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Triangle UFO Above Germany Leaves Questions In Its Wake

Started by astr0144, August 07, 2014, 05:04:45 AM

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astr0144

Triangle UFO Above Germany Leaves Questions In Its Wake

Looks interesting on an initial view !...But a later photo raises a concern !




When a UFO video seems too good to be true -- is it?

We've pointed out many times how difficult it is to identify hoaxes among UFO photos and videos, and computer technology has just added to the confusion. With the right app or Photoshop elements, even youngsters can create and post real-looking, out-of-this-world UFOs to YouTube faster than you can say, "ET, phone home." But the footage doesn't always hold up under expert scrutiny.




Consider this recent example: A triangular UFO was reportedly videotaped over Kassel, Germany, on June 26 by a man who was taping his son playing in a park, reports the

Scott C. Waring, who runs the UFO Sightings Daily site, thinks it's the genuine article.

"The fact that the person blurred out the face of the kid and didn't get the UFO in the dead center of the video is what causes me to believe this is real," he said. "Also, the lighting and shading on the UFO matches that of the trees and the bars of [the] jungle gym."

But is that analysis enough to give this UFO the seal of approval? Other experts say no.

"There are two giveaway segments" that show the UFO is computer-generated, said Marc Dantonio, chief photo and video analyst for the Mutual UFO Network. "As the object is first seen, you notice that the cameraman shifts the camera up and down a bit. The object should not be affected by this motion at all."




Dantonio, who was featured on last month's Syfy Channel documentary, "Aliens on the Moon: The Truth Exposed," told The Huffington Post in an email that the triangular object in this Germany video should appear to move smoothly through the sky. "Its path, however, indicates anything but. As the camera moves, the object shifts in the sky in direct correlation to the movements of the camera.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/06/triangle-ufo-over-germany_n_5639700.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592

deuem

The photo of where it shows in front of the post could be just from poor video rate. I have gone up against this before on UT. With the real master it would show crisp lines and not a blured out extension. Need the original with no compression by UT.

astr0144

I have to say that it looked quite good until seeing that last photo..

It maybe a real object being filmed.. but it looks like a man made TR3  which is not such a big issue compared to if it was an ET craft !

deuem

IMO: Well the craft itself has a small field around it, sort of like the B2 I just did for PMW. So it is sitting at the 50% mark untill I can view a high quality version. Low res tends to place certain objects in front of another. The hi res non compressed original would show it for sure one way or the other. Other than that, nice playground. If it is a fake then shame on him for using kids to push junk. If it is real then the why are the kids not going crazy? None of them said one word and neither did he to the kids. Not even a hey look at that.  Interesting but as I also say I was not there.

Flux

If I was filming I would have it centered in the middle and most likely be sighting it over top of my camera/phone as well (something I do while filming as it helps me align the object). I would have also kept the camera filming even if I lowered the camera/phone while running to a better location to film because if I saw that in the sky there would be no way I would let that opportunity go.

I'm on Skype Deuem so I'll drop the 720p video file in the box.
Bugger!

ArMaP

The first thing I noticed was that the triangle looked as sharp as the objects closer to the camera, with no sign of "distance fog". It also looks like it moves a little sideways from time to time, but that could always be part of the pilot's plan. :)

Littleenki

Looks like a McPherson strut top mount from a Ford Escort..jes sayin.....

Le
Hermetically sealed, for your protection


Flux

Small hobby grade drone (custom).

Deuem and I spoke about this last night. I pointed out a couple of things I noticed in the video to Deuem which looked odd like the sky and craft was added into the back ground but no cutting or pasting could be found around the trees or other objects from Deuem running his processes over it.  Deuem mentioned about the post where the craft goes behind was twitching/jumping a little (that's when I mentioned about the sky/craft being added). Deuem process didn't pick up any 'ET' type energy fields as you would fine from other known craft.

There are children/people in the back ground so we are in a park area. There is very little wind in the air shown by the lack of movement in the trees which makes it an ideal day to flying a small drone/blimp like craft. You'll notice that the craft does bump up and down a little as though there a little bit of turbulence affecting it's flight which is seen in a lot of RC drone videos.

Bugger!

Lunica

 ::)

Why not move the camera a little when the UFO is getting behind the pillar. Since the filmer is likely trying to make a good capture of the UFO he is a little static.
Also for CGI, to make it more genuine, you could deliberate chose to let the ufo pass behind the pillar. Then it is likely the filmer did not move the camera since the object was not there when filming.

And why is the filmer not moving to the left ?!?! when the ufo is getting out of sight. Dont forget, he is making the 100 million video... I would have want the ufo on film as long as possible.

Childs not reacting

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deuem

I ran every test at this I had and found no CGI at all. A stabilized vid needs to be made. And as I have said countless times, What I or you might have doe is irrelevant to any video. Maybe he had a nother small kid by the hand out of sight and was using one hand. We simply don't know. Maybe it was so clear to them that there was no panic and he just wanted to get the blimp on video.

This triangle as far as I can tell is in the video and has reflection to prove it as they change. I think it is a nice, one up model blimp made by a hobby maker and he was out testing it on a windless day. You can see it rack to one side once and also do a double bounce near the pole.

I think the park was on the left, No trees in that direction and I think he did go follow it just to find a guy with RC controls in the field. Pixels put it in rather close. I think no more than a hundred or more feet and since a TRB3 is 300 to 600 feet it would either cover the sky or be so far away it would be out of focus.

SO IMHO, a really nice blimp. Most likely custom hand made. I bet we will see more of this at night when he gets the lights to work.

Lunica

Your method has proved itself :D, so taken that into account a blimp seems very good possible.

The reaction I described still stands since the video maker knew it was not something extraordinary what he was filming.
IMO in a case like this where a (real) UFO would have been filmed so close in front of you, you react different then presented in this video.

ArMaP

I am having trouble using my video editing programs, so I haven't been able to post the images/video I wanted, but I'm still trying. :)

And, based on what I see on the frames I an trying to post, I think it's CGI.

deuem

QuoteIMO in a case like this where a (real) UFO would have been filmed so close in front of you, you react different then presented in this video.

In person this might have been very easy to detect by eye, in live 3D, that it was a hobby craft, Hence not much reaction as you said.

But I will take this moment to say, How a person reacts compared to how you or anyone else would react is always very different and I try not to judge them on it.  I try my best to ignore the audio and go after the meat. With todays tech, any audio can be changed out in a few minutes.

It could be as simple as the kids have seen it many times before and it is his first time and wanted to get it on film.

So IMO, Guy Toy, I want one. Make mine, Deuem silver with some purple racing stripes.

ArMap, good luck on the CGI findings. Make sure to use the 720 version.

ArMaP

I was finally able to do what I wanted with the video. :)

I used the 1280x720 version, cropped the area with the UFO, resized it to 200%, slowed it to 5 frames per second (the original was 25) and stabilised it. This is the result.



For download:
(I hope it works, if it doesn't I can send the file).

There are three occasions that look suspicious:
1 - When the UFO starts to go behind the pole.


2 - WHen it comes from behind the pole, as on the opening post.


3 - When it gets to the tree, that I think is the best occasion that shows that this is CGI, as it appears to pass in front of some branches.