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The Matrix Traveller

Quote from: this_is_who_we_are on October 14, 2014, 12:21:08 AM
Response to: The Matrix Traveller

Perhaps I should take up my astronomical interpretations once more, and abandon this line of speculation.

NO... Just look further into it ....   :)  You might be surprised by what you find.

Amaterasu

Quote from: ArMaP on October 13, 2014, 10:11:36 PM
Tell that to all those people that died "naturally".  ::)

Um...  Prove it was ebola and not any of the other diseases We have had all along.  They SAY it's ebola, but there is no proof.  And the "reliable" tests?  Heh.

http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/10/08/death-doesnt-someones-opinion-about-death/
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Amaterasu

Quote from: Glaucon on October 13, 2014, 11:10:33 PM
Just something I feel I should clarify.  "Psychological operations" are technically anything your mind processes.

Military PSYOP groups are now oficially referred to as MISO (Military information support operations).

You mind sharing who's behind this "psyop"?

People understand "psyop" more than "MISO..."

As to who...  The "elite" pushing Agenda 21 and fulfilling the GA Guidestones, I would bet.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Glaucon

And you think the U.N. goal to sustainable development is a scheme to enslave earths population?

How many primary documents do you have concerning the mater? (From vetted think tanks)
"The beginning of wisdom comes with the definition of terms" -Socrates

"..that the people being ignorant, and always discontented, to lay the foundation of government in the unsteady opinion and uncertain humour of the people, is to expose it to certain ruin" -Locke


Glaucon

Quote from: Amaterasu on October 14, 2014, 12:49:38 AM
Um...  Prove it was ebola and not any of the other diseases We have had all along.  They SAY it's ebola, but there is no proof.  And the "reliable" tests?  Heh.

http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/10/08/death-doesnt-someones-opinion-about-death/
Are you serious?

Do you realize how much effort and methodology goes into Cause of death studies during and after an outbreak? It's a science and quite a burden statistically.

Let me ask you a serious question: What would you envision the proof to like like?

"The beginning of wisdom comes with the definition of terms" -Socrates

"..that the people being ignorant, and always discontented, to lay the foundation of government in the unsteady opinion and uncertain humour of the people, is to expose it to certain ruin" -Locke

Glaucon

"The beginning of wisdom comes with the definition of terms" -Socrates

"..that the people being ignorant, and always discontented, to lay the foundation of government in the unsteady opinion and uncertain humour of the people, is to expose it to certain ruin" -Locke

Amaterasu

I don't know what "proof" would constitute, but with an agenda (21), the history of vaccines, the fact that ebola is VERY hard to transmit, the many clearly faked footage pieces (see the other ebola thread for such vids), a glorious sum to be earned in the treatment of this hyped problem, and so on, I give highest probability that this is faked to justify forced vaccinations with the virus - which will cause a REAL problem.

But...  You can believe what You want.  [shrug]
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Amaterasu

Well, well, well.  What do Ya know.

From:  http://www.naturalnews.com/047251_Ebola_vaccine_NIH_pharmaceutical_companies.html

QuoteNIH pushing to vaccinate entire countries with Ebola vaccine


Everything that the alternative media has been warning about concerning the Ebola epidemic is now coming true, including that this latest disease scare would eventually be used by the U.S. government to push more drugs and vaccines on the gullible public.

The director of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), a division of the National Institutes of Health (NIH), recently spilled the beans to members of the Canadian press about a major component of the government's agenda with this crisis: to vaccinate everyone.

This was the implication, at least, of statements made by Dr. Anthony Fauci, who in the past has pushed vaccines for things like bird flu and swine flu. In keeping with this tradition of corruption, Dr. Fauci is now claiming that it may be impossible to stop the spread of Ebola unless everyone is vaccinated.

"It is conceivable that this epidemic will not turn around even if we pour resources into it," stated Dr. Fauci, as quoted by Modern Healthcare.

"As the epidemic gets more and more formidable and in some cases out of control it is quite conceivable, if not likely, that we may need to deploy the vaccine to the entire country to be able to shut the epidemic down. That is clearly a possibility."

Exactly which country Dr. Fauci is referring to here remains unclear. But presumably, any nation where an outbreak has been declared is susceptible to this Orwellian prospect, which could eventually include the U.S.

Much more at site.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Wrabbit2000

Quote from: Amaterasu on October 14, 2014, 11:50:22 AM
Well, well, well.  What do Ya know.

I'm really not sure I understand where you are coming from? Are you suggesting they are trying to create disease with a vaccine developed for Ebola? That would be a crazy thing to suggest, because it would require the assumption that we live in a world devoid of people capable of seeing the vaccine for what it was, and quickly too. It would assume we have no one outside this 'cabal' of science who are capable of working a high power microscope or understand what they see in it?

I've been trying to follow ya on this Ebola thing and largely held my tongue to see what you had..but you seem to have vague notions of conspiracy on little but the hunch there must be one somewhere, because...well? I guess because there always has been or always will be or must be one? I'm not clear on where the 'must be a conspiracy' here starts..since, aside from very very fringe sources, you seem a bit short on solid info to supply the starting point of curiosity here?

I could be missing something big for that evidence to start from tho? Anything solid and verifiable outside the extreme fringe and shadows of shadows?

Pimander

Quote from: Amaterasu on October 14, 2014, 01:51:51 AM
I don't know what "proof" would constitute,
This is my department

Ebola is a RNS (NOT DNA) virus, so a cheap test uses a technique called rt-PCR (reverse transcriptase PCR).  The technique basically turns the virus into DNA (the rt bit) then amplifies the DNA (the PCR bit) which.  The amplification part only works if is the Ebola virus because the primers for amplification (marked Q in the diagram below) contain a sequence of nucleotides complementary to one known to exist specifically in Ebola.


SOURCE: http://www.prionics.com/diseases-solutions/porcine-reproductive-and-respiratory-syndrome/priocheckR-prrsv-rt-pcr/


The figure above is a bar chart showing the number of cases of Ebola viral disease (EVD) in the ongoing outbreak that were reported from Guinea, by week of symptom onset in during 2014. Although cases also were reported from Liberia and Sierra Leone, as of June 18, 2014, the majority (398) of the 528 total EVD cases had been reported from Guinea.
SOURCE: Meredith G. Dixon, MD1,2, Ilana J. Schafer, DVM. Ebola Viral Disease Outbreak — West Africa, 2014

NOtice that many of the cases in the above graph are confirmed cases (i.e. lab confirmed).


So can we get back to the facts now?  Ebola is real.  The apocalypse is not. :P


Amaterasu

Here's a bit that shows the thought processes in the DOD...  Do You think They haven't considered worse?






Pim, as Jon Rappaport points out, that PCR test says NOTHING about how much of the virus is present.  One virus does not a sick Person make.  Millions upon millions do.  Here is His article:

http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/10/06/the-ebola-test-let-the-tests-inventor-speak/
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Amaterasu

Quote from: Wrabbit2000 on October 14, 2014, 12:28:58 PM
I'm really not sure I understand where you are coming from? Are you suggesting they are trying to create disease with a vaccine developed for Ebola? That would be a crazy thing to suggest, because it would require the assumption that we live in a world devoid of people capable of seeing the vaccine for what it was, and quickly too. It would assume we have no one outside this 'cabal' of science who are capable of working a high power microscope or understand what they see in it?

I've been trying to follow ya on this Ebola thing and largely held my tongue to see what you had..but you seem to have vague notions of conspiracy on little but the hunch there must be one somewhere, because...well? I guess because there always has been or always will be or must be one? I'm not clear on where the 'must be a conspiracy' here starts..since, aside from very very fringe sources, you seem a bit short on solid info to supply the starting point of curiosity here?

I could be missing something big for that evidence to start from tho? Anything solid and verifiable outside the extreme fringe and shadows of shadows?

Let's take some info I have offered...  From the vid (with the lady in braids) We learn that ebola is very difficult to transmit, and that it was "weaponized."  So this scare is vastly overhyped.  Why?  We know of Agenda 21 - admitted to and in the open from the UN - that calls for a 90% reduction in population.  We see evidence that much of the footage is manufactured.  To create the illusion that there is a need for a vaccine?  That would be My guess.

I have noticed a sharp uptick in articles extolling the virtues of vaccines...  Mere coincidence?

From the same vid of the braided lady, We learn that no vaccine has a truly killed virus - a dead virus would not elicit any response, and once in the system, the "killed" virus, which is really merely dormant, "wakes up."  So in order to "vaccinate" against any disease (to prompt antibody creation) a live virus must be introduced.  Given that, a true pandemic can be created that kills most of Us.

And I had been saying that this ebola scare was to justify forced vaccinations...  And here is the NIH calling for "vaccinating everyOne."  Which, to be accomplished, has to include forcing People to be vaccinated.

So...  Conspiracy 'theory?"  Highest probabilities are on its being fact.

Maybe it is because I was introduced at such a young age to just how evil some People can be - at age 5ish, watching My friend sacrificed on a satanic altar - that I can wrap My mind around the horror deliberately created, and see clearly Their machinations.  Most People just cannot believe that such evil exists.  But I can assure You, it's even uglier than You can imagine.

And I assure You that 9/11 was NOT a "one-off."  Their plans are long-range and include much worse that 9/11.  Agenda 21 is all We need to see what ugliness They would perpetrate.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Wrabbit2000

Quote from: Amaterasu on October 14, 2014, 01:36:45 PM
Let's take some info I have offered...  From the vid (with the lady in braids) We learn that ebola is very difficult to transmit, and that it was "weaponized."  So this scare is vastly overhyped.  Why?  We know of Agenda 21 - admitted to and in the open from the UN - that calls for a 90% reduction in population. 

Okay, let's pause there. Assume for a moment that we both are educated people and we've both read a great deal of the published material That means reading outside the purely speculative, about Agenda 21, REX 84 and other similar initiatives over the years that are suggested as being something other than they are stated to be.

I believe someone else asked about this, but I'm downright insistent. Where precisely can I also read about a 90% target goal for population reduction through the efforts outlined in Agenda 21? Again, I have read the material through, and fail to see what you do. Help illuminate the scene for myself and others? I'd appreciate that specific claim being cleared up.

QuoteWe see evidence that much of the footage is manufactured.

You're tossing around accusations with names attached to the misconduct, and at a level that likely meets outright criminal action if pursued. Where is that evidence of manufactured footage? Who determined that evidence and by what method was that accomplished?

We're on a topic here that IS killing people. Thousands in Africa, and headlines this morning of the CDC seeing a need for an Ebola capable hospital in each of our 50 states. This has only apparently begun...so being accurate, not simply being right seems paramount and a possible matter of life and death.

That's why I'm trying to nail down a few of the claims to something more than opinion and fringe sources? This one warrants that due diligence, IMO.

QuoteI have noticed a sharp uptick in articles extolling the virtues of vaccines...  Mere coincidence?

Every biotech company with the capability on our planet is looking to develop a vaccine for this. American and Russian experts both, along with everyone else able to lead an effort, is doing just that. It's not altruistic, of course. The first SUCCESSFUL vaccine (it has to SAVE people..not kill them.) will make the company who develops it billions atop billions to a captive audience with little choice in the face of fear.  Is some of the fear manufactured? Of course it is....too much of it, really. Confusion makes the worst of it.

QuoteFrom the same vid of the braided lady, We learn that no vaccine has a truly killed virus

Err.... I learned Man has had ZERO success against any virus ever discovered...in basic biology. (That is something of a shock to realize and fully appreciate. Never.. ONCE..EVER..have we beat a virus.  We've only slowed them or robbed them of hosts through training our immune system by vaccination.)

We can beef up a human immune system to resist one. We can suppress symptoms which may otherwise BE the mechanism for killing a patient, while the underlying virus is defeated by immune response ...but vaccines don't kill anything. If you have the virus, a vaccine is far too late to help. They ONLY teach the body what to fight, if it sees it again. In a nutshell, that is ALL a vaccine is or does. Nothing more. Nothing less. What is nefarious about that, by its definition alone? What about vaccine development is evil, by its nature?

QuoteAnd I had been saying that this ebola scare was to justify forced vaccinations...

Yes... You've also suggested Ebola was the creation of man, in a time period which predates the technology required to have done it. I'm still looking for any explanation to cross that leap of logic, but haven't seen one yet.

How did 1970's technology produce something I doubt we could manage today? A bio-weaponized illness SO well adapted and in balance with nature, it hasn't undergone one major mutation in it's core structure or behavior since it was first seen and cataloged?

QuoteHighest probabilities are on its being fact.

"Fact" is a very large and loaded 4 letter word when it comes to science and medical science in particular. It takes a burden of proof considerably higher than non-scientific topics, when suggesting facts contradictory to the obvious and untested to prove their validity. Where is the support material to justify the levels of probability, much less carrying them to the level of factual statement?

QuoteMaybe it is because I was introduced at such a young age to just how evil some People can be - at age 5ish, watching My friend sacrificed on a satanic altar - that I can wrap My mind around the horror deliberately created, and see clearly Their machinations.  Most People just cannot believe that such evil exists.  But I can assure You, it's even uglier than You can imagine.

I'm truly sorry you had such a rough childhood. As some here know, I had a very serious experience with a cult earlier in my own life, and it lead to a couple deaths. One of which was a person very close to me at the time. I can understand completely how that colors perceptions across a great deal afterward. Trust, personal relations and even the ability to sleep deeper than an opening door would cause full alertness from.....becomes challenging. Been there..and I hope you're doing okay with all that to have it so prominent in your thoughts, so long after.

QuoteAnd I assure You that 9/11 was NOT a "one-off."  Their plans are long-range and include much worse that 9/11.  Agenda 21 is all We need to see what ugliness They would perpetrate.

9/11 is a whole different can of worms. Enough effort has been made to effortlessly cross and overlap Ebola with 9/11 with ISIS with Sandy Hook with Aurora with so much else it's a dizzying mess of paranoid illness to behold across the net right now. True, clinical levels of illness that, frankly, the more extreme NEED serious help with overcoming. No kidding there. Ebola is plenty to worry about...without adding to it with every OTHER conspiracy one can shoehorn into it and cram over top of it.

Sometimes....a virus really is just a virus and an outbreak really is just human stupidity fueled by arrogance, born of ignorance and wallowing in self congratulation for a job....not yet done, and damn sure not going well thus far. ....then again, I could be all wrong too. It's been known to happen.

Amaterasu

Well...  We will see, Wrabbit.  We will see.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."