The Hills of Apollo - An Enigma

[zorgon]

The Hills of Apollo - An Enigma

I am going to start this thread with a supposition:

SOMETHING is wrong with the Hills in the Apollo Surface shots

So lets have a look at a few things...

1) The sky is pure black... not a single bright star shows in any photo

2) The Hills are smooth and rounded, no jutting boulders, no sharp craigs, no deep cracks

3) Several images show the hills slightly blurry

4) The transition edge from hills to sky show no real sign of jaggedness... look rather like someone just simply cropped it

These are four points I want to address. There are others but I will add those as we go. I am sure other people have additional input like the video clips from TWO missions taken on the SAME hill


So first the lack of stars...

NASA says: You cannot see stars because of the brightness. The Astronauts say they didn't see any stars

Patrick Moore asks the alleged Apollo 11 crew could you actually see the stars



Yet astronauts going to the space station tell us the stars are spectacular...

Now since there is supposedly no atmosphere on the moon, the sun would appear the SAME as it does in space viewed from the shuttle or ISS

And here on Earth where we have a dense atmosphere, we can see planets like Venus even when the sun is still in the sky

In fact NASA APOD says THIS

If you could turn off the atmosphere's ability to scatter overwhelming sunlight, today's daytime sky might look something like this ... with the Sun surrounded by the stars of the constellations Taurus and Gemini. Of course, today is the Solstice. Traveling along the ecliptic plane, the Sun is at its northernmost position in planet Earth's sky, marking the astronomical beginning of summer in the north. Accurate for the exact time of today's Solstice, this composite image also shows the Sun at the proper scale (about the angular size of the Full Moon). Open star cluster M35 is to the Sun's left, and the other two bright stars in view are Mu and Eta Geminorum. Digitally superimposed on a nighttime image of the stars, the Sun itself is a composite of a picture taken through a solar filter and a series of images of the solar corona recorded during the solar eclipse of February 26, 1998 by Andreas Gada.




So if there was NO ATMOSPHERE on Earth the stars would appear in awesome splendor but on the Moon the sky is pitch black?

[zorgon]

Were they Faked?

I am going to use some stills from an IMAX version of the Moon Landing

The reason I want to start with that is because these images show why I think the Apollo Hills are FAKE and the sky had to be BLACK because any astronomer could point out if the stars looked wrong. Easier to convince people you couldn't see them

Incidentally that was Patrick Moore asking the Apollonauts  Famed British Astronomer

Image one:  Flat horizon (Imax film)  I have seen several photos in the Apollo set that show a flat horizon while others show a marked curved horizon.



This one shows the blurry smooth effect. (This is also Hollywood Imax)



Now then... let us assume for a minute that these Apollo images were created in a studio...

Well Building 9 at Langley is still there. It was used for "Apollo Training" and was used again to make the IMAX moon landing



So what did they do?  Well if they had a small set with rocks  and added a green screen...



They could then fill in the Hills and black sky later...

Then you hook the Astronot up to a crane like this...



and you get THIS (actuall Apollo fottage clips) Pay attention to the Hills..

[zorgon]

The Sky was the color of Black Patent Shoes...

Now lets look at the sky...

In Building 9 they would turn down the lights, to make the sky black  like this...



I darkened this one... and deliberately left some artifacts

Now look at a real Apollo photo. In this one the horizon has a very marked curve...



In the sky we see THIS... is it a spacecraft or a studio fixture that got left in the airbrushing?



Original here  http://keithlaney.net/ApolloOrbitalimages/AS14/AS14-66-9295.jpg

[zorgon]

Lunar Orbiter vs Apollo

Lunar orbiter missions were intended to look over the moon and find safe landing sites.

A lot of the Lunar Orbiter images show SHATP jagged peaks and craigs, boulders strewn about and generally rough and rugged terrain... yet in Apollo its all smoothed out.

A task would be to try to match Apollo images to the same area on LO images for comparison

THIS is a Lunar Orbiter image of Copernicus crater... notice the horizon...

[zorgon]

Okay I will now open the thread for input and add to it over the next few days...

If anyone can find those videos showing the same hilss in two missions I would appreciate it

[zorgon]

Apollo Hills

[zorgon]

[astr0144]

Nice thread "Z"...

Is this to suggest that you believe from the evidence that you appear to have obtained that you are now on the belief that the Apollo was all faked..

The more I look at this stuff, the more I feel that  it seems that way..

Or do you still see two possibilities that are hard to decide upon...

[LSWONE]

Apollo Hills

In the bottom pic you can make out a line from left to right just past the buggy. Looks like a backdrop cloth or painting.
LSWONE.

[LSWONE]

I can see the same line in this pic too!

LSWONE.

[Pimander]

Is this to suggest that you believe from the evidence that you appear to have obtained that you are now on the belief that the Apollo was all faked..

Some of the astronauts sound like they are lying.  You CAN DEFINITELY see the stars VERY clearly from space when you orbit Earth.  If there is very little atmosphere on the Moon then you should be able to see them near the Moon too.

So what the fook is going on in the video?  Why tell an astronomer that you couldn't see them?  If you had seen the stars in space you would not forget or get confused (like in the video).  Think about it.  They are either lying about what they saw or they did not go.  What are the alternative explanations?

The more I look at this stuff, the more I feel that  it seems that way..

Something is wrong regarding Apollo in my opinion.  I don't know what.  Perhaps they faked the footage even though they really went to feed the public hunger for a victory in the space race,  I'm damned if I know but something is not right.

ETA: I just corrected that monstrosity of a last paragraph to make it a bit more readable LOL.

[Amaterasu]

I agree, LSWONE.  I think most if not all was faked.

[ArMaP]

Although the stars do not appear on the photos (as expected, as the photos are of areas in the sunlight) they should have been visible to the astronauts.

[zorgon]

Is this to suggest that you believe from the evidence that you appear to have obtained that you are now on the belief that the Apollo was all faked..

Ever since I started all this (originally I was an Apollo Groupie, wanted to be an Astronaut LOL) I have been finding evidence that supports both options...  Many of the photos are indeed faked. Some were taken for Life Magazine BEFORE the launch in case the real photos were not so great. That explains those with lighting issues

Many photos were enhance like the famous Earth Rise where NASA made the moon greyscale while over enhancing the blue Earth

The warped plates on the Lunar Module make it look like a cardboard mockup... No WAY that thing was in space, but I can never get an answer from the skeptics on that one (there is a thread here on that)
The star issue is a big and important one... as even NASA has two sides on that argument

Currently my belief is that yes, the secret space program from both the USA and Russia have been and are on the moon... I have LOTS of evidence on that including the Disney coverup and the Project Horizon documents. The fact that mining is ongoing is supported by literally THOUSANDS of documents on that where only the abstracts are available to the public

I have reports from 2 people on Kwajalien Atoll at the time. One says an Aquilla heavy lifter was sent to the moon THREE MONTHS before Apollo 11 and the other says that during every launch from the Atoll there was a bright light watching what they were doing..  that second person is a key player in the recent McMoon LO tapes snafu

In my opinion the Apollo mission was smoke and mirrors for the public and to cover up the real (and secret) military space program

Since we started talking about that, PBS NOVA has proved what I say is true and named some of these Secret Astronauts and interviewed them at the Pentagon One name pops up He was the FIRST secret Astronaut... then went on to become NAVY and did a tour as Director of NASA, finally becoming the FIRST commander of the Naval Space Command

Vice Admiral Richard H Truly

So all these years I have been collecting material to show this, but still no actual proof

I did get an email a few months back...

Webmaster,



I am a military member of the Air Force Space Command community at Vandenberg AFB, CA.  I found your webpage interesting, but grossly out of date.  Onizuka AFS shut down more than 7 years ago and the 21SOPS has been here at Vandenberg about that long.  I can provide unclassified updates of units located here if needed.  Let me know.

But we were too busy with petty drama to follow up on this. I hope its not too late


BTW 21SOPS is 21st Space Operations Squadron

Tell me I am crazy  LOL

[Pimander]

Since Zorgon did his original Space Command material the US have upgraded their space lift capability (this is all public domain).

I also saw material a couple of years back about a modified upgraded Space Shuttle that did not require a Massive non-reusable launch vehicle to go into orbit.  It was allegedly tested at none other than Area 51!   It was a fair bit of material.  Well none of it is on the web now.  I lost my external hard drive and I cannot find a single bit of the material now.  None whatsoever.