180km wide lake discovered on the far side of the moon

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

Thanks a bunch! I'll take a look. Hopefully we can come to a consenses.

Or not. Lol 

Rock 

[Pimander]

shill will always reject the evidence NO MATTER of its quality. no evidence is "good evidence" for a shill, but you can tell they become silent as the evidence becomes irrefutable.

Stick to the evidence instead of bleating on about shills please. 

[vril-ya]

i would like to get the thread to the original course, Tsiolkovsky being a lake as it has long been suspected. here is that color shot of the Tsiolkovsky lake from Terzinski's lecture. 



and here is another one from the same lecture, taken from another altitude



and finally Tsiolkovsky as seen in AS08-12-2196 (colorized version from holyconservance)







Here is an excerpt from Geogre Adamski's book Inside The Space Ships:

Ramu said, "You are now looking at the familiar side of your Moon, but we are not landing on it. The image is being reflected on the screen from one of the telescopes which was not in operation the first time you were with us. Look closely as we approach the surface and you will note considerable activity. In the numerous large craters which you see from Earth you will notice very large hangars — which you do not see! Notice, too, that the terrain here is very similar to your deserts.

"We have built these hangars on such a scale in order that much larger ships than this one can enter easily. Also within these hangars are living quarters for a number of workers and their families, provided with every comfort. Water in abundance is piped in from the mountains, just as you have done on your Earth for the purpose of bringing fertility to your desert areas.

"When a ship enters these hangars, a process of depressurizing the passengers takes place. This requires about twenty-four hours. Were this not done, the people would experience the greatest discomfort in stepping out on the Moon. Such a depressurization process is not yet conceivable to Earthlings. They understand too little about the bodily functions and their control. Actually, Human lungs are able to adjust themselves to very low as well as high pressure, if deflation or inflation is not done too quickly. If hurried, death would result."

I would gladly have undergone the necessary deflation for the privilege of actually landing on the Moon. There was nothing demanding my immediate return to Earth.

But with a sympathetic smile, Ramu said, "We have many things in store for you besides showing you the other side of your satellite before we return you to Earth. Watch closely now, for we are approaching the Moon's rim. Notice those clouds forming. They are light and appear to be coming from nowhere, as clouds often do. Most of them gain no density whatsoever but dissipate almost immediately. Yet, under favorable conditions, some occasionally do gain density. It is the shadows of these which have been seen through telescopes from Earth.

"Now we are approaching the side never seen from Earth. Look at the surface directly below us. See, there are mountains in this section. You can even see snow on the peaks of the higher ones, and a growth of heavy timber on the lower slopes. On this side of the Moon are a number of mountain lakes and rivers. You can see one of the lakes below. The rivers empty into a very large body of water.

"Now you can see a number of communities of varying sizes, both in the valleys and on the mountain slopes. Preferences of people here, as anywhere else, vary in regard to living at one or another altitude. And here, as elsewhere, the natural activities to support life are very similar to those wherever mankind is found.

"Had we time to land and be depressurized," Ramu went on, "and then travel about, you would personally meet some of the people. But as far as studying the surface of the Moon is concerned, the way you are viewing it now is far more practical."

I realized the truth of this as a fair-sized city assembled on the screen in front of us. Actually, we seemed to be drifting over the rooftops, and I could see people walking along clean, narrow streets. There was a more thickly built-up central section which I assumed to be the business district, although it was not crowded with people. I noticed no cars of any kind parked along the streets, although I did see several vehicles, moving just above the streets, since they appeared to have no wheels. In size they were comparable to our buses, varying from one another in about the same degree.

Ramu explained, "A few of the people here do have their own conveyances, but for the most part they depend on the public utilities at which you are looking."

Just outside the city proper was a comparatively large cleared section with an immense building along one side. It looked like a hangar and Ramu confirmed this by saying, "We have to construct a few hangars near the cities for convenience in landing with the supplies we bring to the population here — everything not available locally for their needs. In exchange, they furnish us with certain minerals found on the Moon."

i believe adamski as there are many details in his case he really coudn't have known unless he experienced it and his description of the far side of the moon is yet another confirmation that far side of the moon indeed has lakes and rivers, lush vegetation and a thriving civilization all over it.

[zorgon]

maybe if you stop bleating about not being one if we are to get to the truth,

The problem with the 'truth' is neither side has it on their side. Believers will not accept any criticism of what they think they see. While Skeptics will not see what you see.

Here we try to look at it differently. Present the evidence... then everyone can choose what to believe or not. Calling people out generally degenerates into a bash fest.

ArMaP is a skeptic... we all know that... but to call people shills because they cannot see it your way does your credibility no good.

Over 35 years ago I heard a debate between an 'expert' ladt archaeologist and Eric von Danekin. This was the DAY ONE of Ancient Aliens beliefs

Eric kept his cool throughout while the 'expert' had no explanation and resorted to name calling and attack his credentials.

Eric maintained throughout that he is merely presenting what HE thinks  and asking the viewer to come to their own conclusion based on the evidence and not the person presenting it

At the end... Eric was declared the winner of that debate, not because the host believed him, but because he kept his cool and stuck to the facts

ArMaP is here because we have found a few things that are 'unexplainable' from his perspective.

The rest of us are a little jaded by all the fakery out there and the stuff that truly is simply pareidolia

Now Kieth Laney has the honor of being the Grand Father of Anomaly hunters and has some of the best material on the net, but he also has some that make you laugh, like his RAT on Mars



As long as we keep mixing the real stuff with the obvious misinterpreted stuff and the deliberately create stuff... we will never get anywhere.

One of ArMaPs favorites is this one ; the one on the right merely color shifted for contrast



Seems NASA forgot to brush out that one as it can be found easily without enhancing anything in the original here

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/AS11-41-6156HR.jpg

In fact if you look at the whole area you see a pattern of straight lines that look exactly like the buried ruins in Iraq near Ur

[vril-ya]

The problem with the 'truth' is neither side has it on their side. Believers will not accept any criticism of what they think they see. While Skeptics will not see what you see.

Here we try to look at it differently. Present the evidence... then everyone can choose what to believe or not. Calling people out generally degenerates into a bash fest.

i agree namecalling leads nowhere, i just get bit suspicious when someone is overly skeptical, but then again many people are, that's how it is, at least for now.

Now Kieth Laney has the honor of being the Grand Father of Anomaly hunters and has some of the best material on the net, but he also has some that make you laugh, like his RAT on Mars

i wouldn't be so quick to reject the "rat" on mars. from my research, not only does mars have a flora and fauna but a thriving surface civilization of humans like us.

One of ArMaPs favorites is this one ; the one on the right merely color shifted for contrast...In fact if you look at the whole area you see a pattern of straight lines that look exactly like the buried ruins in Iraq near Ur

that's an interesting find, they may be ruins upthere, but i believe most of these structures are active.

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further more regarding the mars, there is a book called UFO contact from planet Acart by brazilian peasant Arthur Berlet. he talks how he was taken to this planet Acart for 8 days back in 1958. (book was first published in 1965) that is sad to be 62 million miles from Earth at the time (Mars orbit) and has 2 ARTIFICIAL satellites. he describes one of the satellites from upclose as being sqaure-oval shape. NOTE, neither of the Mars moons was not photographed untill 1971! Acart is said to be populated with 20,000,000,000 tall blonde humans. book is written in a simple mans tongue but contains big number of details this poor peasant really couldn't have known back in '58, other than shape of Mars's moon, he describes 2 kinds of propulsion, one used in atmosphere (up to 10,000 km) and another for interplanetary travel utilizing the magnetic field lines. he mentions a need to siginfically slowing down when entering planets boundary   envelope and reversing the magnetic fields, layers of different color halos around the earth. he describes their cities and homes in detail, goverment structure, huge seaside resort, mountain cities, factory that produces all equipment including their saucers and much much more. you can read it and decide for yourself if it is a true case.

https://worldtracker.org/media/library/Metaphysics%20&%20Spirituality/Wendelle%20Stevens%20UFO%20CONTACT%20FROM%20PLANET%20ACART.pdf

[vril-ya]

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