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[Sinny]

Don't be daft - your a commodity of the state the moment your birth certificate is minted.

Being part of 'society' isn't a choice these days..

[ArMaP]

Don't be daft - your a commodity of the state the moment your birth certificate is minted.

Care to explain?

Being part of 'society' isn't a choice these days..

There's always a choice, if you want it and want to accept the consequences.

[Sinny]

A Google search will tell you how your Birth Certificate. Ties you to your Nation and it's debt. At least here anyway - dunno about where you are.

I was forced into this society, as I am required to work in this place to earn monies, or rely on thi state for monies to purchase Identification to allow me to leave the country.

That's from the off - all land here is claimed already.

I am stuck in someone elses nation, and I need to join their system to attempt to leave their system.

ETA: Of course we could sit here for hours and debate the concepts of 'choice' and 'risk' ... But I can't be bothered to do that..

[ArMaP]

A Google search will tell you how your Birth Certificate. Ties you to your Nation and it's debt.

A Google search can also show me that Justin Bieber is great. 

At least here anyway - dunno about where you are.

Probably different, our system was created by a real dictator.

[sky otter]

ArMaP quote

There's always a choice, if you want it and want to accept the consequences.



golden golden golden

[spacemaverick]

The ArMaP quote golden indeed.

[Amaterasu]

ArMaP quote

There's always a choice, if you want it and want to accept the consequences.



golden golden golden

Wow.  Rock and hard place is where most of Humanity sits when it comes to choices, consequences.  But it's all good.  We "chose" it.  Heh.

[rdunk]

Wow.  Rock and hard place is where most of Humanity sits when it comes to choices, consequences.  But it's all good.  We "chose" it.  Heh.

Making that statement is pretty easy, but how about detailing all of those "Rock and hard place is where most of Humanity sits" PLACES, so we can know whether to accept this statement or not. Where in this world are you talking about? United States? Australia? Great Britain" France? Israel? Canada? Japan? Mexico? Brazil? Russia? India? China? Switzerland? Norway? Spain? Iceland? Countries of Africa? Greece? Italy? ...............................?

Life is life wherever people live, and people live as they can (choices or consequences) where they live.  Of course, life is a "choice" for every single individual, and choosing life means living as required by whoever is in charge/however governed. From the Amazon forests to the streets of New York - -  to live humans do have choices to make - basically deciding that to live and eat, one must work to get what one needs. Even the uneducated tribal groups know that for fact, and have always worked and struggled as necessary to maintain their lives! Yet, in recent times and with more advanced countries, it seems the more education some get, the more they think a free lunch/free life is due. NOT!

[Flux]

Well today I had to make a choice whether to be pushy and get my way or just make life easier for people I could effect. I had traffic control setup road cones out the front of my place so they could merge one lane into the other 2 lanes while large trucks and a cane worked to position the tilt slab panels into the building site 2 doors down. Now I had absolutely no access into my property from the road (with a vehicle) and had a large item on the roof racks which I needed to off load into my property so I had a few choices: (note that no one living in the same complex got any notice that this work would be taking place today so it is inconvenient for all of us)

1:Drive into my drive way possible running over some road cones while trying to avoid them.

2:Stop in that lane and get them to move while endangering myself and other motorists.

3:Drive further down the road and unload the roof racks with timber I had and walk it back to my place 300-400m away.

Choice number 3 is what I took. I didn't disrupt the construction company from doing their job and didn't up set people from me being stupid and obnoxious. I'm not lazy and a little bit of extra work didn't bother me but I do know of people that would of taken options 1 or 2 and have no respect for others. I did ask the traffic control guys when they would be finishing up today and they said it would all be finished before I got home this afternoon. I did mentioned that they are completely blocking access to my property but said I understand what is going on and sorted things out myself. No dramas... no problems.... sorted.

Just thought I would share.

[sky otter]

hey Flux..perfect example and  nice choice


and some folks  are between a rock and a hard spot because of their previous choices in life
no pity party for you

[zorgon]

1:Drive into my drive way possible running over some road cones while trying to avoid them.

I would have chosen that one... 

Then got out and reset any cones I might have (but not likely ) that I would have run over.

Have actually done this several times with no consequences

[zorgon]

Option #4

Park off to the side... walk up tp the foreman and ask him to flag you into your driveway

You would be surprised at how easy that is  save walking the timbers

[rdunk]

I would have chosen that one... 

Then got out and reset any cones I might have (but not likely ) that I would have run over.

Have actually done this several times with no consequences

But then well, you do carry a sword just in case doncha??

[zorgon]

Making that statement is pretty easy, but how about detailing all of those "Rock and hard place is where most of Humanity sits" PLACES, so we can know whether to accept this statement or not. Where in this world are you talking about? United States? Australia? Great Britain" France? Israel? Canada? Japan? Mexico? Brazil? Russia? India? China? Switzerland? Norway? Spain? Iceland? Countries of Africa? Greece? Italy? ...............................?

Let us take Croatia...


Many tears ago there was Yugoslavia... a real hot spot and a dictator named Tito.

My friend in Toronto, the chap that taught me gem cutting was a Croatian. I never really paid attention to that until one day....   a fellow came into his cutting shop and innocently asked "So your from Yugoslavia?"

My friend, who was always mild mannered and easy going... exploded  "I am CROATION and don't you forget it!"

He immediately calmed down and apologized for the out burst and all was cool soon after...

Well his father is (was) a farmer in Croatia at the time... and my friend was always on him about being more outspoken politically and against Tito

But his father said  "Son I am a farmer... nothing more.  No matter who is in charge, they still need to eat"

Get the point?

[zorgon]

Wow.  Rock and hard place is where most of Humanity sits when it comes to choices, consequences.  But it's all good.  We "chose" it.  Heh.

So true....  I know first hand how people when handed a Golden Goose on a Silver Platter will chose to throw it in the trash rather than put a little effort in getting that Goose to lay its eggs

Pity really... the estimate was 4 BILLION in 10 years...  and all they had to do was bring their skills they already had to the table