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Started by thorfourwinds, August 14, 2014, 03:51:19 AM

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rdunk

Quote from: zorgon on August 22, 2014, 04:28:08 AM

Get the point?

::)

Yes, and that was pretty much what I was trying to get across in the rest of that message. Choices must be made about life things in accord with however governed, or whatever are the circumstances of life where one/we live.

Of course, many who really make it to nice or big money were and are just lucky, right? And in most cases the scenario was/is, the harder they work, the MORE LUCKY the get!! :))

Unless it is inherited, and then it is a factor of having been in the right womb at the right time!!

zorgon

Quote from: rdunk on August 22, 2014, 04:40:00 AM
Of course, many who really make it to nice or big money were and are just lucky, right? And in most cases the scenario was/is, the harder they work, the MORE LUCKY the get!! :))

Not quite right...

..it's not HARDER work that makes money it is SMARTER work and learning to use the same TOOLS those that get rich use

When you have a GOOD IDEA  that IDEA can be sold...  To gain the best value for that IDEA, the idea needs to be laid out in detail and more importantly, show HOW that IDEA can make returns on investment

I have a signed paper that proves that such an idea can translate into cash, however nothing is free in life and we had to show initiative to earn that paper

The value on that paper was $200,000,000.00



zorgon

Example of using the right TOOL...

You can take $500.00 and a small steady amount of around $150.00 a month

In 12 months you will have an A+ credit rating, 5,000.00 cash in the bank and 10,000 line of credit

12 MONTHS guaranteed

All it requires is will power

rdunk

Of course, many who really make it to nice or big money were and are just lucky, right? And in most cases the scenario was/is, the harder they work, the MORE LUCKY the get!!

Thanks for your comments Z! When I said the above, which you quoted, I was making a "tongue in cheek" statement, because there are some here who do think getting rich is all about luck, and little else. Sorry if I didn't make that clear enough! :)

In today's world, there are so many different avenues of "work" that can yield huge resulting payoffs - from writing books to coming up with popular websites on the net, as did Matt Drudge. Huge payoffs for good/simple ideas. But sitting on one's "botox" won't make it happen! :)

Flux

Quote from: zorgon on August 22, 2014, 04:18:30 AM
I would have chosen that one...  :P

Then got out and reset any cones I might have (but not likely :P ) that I would have run over.

Have actually done this several times with no consequences

::)
:) ;)
Sure I could do that but I could possible damage the companies car and also the cones which I would have to pay for which I don't really want to fork out for (I'm lucky enough to have the company car so don't want to fall out with my boss). Traffic control would report my action to the police because around my city there is plenty of road rage going on due to reconstruction of the city. I would then have to deal with the construction company for my action and then seeing the building is only just been built they could make things difficult for me later on.

Could have taken choice #4 but the lay out of the cones didn't allow me to find a park (one way 3 lane wide street) in the correct direction so by the time I found a place I could park it was just easy to off load the car and walk it back home. I'm very fit and strong so have no problem lugging the material (20+ years as a builder) plus 5-6 days a week at the gym.

I've finished work for the day sat down for dinner with a lovely glass of red wine and feel nice a fuzzy.... cheers! ;)
Bugger!

Amaterasu

Considering that the bulk of Us are malnourished, or starving, it is not because WE chose anything.  We were born into a world where poverty is rampant and NO choice is available except starving or crime.  These are the choices for a huge portion of Humanity.  And still, many choose to starve rather than resort to crime.

But all those People chose that situation, right?

And don't "pity party" ME.  I am not speaking of Myself but of all the children dying of starvation, preventable disease, and etc.  Geez. 
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

petrus4

Quote from: Amaterasu on August 22, 2014, 08:01:23 AM
Considering that the bulk of Us are malnourished, or starving, it is not because WE chose anything.

Amy,
I've noticed that one of the main ways in which I can improve my psychological state, and/or maintain a positive state, is by also maintaining a belief that I have, and make, choices.  I would personally put this in the category of Pascal's Wager, in the sense that while it is not a belief that is necessarily always true, it is still a belief that always has beneficial effects, if it is believed to be true.

Belief in our sovereignty always helps, whether or not it seems as though we actually have any in the immediate situation.
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

Amaterasu

Quote from: petrus4 on August 22, 2014, 08:29:35 AM
Amy,
I've noticed that one of the main ways in which I can improve my psychological state, and/or maintain a positive state, is by also maintaining a belief that I have, and make, choices.  I would personally put this in the category of Pascal's Wager, in the sense that while it is not a belief that is necessarily always true, it is still a belief that always has beneficial effects, if it is believed to be true.

Belief in our sovereignty always helps, whether or not it seems as though we actually have any in the immediate situation.

Oh, Petrus, I am on board with choice theory.  Within the bounds of opportunity We do have Our choices.  My point is that there are so many whose opportunity is extremely limited on this planet.  When a child dies of starvation, I CANNOT believe it was merely the child's choice.  That way leads to psychopathy.

We exist in a cocreation, with each of Us affecting the whole to varying extents, and even if We believe that all is created by Consciousness, it is not a simple "We create Our own reality," but an interweaving of all Consciousness that creates what We are a part of.

The big error in Schrodinger's Cat thought experiment is in the presumption that it is only the HUMAN observer that creates this fabric We influence.  The cat is Conscious.  Even the bacteria on and in the cat are Conscious.  The level of awareness may differ, but there is more than Human Consciousness at work.

And that child, dying of starvation, has been given VERY little choice in the fabric as We are presently weaving it.  I would weave vastly better even for that child.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

thorfourwinds

Actually, this was the headline from 13 August 2014.

Let's see what happens this time.

UPDATE

24 November 2014
7:53 PM

Ferguson Protests Grand Jury Decision WATCH LIVESTREAM VIDEO | Mediaite
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thorfourwinds

"No Indictment -
No Peace"

"Fork the Police"


... doesn't sound like 'peaceful protestors'
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thorfourwinds

EARTH AID is dedicated to the creation of an interactive multimedia worldwide event to raise awareness about the challenges and solutions of nuclear energy.

zorgon

Quote from: Amaterasu on August 22, 2014, 08:01:23 AM
We were born into a world where poverty is rampant and NO choice is available except starving or crime.  These are the choices for a huge portion of Humanity.  And still, many choose to starve rather than resort to crime.

That is the biggest pile of BULL POOP I ever heard...

Down in Mexico many are poor and starving...and drug lords rule the land... they risk their very lives at times to come to America and WORK  They take those jobs that LAZY ASS AMERICANS don't want to do... and most of them (while I do NOT support illegals) make a dam good living in a short time... with enough to send some extra back home. Hell the guy behind me drives a Humvee

Crime? sure with the illegals a portion are into drugs etc, but the vast majority come to pick your fruits and vegetables, a job few lazy Americans will touch... and soon they are the gardeners, the dry wallers, the concrete pourers  and other high paid construction jobs.  that SHOULD be filled by lazy ass Americans.

They get food stamps and even free medical, even though they are illegal. They are the 'robots' that some people here want to do all the work  :P

QuoteBut all those People chose that situation, right?

Many do  A lot of former wall street and bankers are on the streets by choice :P but what they DON'T Do is take ANY opportunity to get OUT of the situation they are born into. Yes it IS possible for most in America... its not EASY but it is POSSIBLE

QuoteAnd don't "pity party" ME.  I am not speaking of Myself but

uh huh...

Quoteof all the children dying of starvation, preventable disease, and etc.  Geez.

Well organize a charity campaign that REALLY gets the money to those who need it... not like Red Cross etc where the money goes who knows where? And maybe if certain nations would stop dumping their trash and crapping in their own water they might have less disease.

4 months after Japan's Tsunami the 5-6 BILLION collected by the Red Cross... not a dime had gone to Japan yet...  Its not like they needed any help in the IMMEDIATE time right?

::)

zorgon

Quote from: thorfourwinds on November 25, 2014, 01:21:00 AM
KKK now on scene...

So now Anon is making deals with the KKK?  Oh GOOD GRIEF





"Do you have any plans at all to take up arms and come to Ferguson?"


Ferguson, MO — The alternative media group, News2Share has filmed a sit-down meeting between Frank Ancona (Grand Wizard of the Traditionalist American Knights of the Ku Klux Klan) and Alex Poucher, a member of Anonymous.

Over the past weeks the two groups have been engaged in a particularly vicious feud stemming from their differences over the shooting of Michael Brown by officer Darren Wilson.

After the KKK released a disturbing flyer that said they will use "lethal force" against protesters, anonymous has stepped up to the plate to call them out on this threat.

Anonymous answered this apparent call to violence by hacking the KKK Twitter page and exposing many of the members of the KKK in their #hoodsoff campaign.

Anonymous also released information, which they claimed, directly connected officer Darren Wilson as well as other members of the Ferguson Police Department to the KKK.

Amazingly enough the interview between the two apparent enemies was cordial and may have served to mitigate some of the tension between these two groups.

At the beginning of the discussion Ancona states that he didn't "know too much about anonymous, but I learned some things over the last few days about what y'all stand for."
Over the last few days, the hacktivist group has doxed several members of the KKK including Ancona, releasing a deluge of personal information, including social security numbers; so he now knows quite a bit about the capabilities of Anonymous.


http://thefreethoughtproject.com/anonymous-sits-interview-kkk-leader-frank-ancona/

How come the Black Panther's missed that meeting?

:o

zorgon

The Hoods vs the Masks

The KKK scored a rare victory over Anonymous, and may as well enjoy gloating while they can. On Sunday, they somehow managed to take back their @Operation_KKK Twitter account.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/11/23/kkk-twitter-hacks-anonymous-takes-back-operation-kkk/



zorgon

A video reportedly released by the hacker collective Anonymous on Thursday warned both police in Ferguson, Missouri and the Ku Klux Klan against hurting local demonstrators, The Free Thought Project reported.

"To the KKK and police: be peaceful or you will feel the consequences," the video stated. "To the protesters: do not be afraid. We are here for you and will protect and serve you. We are the law now."


The video came in response to a message attributed to Frank Ancona, the leader of the Traditionalist American Knights of the KKK, threatening to "hunt down" Anonymous members.

"You'll be strung up next to the chimps," the KKK's message stated. "On display for the whole world to see. The Klan is to be feared, not threatened. Turn away, or face the consequences.


This is going to get interesting...

Anon has Masks and hackers on their side

KKK has Hoods and guns, and 'good ole boys' on their side