some interesting theories regarding the Lake Vostok area.  Many of these have been heard before.  Nothing can be substantiated but makes for interesting read.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/antarctica/antartica09.htm

"The inspiration for this article began in the summer of 1996, when a series of email messages began to appear suggesting the possibility that "someone" or "something" was surreptitiously removing all recent maps of Antarctica.



The notion was so outrageous that even die-hard conspiracy theorists found themselves having to clarify the subject - it wasn't that Big Brother and his henchmen were ripping map pages out of every World Almanac and atlas in the country, it had merely become harder to obtain recent maps on Antarctica.

Intrigued by the electronic statements, I placed a call to Penn-Oh-West Maps in Pittsburgh to check on the availability of Antarctic projections. The storeowner's response was startling:

"Sorry, sir. All our new maps of South Pole are on back order. Must be some kind of problem with the USGS."

The United States Geological Service, or USGS, produces the most detailed maps available, such as the 7.5-minute series topographic maps at a 1:20,000 scale.



Nor is the USGS planet-bound - their expertise extends to detailed maps of the Moon, Mars, and Venus."

The above quote came from the link above.

[Amaterasu]

I'm afraid that anything truly significant will be kept under wraps.

The 2 key questions are:


1.- Which is the heat source that warms Lake Vostok up to 68°F ?

2.- What is the "thing" that generates the magnetic anomaly at Lake Vostok?


I have some ideas about this, but I guess we shall never have the true answers...

Which is your take? or speculation?

I might presume geothermal on #1.  But I don't give it 100% probability.  Could be something far more interesting...  Alien v. Predator?

[Lunica]

Some interesting theories regarding the Lake Vostok area.  Many of these have been heard before.  Nothing can be substantiated but makes for interesting read.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/antarctica/antartica09.htm

"The inspiration for this article began in the summer of 1996, when a series of email messages began to appear suggesting the possibility that "someone" or "something" was surreptitiously removing all recent maps of Antarctica.



The notion was so outrageous that even die-hard conspiracy theorists found themselves having to clarify the subject - it wasn't that Big Brother and his henchmen were ripping map pages out of every World Almanac and atlas in the country, it had merely become harder to obtain recent maps on Antarctica.

Intrigued by the electronic statements, I placed a call to Penn-Oh-West Maps in Pittsburgh to check on the availability of Antarctic projections. The storeowner's response was startling:

"Sorry, sir. All our new maps of South Pole are on back order. Must be some kind of problem with the USGS."

The United States Geological Service, or USGS, produces the most detailed maps available, such as the 7.5-minute series topographic maps at a 1:20,000 scale.



Nor is the USGS planet-bound - their expertise extends to detailed maps of the Moon, Mars, and Venus."

The above quote came from the link above.

Never heard of this. I think its significant information when talking about the arctic in relation to all the conspiracies. thanks!

[zerocd]

Some interesting theories regarding the Lake Vostok area.  Many of these have been heard before.  Nothing can be substantiated but makes for interesting read.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/antarctica/antartica09.htm

"The inspiration for this article began in the summer of 1996, when a series of email messages began to appear suggesting the possibility that "someone" or "something" was surreptitiously removing all recent maps of Antarctica.



The notion was so outrageous that even die-hard conspiracy theorists found themselves having to clarify the subject - it wasn't that Big Brother and his henchmen were ripping map pages out of every World Almanac and atlas in the country, it had merely become harder to obtain recent maps on Antarctica.

Intrigued by the electronic statements, I placed a call to Penn-Oh-West Maps in Pittsburgh to check on the availability of Antarctic projections. The storeowner's response was startling:

"Sorry, sir. All our new maps of South Pole are on back order. Must be some kind of problem with the USGS."

The United States Geological Service, or USGS, produces the most detailed maps available, such as the 7.5-minute series topographic maps at a 1:20,000 scale.



Nor is the USGS planet-bound - their expertise extends to detailed maps of the Moon, Mars, and Venus."

The above quote came from the link above.

Loved the link! Thanks SM

[HeywoodFloyd]

I might presume geothermal on #1.  But I don't give it 100% probability.  Could be something far more interesting...  Alien v. Predator?

I bet on your 2nd... something along those lines.


Fact #1 is they hide something.
(see also the previous post by spacemaverick - interesting!!)

"The inspiration for this article began in the summer of 1996, when a series of email messages began to appear suggesting the possibility that "someone" or "something" was surreptitiously removing all recent maps of Antarctica.

Intrigued by the electronic statements, I placed a call to Penn-Oh-West Maps in Pittsburgh to check on the availability of Antarctic projections. The storeowner's response was startling:

"Sorry, sir. All our new maps of South Pole are on back order. Must be some kind of problem with the USGS."

The United States Geological Service, or USGS, produces the most detailed maps available, such as the 7.5-minute series topographic maps at a 1:20,000 scale.

Fact #2 is they spent tens of millions of $$ in all the drilling.
(and those guys do not spend those amounts just for fun...)

Fact #3 is they took 22 years for the drilling
(something smells here)


zorgon reported in a post on ATS that the overall age of the ice cap above Lake Vostok
is just 420,000 years, not 20 MILLION !! - zorgon posted ice core samples data.
(why now they lie? Why do they now spread this unsubstanciated figure of 20 million years?)

1.- Which is the heat source that warms Lake Vostok up to 68°F ?

2.- What is the "thing" that generates the magnetic anomaly at Lake Vostok?

I have some personal ideas and hints that the ice cap could be even less than that - let's say 12,000 years  - but this is another topic, for another thread.


What could be under Lake Vostok producing those 2 anomalies?
Let me go wild, speculating...


I think could be one of these:

1.- An ancient Alien Spaceship buried there for 12,000 years (or more)

2.- A sort of "Electromagnetic Beacon" (the scenario of "2001: A Space Odyssey" - the Monolith)


In case this is the truth, we shall never know. You can bet.
(Unless some insider gives us some hints...)

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

Didn't they make a couple of movies about this? First one in the 50's, with James Arness as the 'creature'.....

[sky otter]

What could be under Lake Vostok producing those 2 anomalies?
Let  ME    go wild, speculating...



Lake Superior has some of the same traits and has huge deposits of hemitite and other ores
so using that as a basis
if a huge meteor crashed there way back it could even be minerals or other things yet unknown to
us.  or it could even be a funnel to the hot earth core..if there is such a thing..
that's my wild hypothesis


http://books.google.com/books?id=mQcNAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA25&lpg=PA25&dq=strange+magnetics+of+lake+superior&source=bl&ots=Im_GmMT-n7&sig=fnkUGMMc88QdsF8crwzc7_Kan2Y&hl=en&sa=X&ei=lPIxT47CAerLsQLxhbXzBg&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=strange%20magnetics%20of%20lake%20superior&f=false

[sky otter]

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46309166/ns/technology_and_science-science/
Russian scientists reach lake under Antarctica
Gigantic freshwater reservoir may harbor life from Earth's distant past
By Vladimir Isachenkov

updated 1 hour 47 minutes ago 2012-02-08T17:10:57
Print Font: +-MOSCOW — After more than two decades of drilling in Antarctica, Russian scientists have reached the surface of a gigantic freshwater lake hidden under miles of ice for some 20 million years — a lake that may hold life from the distant past and clues to the search for life on other planets.

Reaching Lake Vostok is a major discovery avidly anticipated by scientists around the world hoping that it may allow a glimpse into microbial life forms, not visible to the naked eye, that existed before the Ice Age. It may also provide precious material that would help look for life on the ice-crusted moons of Jupiter and Saturn or under Mars' polar ice caps where conditions could be similar.

"It's like exploring another planet, except this one is ours," Columbia University glaciologist Robin Bell told The Associated Press by email.

......

"There is no other place on Earth that has been in isolation for more than 20 million years," said Lev Savatyugin, a researcher with the AARI. "It's a meeting with the unknown."

Savatyugin said scientists hope to find primeval bacteria that could expand the human knowledge of the origins of life.

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."We need to see what we have here before we send missions to ice-crusted moons, like Jupiter's moon Europa," he said.

Lake Vostok is 160 miles (250 kilometers) long and 30 miles (50 kilometers) across at its widest point, similar in area to Lake Ontario. It lies about 3.8 kilometers (2.4 miles) beneath the surface and is the largest in a web of nearly 400 known subglacial lakes in Antarctica. The lake is warmed underneath by geothermal energy.

The project, however, has drawn strong fears that 60 metric tons (66 tons) of lubricants and antifreeze used in the drilling may contaminate the pristine lake. The Russian researchers have insisted the bore would only slightly touch the lake's surface and that a surge in pressure will send the water rushing up the shaft where it will freeze, immediately sealing out the toxic chemicals.

AP
Russian researchers at the Vostok station in Antarctica pose for a picture after reaching subglacial lake Vostok. Scientists hold the sign reading "05.02.12, Vostok station, boreshaft 5gr, lake at depth 3769.3 metres." Lukin said about 1.5 cubic meters (50 cubic feet) of kerosene and freon poured up to the surface from the boreshaft, proof that the lake water streamed up from beneath, froze, and blocked the hole.

The scientists will later remove the frozen sample for analysis in December when the next Antarctic summer comes.

.......

The drilling in the area began in 1989 and dragged on slowly due to funding shortages, equipment breakdowns, environmental concerns and severe cold.

While temperatures on the Vostok Station on the surface above have registered the coldest ever recorded on Earth, reaching minus 89 degrees Celsius (minus 128 degrees Fahrenheit), the water in the lake is warmed by the giant pressure of the ice crust and geothermal energy underneath.

The Russian team reached the lake just before they had to leave at the end of the Antarctic summer season.



AP Science Writer Seth Borenstein contributed to this report from Washington