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[RUSSO]

Probably in the same place where it says that people should follow police orders.

They should start be more selective about who they pick to be their officers. Then prepare them better, because there is a lot of violent thugs disguised as police nowadays.

[zorgon]

An important point needs to be made here.  Wealth does not, in fact, create wealth.  Usury creates wealth.

You are confusing MONEY with WEALTH.  Wealth INDEED DOES create WEALTH.  I will agree that USURY is EVIL and I will further agree that wealthy people who hoard that wealth are evil... because if they SPENT that money they would actually make MORE money long term

Judaism advocated usury as a weapon against other people, but did not condone it among Jews themselves.

A Jew can go to the synagogue and get help financially to start a business. They can do this THREE TIMES if they fail the first two attempts. (after that they are considered useless )  How many people would fail three times with such an opportunity?  Not many.  Back in Toronto I was associates with a Jewish diamond merchant when I was starting out learning the gen trade...

He offered me a $5,000 "loan" to help me get equipment. This "loan" was never collected and here I am being German   So yeah there are some good people out there.

BUT wealth DOES create WEALTH

Take EBAY as an example.

Pierre Omidyar created EBAY as a place where his wife could sell her PEZ candy dispenser collection..

That simple IDEA fetched him over 7 BILLION and made Pierre one of the richest men in the world.


Pierre is a really NICE guy...  My son did the alarm system in his house. THAT was an interesting story  LOL. Pierre is French/Persian but a staunch American and philanthropist (sharing that wealth)


Pierre Omidyar at his Las Vegas home in 2007

He became a billionaire at the age of 31 with eBay's 1998 Initial Public Offering (IPO). Omidyar and his wife Pamela are well-known philanthropists who founded Omidyar Network in 2004 in order to expand their efforts beyond nonprofits to include for-profits and public policy.

Now EBAY is a HUGE NETWORK that allows EVERYONE to sell items... NO TAX, NO INCOME TAX (until you reach $20,000 a year as a business)  When you sell your personal stuff, it is used goods. Taxes already paid on it in most cases. If you sell big items, well then Capital Gains taxes apply  The first $50,000 a year are tax free

So  here is a PRIME EXAMPLE of the wealth of ONE creating potential wealth for MILLIONS

All that is required is some EFFORT... go out to thrift stores and yard sales and LOOK for cheap stuff to sell. You would be amazed at what you can find

[zorgon]

Eight Ways To Build Wealth Like Millionaires Do - Make It A Game

The economic downturn has taken its toll on Americans – business owners and workers alike. Many of those who lost their jobs had to take substantial pay cuts in order to work.  Overtime is a thing of the past and many who would like a second job find they are few and far between.  Just because times have been challenging doesn't mean it's impossible to build wealth.  In fact building wealth can actually be enjoyable, even fun.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/financialfinesse/2012/11/15/eight-ways-to-build-wealth-like-millionaires-do-make-it-a-game/

[zorgon]

They should start be more selective about who they pick to be their officers. Then prepare them better, because there is a lot of violent thugs disguised as police nowadays.

That is because few normal people want to be cops

[zorgon]

Any economist will tell you that wealth creates wealth,

The problem is that those who have no wealth... do not understand HOW this works or what it means... so they go on about their business never learning the truth

and those born into poverty have very little possibility of improving their situation due to various social contructs.

Most people assume 'wealth" and "money" are the same thing. They are NOT.

It is true that only in the Western "free" societies will these ideas of creating wealth from nothing work... but one thing is ABSOLUTELY TRUE... You MUST put REAL EFFORT into it

A recent chap in the UK... an older guy, spent years walking around with a metal detector.  Finally got lucky. UK treasure laws are still "finders keepers"  His find netted him 4 million Pounds Sterling

Point is had he NOT got his ass out there walking the fields he would not have gotten lucky

It is true that many people at the bottom of the barrel FEEL they have no choice... and years ago that was mostly true. But in today's internet world it is no longer true.  Just make a good website while sitting on your ass at home and your content can make you money. There are THOUSANDS of ways to make money in today's climate.  When you are broke you have a lot of free time.

KNOWLEDGE is MONEY  We have the internet at our finger tips. No matter how poor you are you can get access to FREE KNOWLEDGE today all the way to University level... a thing unheard of in the past

I feel as though some people on this forum just have to argue against this FACT for the sake of inflating their own ego's.

I feel some people on this forum are too stubborn to actually go out and WORK at it to find a solution to their own woes  and feel the need to whine to make them feel good and justified.  Your "FACT" is merely a biased assumption, not a real fact   

Let's pick on Amy for a second   She has graphic and writing talents... yet she focuses ALL of that onto ONE topic  that being TAP.  TAP is not selling so why not write something else in the meantime to make a few bucks?  My wife's mother was not much of a writer, but she did try a few small booklets.

One such booklet (24 pages folded in half with a cardboard cover) she wrote was about GOLD... She found the info she needed online. She was an amateur rockhound so had that knowledge. In effect the booklet was a short history of GOLD then how to find it, where and how to pan for it, etc...  This was years ago...she sold them for $4.95...    Didn't get rich BIT she sold many copies and started herself on making more.  Today she runs a small one woman publishing company from her apartment . She even tried a small magazine for rockhounds

There are THOUSANDS of ways to make money and FREE TOOLS all over the net

[RUSSO]

That is because few normal people want to be cops

and most of these few ones work behind desks.

[Sinny]

The problem is that those who have no wealth... do not understand HOW this works or what it means... so they go on about their business never learning the truth

Most people assume 'wealth" and "money" are the same thing. They are NOT.

It is true that only in the Western "free" societies will these ideas of creating wealth from nothing work... but one thing is ABSOLUTELY TRUE... You MUST put REAL EFFORT into it

A recent chap in the UK... an older guy, spent years walking around with a metal detector.  Finally got lucky. UK treasure laws are still "finders keepers"  His find netted him 4 million Pounds Sterling

Point is had he NOT got his ass out there walking the fields he would not have gotten lucky

It is true that many people at the bottom of the barrel FEEL they have no choice... and years ago that was mostly true. But in today's internet world it is no longer true.  Just make a good website while sitting on your ass at home and your content can make you money. There are THOUSANDS of ways to make money in today's climate.  When you are broke you have a lot of free time.

KNOWLEDGE is MONEY  We have the internet at our finger tips. No matter how poor you are you can get access to FREE KNOWLEDGE today all the way to University level... a thing unheard of in the past

I feel some people on this forum are too stubborn to actually go out and WORK at it to find a solution to their own woes  and feel the need to whine to make them feel good and justified.  Your "FACT" is merely a biased assumption, not a real fact   

Let's pick on Amy for a second   She has graphic and writing talents... yet she focuses ALL of that onto ONE topic  that being TAP.  TAP is not selling so why not write something else in the meantime to make a few bucks?  My wife's mother was not much of a writer, but she did try a few small booklets.

One such booklet (24 pages folded in half with a cardboard cover) she wrote was about GOLD... She found the info she needed online. She was an amateur rockhound so had that knowledge. In effect the booklet was a short history of GOLD then how to find it, where and how to pan for it, etc...  This was years ago...she sold them for $4.95...    Didn't get rich BIT she sold many copies and started herself on making more.  Today she runs a small one woman publishing company from her apartment . She even tried a small magazine for rockhounds

There are THOUSANDS of ways to make money and FREE TOOLS all over the net

My fact is a fact in every sense of the word, I used 'wealth' generally to denote economic income, (which perhaps I shouldn't, I wrote an essay on their challenged definitions just last year).

Besides that, I believe Amy was referring to 'poor' people in say 3rd World Countries (which is now politically incorrect to state), where ALL those possibilities you highlight above are VOID.

Starving African 1 year old, what can he do to improve his situation?

[spacemaverick]

and most of these few ones work behind desks.

I find this interesting...I guess I'm not normal.  I wanted to be a cop and corrections officer because I thought I could make a difference.  Soldier, cop, corrections officer....just wanted to make a difference.

Interesting set of opinions on this thread.  How many have actually walked a mile in the shoes of an officer and know what they deal with everyday?  Just a thought...

[Sinny]

I find this interesting...I guess I'm not normal.  I wanted to be a cop and corrections officer because I thought I could make a difference.  Soldier, cop, corrections officer....just wanted to make a difference.

Interesting set of opinions on this thread.  How many have actually walked a mile in the shoes of an officer and know what they deal with everyday?  Just a thought...

I presume they deal with life, like the rest of us... Further more, they make a choice to 'serve' in that role each day that they do.

[Sinny]

They should start be more selective about who they pick to be their officers. Then prepare them better, because there is a lot of violent thugs disguised as police nowadays.

The above seems to be ignoring the glaring fact that it is within the upper echlons of said organisations that have been infiltrated with these immoral persons.

How do I expect my local police force to maintain moral high standing whilst their BOSSES, Scotland Yard and MI6 are in up to 'it' by their necks?

P.s I won't apologise for my opinions, but I do apologise for my lack of diplomacy within this thread..

P.p.s National Guard got to Fergy faster than then did Hurricane Katrina...

[spacemaverick]

I presume they deal with life, like the rest of us... Further more, they make a choice to 'serve' in that role each day that they do.

Very true Sinny, very true.  I did a number of ride-a-longs here in the states before I went into the profession.  It sure opened my eyes.  I still wasn't sure until I had gone through my first year.  We have had some bad ones along the way and most get weeded out (in my area anyway).  The culture still needs to be changed though.

[spacemaverick]

The above seems to be ignoring the glaring fact that it is within the upper echlons of said organisations that have been infiltrated with these immoral persons.

How do expect my local police force to maintain moral high standing whilst their BOSSES, Scotland Yard and MI6 are in up to 'it' by their necks?

You nailed it.  The leaders set the tone for the rest of the organization...as the leadership goes so goes the department.  Truth indeed.

[thorfourwinds]

BREAKING NOW...

Advance Auto Parts just set on fire...

1451 Chambers...LaundroMat on fire...

T-Mobile store also approached...

HR Block looted...

PNC Bank...

[thorfourwinds]

These must be Al Sharpton/Jesse Jackson 'peaceful protestors'...

[thorfourwinds]