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Winter Is Coming: World Facing Mini-Ice Age Starting Early Next Year

Started by this_is_who_we_are, September 19, 2014, 05:42:38 PM

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The Seeker

sarge, throw out the hollyweed tripe about failure to act; mankind cannot do anything about it other than accept that it has happened in the past, and history repeats itself in a cyclic manner that mother nature calls the shots on...

and as Z has stated repeatedly, the records show we are over due...
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this_is_who_we_are

"All this has happened before. All of it will happen again."
- Pythia
"The uninitiated perceive time with no appreciation of the beginning. And no understanding of the end. To them time is an infinite commodity. We know better and we will not waste a second of it. This is who we are."

zorgon

Quote from: this_is_who_we_are on September 21, 2014, 05:04:45 AM
"All this has happened before. All of it will happen again."
- Pythia

In modern terms we call that a

NATURAL CYCLE

::)

sky otter




I haven't decided if this is too little too late or what..humans.! !






Thousands march in NYC, around globe over climate


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People fill 58th Street between 8th and 9th Avenue in New York before a climate change protest march Sunday, Sept. 21, 2014.

AP  1 hr ago | By VERENA DOBNIK and MICHAEL SISAK   of Associated Press

NEW YORK (AP) — Accompanied by drumbeats, wearing costumes and carrying signs, thousands of demonstrators filled the streets of Manhattan and other cities around the world on Sunday to urge policy makers to take action on climate change.


The crowds of marchers, which included actors Mark Ruffalo and Evangeline Lilly, wound through midtown Manhattan, joined along the way by United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki Moon, former Vice President Al Gore and New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio.

The march was one of a series of events large and small held around the world —?? organizers said 40,000 marchers took part in an event in London, while a small gathering in Cairo featured 50-foot art piece representing wind and solar energy —?? two days before the United Nations Climate Summit. More than 120 world leaders will convene Tuesday for the meeting aimed at galvanizing political will for a new global climatetreaty by the end of 2015.

The New York march drew people from all over the country. A contingent from Moore, Oklahoma —?? where a massive tornado killed 24 last year — took part, as did hundreds of New Yorkers affected by Superstorm Sandy, which the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and the British meteorological office said was made more likely by climate change.

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People gather near Columbus Circle before the People's Climate March in New York Sunday, Sept. 21, 2014.

Myrtle E. Williams, a nurse at a nursing home in the Rockaways, said Sandy was a "real eye opener." The storm nearly two years ago "made people wake up and say this is real devastating," she says.

Williams said Sandy brought home the devastation people usually see on television from far away, like the Asian tsunamis and the hurricanes that hit southern states.

"I think people are becoming more aware when it happens to them," she said. "When it comes to your door, you can equate with other people who are going through something just as devastating."

Now the question she asks: "Can we make a change so that this will never happen again?"

In London, celebrities including actress Emma Thompson and musician Peter Gabriel joined tens of thousands of people in the march through the capital's center.

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British actress Emma Thompson, centre and John Sauven from Greenpeace join an estimated 40,000 thousand people marching from the Embankment via Whitehall to the Houses of Parliament in London, Sunday, Sept. 21, 2014 as part of the People's Climate March, a worldwide mobilisation calling on world leaders to commit to urgent action on climate change and 100% clean energy.

Campaigners marched through the streets chanting "What do we want? Clean energy. When do we want it? Now."

Speaking at the start of the march, Thompson said: "This is important for every single person on the planet, which is why it has to be the greatest grass roots movement of all time.

"This is the battle of our lives. We're fighting for our children," she said.

In Australia, thousands of people marched in cities across the country on Sunday as part of a global day of action on climate change. The largest rally was in Melbourne, where an estimated 10,000 people took to the streets with banners and placards calling on the Australian government to do more to combat global warming.

Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott was a particular target of the protesters. Abbott's center-right coalition has removed a carbon tax and has restricted funding for climate change bodies since coming to power last year.

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Associated Press writer Sylvia Hui in London contributed to this report


http://news.msn.com/us/thousands-march-in-nyc-around-globe-over-climate


The Seeker

Sky, I really wonder if anything we hu-mons can or cannot do would make any difference to mother nature; the activists holler about pollution, but Mt. Pinatubo blew several years back and pumped more into the atmosphere in 3 days than hu-mons did in several thousand years...

they going to put a catalytic converter on a volcano?

it is what it is; perhaps they will draw some positive attention towards some change...

but will it make a difference?

seeker
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sky otter

Seeker
I agree with  you guys on  it isn't us and we aren't going to change it now..even if we could..
like Rock said..watch nature for what is happening..the birds and bees  and the bugs know

little note here..
we have had bees for a longggg time maybe 30 or so years.. lost them for a time but in may of 2013 captured a swarm ..very nice docile productive bees...within 4 months  they had brood and a super filled.. hubby added room
well this year we got about 25 pounds of honey and hubby added some more room
when he removed the one super to take the honey the bees were nasty....not like before
he had opened the hive previously with no protection and  didn't get stung
this time they were all over him
it was a very productive hive but something had changed
now
here's the WTF moment
a huge swarm of bees left the hive last week on a warm day..it looked like the entire hive the swarm was huge
they flew about 150 feet to a big limb and are still there..thur 40 degree cool nights and rain..
as they swarmed we watched and hubby started toward them as they were in the air.. they went after him and I can tell you for an old fart ..can he run...

we have never ever had this happen...I looked it up it is called abscond
http://www.honeybeesuite.com/why-do-honey-bees-abscond-in-the-fall/

he has talked to a few other bee keepers since and three others have had it happen or witnesses it happening....different size groups of bees in each case....none of these guys had ever heard of it either

now read the link and it says
Absconding is another of those honey bee behaviors that isn't completely understood, but we can draw some conclusions based on repeated observations. Usually at least one of the following conditions exists in a hive before a colony absconds in the fall:
•There is a severe nectar dearth resulting in a shortage of stored food
•The hive has been heavily invaded by predators such as ants, yellow jackets, wax moths, or small hive beetles
•There has been excessive disturbance from interlopers such as skunks or beekeepers
•The hive is extremely hot due to the weather or severe overcrowding

In general, the environmental conditions in the hive became too stressful for the bees. Somehow they sensed they had little chance of surviving in the present circumstances and decided to leave.


none of the above fits unless you take into account that a month or so ago we got the honey..
I don't know about the other beekeeper guys

so just what are the bees telling us when so many just go out and commit a mass suicide?  ?  ?
they weren't overcrowded and the weather hasn't been extreme and no  critters have bothered where they are

this is scary... I'm going to go put some more food up..still have some canning to do




edit to make the orange easier to read

The Matrix Traveller

The affects of the seasons are more localised than most realise. Even a few 100 Km/miles even makes
a difference, in Oceanic located Countries like NZ.

Droughts are very localised and occur in different areas of NZ from year to year.

Perhaps such changes are more wide spread in Continental countries ?

Where I live now in NZ, has been warmer this last winter.

We're now into 'Spring' and never had to use heating this year, while other areas in NZ have been colder.   :)

The Matrix Traveller

A few years back, we had huge losses in bees (Due to an imported disease) and was a huge concern to our Agriculture export markets.

Now we are seeing a rapid recovery in bee populations around the country ....

The Seeker

Sky, could have been from robbing the honey; you didn't take all of it, did you? sounds like they decided they aren't going to make it...

winter is preying on my mind this year, squirrel nests are very high, wasps are low to the ground, wooly worms look like werewolves...
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sky otter



with you on the thinking of winter, seeker

nut trees are so heavy  the limbs are very low
as far as taking to much honey they had a broad and a super and a half  besides what we removed and hubby put the supper with the comb back so they should have been good

what doesn't make any sense is that they left a place with supplies to a tree branch with nothing almost next door....if they would have kept on going  I might have felt better
if for no better reason than I could think they found a good tree to live in...this way at about 25+ feet in the air , clustered on top of each other..probably trying like hell to make comb
we can only count the dead as they drop

sad and disturbing
:(

zorgon

Quote from: the seeker on September 21, 2014, 09:37:09 PM
Sky, I really wonder if anything we hu-mons can or cannot do would make any difference to mother nature; the activists holler about pollution, but Mt. Pinatubo blew several years back and pumped more into the atmosphere in 3 days than hu-mons did in several thousand years..

The problem is Activists rarely have the real facts to deal with. So they protest the WRONG things for the WRONG reasons... and thus get ZERO results

Stop poluution? Great idea... the less crap in our environment the better for our health, but global climate changes? Not so easy

First you have to know who to blame  and in this case Ma Nature is the main culprit. Yet slimy politicians use any old cause to confuddle the voters... like THIS photo of a Polar Bear on ice that was used to push the agenda that global warming is melting the ice caps so the poor bears will die.

Never mind the truth that the bears can easily swim a hundred miles with no effort



Quotethey going to put a catalytic converter on a volcano?

Can we patent that idea?

::)

Quotebut will it make a difference?

Geo engineering is an HONEST attempt by scientists to try to change the climate. NASA's idea to use asteroid dust would work but is a stupid idea because it would be impossible to remove it when the cycle reverses (as it will) and we would become a permanent Ice World

THIS idea however is both simple and WOULD work. Just position it at the right distance from earth ( like holding a dime over the moon)  and voila  you can block as much or as little sun as you want



If you want more close the umbrella. If it fails you can blast it with a missile

zorgon

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on September 21, 2014, 09:56:17 PM
The affects of the seasons are more localised than most realise. Even a few 100 Km/miles even makes
a difference, in Oceanic located Countries like NZ.

The main driving force of weather are the jet streams. Watch the maps on TV of the jet stream fluctuations. When the trough of a wave dips to the equator everything in that trough will get unusual cold spells while the crest of the trough will have record highs. 

Mostly the jet streams are stable but last few years they have been 'wavy'



You can see in the above image where the abnormal warm spells and cold spells will sit. As long as the stream is in that position it will stay the same. The one below is the more "normal" stream for the US and the reason the southwest is hot and dry and the north east cold and wet



QuoteDroughts are very localised and occur in different areas of NZ from year to year.

We had heavy drizzle yesterday... half my yard is soaking wet... the other half is bone dry. Seems my house was exactly on the cold from line (happens a lot where we sit in the middle of the valley) Makes for interesting clouds that swirl, form from nothing or dissipate in seconds


QuoteWhere I live now in NZ, has been warmer this last winter.

Because your jet stream is in a trough (opposite from ours as your on the bottom  :P



You can watch it here
http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/marine/weather?LEVEL=3&MENU=0&MODELLTYP=jeps&MN=gfs&KUST=c0351

The Seeker

I understand that the scientific community is making an effort to find some sort of solution; but Ma Nature is fickle and me thinks cares not about the pests[us] crawling around on her skin...

from my perspective, hu-mons need to wake up and learn to think again; forget about all the toys and focus on living, or rather they are going to if Ma Nature throws us another major curve ball... and she will...
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zorgon

Quote from: sky otter on September 21, 2014, 09:50:21 PMr
when he removed the one super to take the honey the bees were nasty....not like before

Killer bees have been infiltrating regular bee colonies. They are agressive

Quoteso just what are the bees telling us when so many just go out and commit a mass suicide?  ?  ?

Is it suicide? or do they go elsewhere to make a new hive?

sky otter

I think the climate will take care of overpopulation before wars do..imo


and as I age I wonder why I even want to stay....sigh
guess if I had a better handle on the options it would be easy... ;)

sorry Z..did see your question but they did not leave to make a new hive..they are in the tree just hangin..
and we have thought of the killer bee thing but I can't find where they are  as high as this lat..but I'm still looking


http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/nonnative-bee-invasion-in-us-l/16239881

Africanized bees are unable to survive in cold climates. Once the temperature begins to change, they migrate south or die off.

Researchers are now questioning whether humid air causes bees to be more defensive. Dr. Eric Mussen, extension apiculturist in the entomology department at the University of California-Davis, said that this question has not yet been answered.

this is already know..humid muggy weather in the spring is when they normally swarm

btw..when these flew.. it was a dry sunny day..very nice