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Started by A51Watcher, September 16, 2014, 11:19:20 PM

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A51Watcher

Another home run from the team! -

(This footage was taken circa 1990, facing S4 from 'the range' on a tripod.)








Congratulations on the fine work... WOW!!  8)





Amaterasu

Very nice!  Wish We could have the whole of the trails stay.  Maybe a picture is drawn, or a message is there.  Who knows?  Could be.
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A51Watcher

Quote from: Amaterasu on September 16, 2014, 11:59:37 PM
Very nice!  Wish We could have the whole of the trails stay.  Maybe a picture is drawn, or a message is there.  Who knows?  Could be.

Or maybe it's a newbie pilot in a panic to keep this atomic bull ride from crashing into the ground.


zorgon

Quote from: A51Watcher on September 08, 2016, 06:49:10 AM
Or maybe it's a newbie pilot in a panic to keep this atomic bull ride from crashing into the ground.

Or maybe its the Alien version of those gang cars you see bouncing around on the street :P

rdunk

#4
Very interesting!! Something that each of you may have noticed too - I don't know what it is, but it is "different". Is it the flying craft?? It appears at the far fight of the screen, just above center, @ about 1:04 into the video, for just a second or 2. I was able to stop it and screenshot it, both as presented and magnified. I will post the two screenshots for you to see it too!

Added: - it also appears at 1:38 in same area - see the 3rd pic below!

What do you think?? .............It really does not look like a "balloon"!!  ;D

Click on pics for larger!





Also @ 1:38 into the video, same area:


A51Watcher

Quote from: rdunk on September 08, 2016, 08:59:50 PM
Very interesting!! Something that each of you may have noticed too - I don't know what it is, but it is "different". Is it the flying craft?? It appears at the far fight of the screen, just above center, @ about 1:04 into the video, for just a second or 2. I was able to stop it and screenshot it, both as presented and magnified. I will post the two screenshots for you to see it too!

Added: - it also appears at 1:38 in same area - see the 3rd pic below!

What do you think?? .............It really does not look like a "balloon"!!  ;D

Click on pics for larger!





Also @ 1:38 into the video, same area:



If you watch the section of the video without the tracer filter, you will see it is the craft momentarily coming in from the right, then doing an about face and going out of frame again to the right.

The camera was mounted on a tripod and left unattended.


robomont

an old sport model.
is your infrared range finder on.if so turn it off or tape it.they see the laser probably.use manual focus if possible.
ive never been much for rules.
being me has its priviledges.

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rdunk

Quote from: rdunk on September 08, 2016, 08:59:50 PM






Also @ 1:38 into the video, same area:



Robo says, "an old sport model"..............an old sport model WHAT? What is this thing we see in the video, and noted in these screenshots?? Is it a spacecraft? If it is a spacecraft, is it an alien craft or homemade? Has a "craft" similar to this design been seen otherwise/elsewhere? Is the white area to the rear of it a heat hot spot from whatever type of thruster it has?

A51Watcher

Quote from: rdunk on September 09, 2016, 04:56:39 PM

What is this thing we see in the video, and noted in these screenshots?? Is it a spacecraft? If it is a spacecraft, is it an alien craft or homemade? Has a "craft" similar to this design been seen otherwise/elsewhere? Is the white area to the rear of it a heat hot spot from whatever type of thruster it has?

Rdunk I think in this image you are confusing the trail of the craft as being the craft itself. This is not an outline of the craft, only the trail of the path it performed.

Watch the video after the tracing section, you will see the same video without the tracing and see where your confusion is.

As to Robo's comments I will leave it to him to explain what he means and what his evidence for it is.

 

rdunk

Quote from: A51Watcher on September 09, 2016, 09:00:58 PM
Rdunk I think in this image you are confusing the trail of the craft as being the craft itself. This is not an outline of the craft, only the trail of the path it performed.

Watch the video after the tracing section, you will see the same video without the tracing and see where your confusion is


Could be........but to me it looks different than does the typical "trail" in the vid.

A51Watcher

#10
Rdunk - If you were to download the OP video and examine it frame by frame, you will see several other anomalies of note.

Take for instance segments that appear to be blurring due to speed of the object or epilepsy by the photographer.

A blur that appears like a long stretched piece of taffy.

But what about when the taffy snaps in 2, leaving two separate objects before it snaps backs together?

What are we to make of that?





Bear in mind that each frame represents a 1/30th of a second slice of time.

Yet frozen in that slice of time we see two instances of the same object appearing in that moment of time.


ArMaP

Quote from: A51Watcher on September 12, 2016, 05:20:51 AM
But what about when the taffy snaps in 2, leaving two separate objects before it snaps backs together?

What are we to make of that?
Depending on how the video was made and converted, that could be a result of the technology used by the camera and/or conversion process.

Pimander

Quote from: ArMaP on September 12, 2016, 02:08:10 PM
Depending on how the video was made and converted, that could be a result of the technology used by the camera and/or conversion process.
Is there a way to eliminate that possibility?  Convert it using more than one kind of software perhaps to check whether we can still see the observed phenomenon?

A51Watcher

#13
Quote from: Pimander on September 12, 2016, 02:46:26 PM
Is there a way to eliminate that possibility?  Convert it using more than one kind of software perhaps to check whether we can still see the observed phenomenon?

Easier than that. Viewing the original tape shows the observed phenomenon as well.

QuoteDepending on how the video was made and converted, that could be a result of the technology used by the camera and/or....

Got any examples of a result of the technology used by the camera? Conversion process has been eliminated.



ArMaP

Quote from: Pimander on September 12, 2016, 02:46:26 PM
Is there a way to eliminate that possibility?
I don't think there is, this type of conversion is "one way", and for us to be able to see it on the site it means that it was at least converted once, from the original tape or film to digital, but I doubt the first conversion was to a format that YouTube accepted without any conversion.

QuoteConvert it using more than one kind of software perhaps to check whether we can still see the observed phenomenon?
I don't see how that could help. ???