Will ET Be Here Soon? NASA Brings Scientists, Theologians Together To Prepare

[burntheships]

  Like humans have ever been at peace to put the idea to the test.

True, though to add a little pickle juice; a story goes that there was a
man and a woman living in peace and harmony with the earth where there
was no death, and food was readily abundant without toil.

Some say along came an alien and put a monkey wrench into it all.

[Wrabbit2000]

The military industrial complex are so fixated on squeezing every penny it can (including faking Moon landing footage) out of the US tax payer, I think it would be more likely that the Chines will do it first at a tenth the cost.

I really wish I didn't agree with you on this, as it's a bad place to find one's self right now as an American. However, I've come to feel hopeful for the other nations pursuing serious space programs. In the end, I really don't think of people as "American" or "Chinese" once they leave Earth orbit anyway. They all become Terran and that about settles all that nonsense in deep space, IMO.

After all, if we do encounter another species and especially if it's in open space? No one on their side will give a hoot about nations or districts or any of it. They'll simply want to know 'What planet did you come from and how long have you been out here?'. I honestly wonder if an alien species may just see our need to find division as our single greatest failing for advancing much further than we  have.

[Amaterasu]

That is second prize for assumption of the week.

First prize to the idea that aa advanced species at peace stagnates.  Like humans have ever been at peace to put the idea to the test.

I suggest that the idea that a peaceful society stagnates is useless eliter propaganda.  A species as creative, inquisitive, and so focused on problem-solving as We are is not likely to stagnate.  By convincing Us that We must war to advance, They get Our passive acceptance of Their money-making schemes.  And in some, the idea that fighting is somehow honorable even as an aggressor.

They do not want creativity from Us; They want conformity.  They do not want inquisitiveness; They want Us distracted.  They do not want problems for Us solved; They create Our problems.

And They are the psychopathic useless eliters.

Just...sayin'.

[zorgon]

I'm an evil Cheeseburger.  What do I taste like? 

Limburger Cheese

[The Matrix Traveller]

After all, if we do encounter another species and especially if it's in open space? No one on their side will give a hoot about nations or districts or any of it. They'll simply want to know 'What planet did you come from and how long have you been out here?'. I honestly wonder if an alien species may just see our need to find division as our single greatest failing for advancing much further than we  have.

BINGO !

No truer words spoken .... 

But they will probably know, before they ask us.   

[zorgon]

Obviously, we cannot yet get to them, and where they live! If they can get to us from where they live, then they are very likely to be "advanced" beyond us IMO.

Well "advanced" is a relative term   

They do not need to be thousnads of years in advance of us  In fact they could be 100 years behind us. The only difference is a SINGLE discovery seperating us    A Space Drive

Now Ben Rich and others have already told us we have them but they are locked up in black ops. The whole premise of our research here is saying we have them

We already have all the concepts in our Sci Fi films

So they would not need to be very advance at all

Maybe they just read Matrix's thread and said "Hey!!! That's the ticket!"

[zorgon]

Like humans have ever been at peace to put the idea to the test.

They have  many times in History.

Each time the Collapse and Fall is soon behind.  Apathy sets in... No reason to strive for more. Look at the Roman colloseums...  the orgies... the more free time a society has the mor depraved they become...

Today it is our turn. We are on the cusp of the Collapse of the American Empire.  Europe will soon fall to the Muslim hoards

Good thing I am at the end of this current cycle... its gonna get ugly

[zorgon]

They do not want creativity from Us; They want conformity.  They do not want inquisitiveness; They want Us distracted.  They do not want problems for Us solved; They create Our problems.

During the Communist regime in Russia the average person had no need of anything. They had free housing, free medical, free food and free Vodka.

Several interviews are to be found on the net with Russian workers, They say they did not bother to work harder or strive to make something better... because there was no incentive to do so.  If you worked harder you could not advance under that system, so why bother? Do your job, get your Vodka be happy. If you strived to achieve greatness you were likely a free thinker and most likely a trouble maker 

So what happened to the communist system? It collapsed because there was no incentive to improve ones situation

Even in China they have adopted "Communist Capitalism" (my term) The deal here is that the people are allowed to go make all the money they want SO LONG AS they stay out of politics

Its working because most Chinese don't give a hoot about politics anyway

Result is Chinese will likely soon be on top of the world powers and they haven't attacked anyone recently 

And They are the psychopathic useless eliters.

That line is getting old

Just sayin

[onetruekeeper]

When and if the E.T.'s show up I would ask them ( politely ) if they would take off their disguises and show us their true form or nature. The idea of this big universe filled with diverse forms of life and civilizations is getting a bit old.
I would ask them to tell us what is really "out there " .
Are all the galaxies, stars and other astronomical bodies that we observe nothing more than stage props?
Is pure CONSCIOUSNESS the only true definition of life?

[The Matrix Traveller]

Is pure CONSCIOUSNESS the only true definition of life?

YES   

[Pimander]

They have  many times in History.

I think you will find that the Romans were perpetually at war or on a conquest.

Each time the Collapse and Fall is soon behind.  Apathy sets in... No reason to strive for more. Look at the Roman colloseums...  the orgies... the more free time a society has the mor depraved they become...

USA are always at war and they they have more brothels and football stadia than the Romans could dream of.  HAve you seen the volume of porn coming out of LA?  {You know the internet is not just for that Z }  And anyway, the USA is a Roman creation.  Think about it mate.

Can you honestly say that there is no continuation of the Roman principle that war is good for the empire in US foreign policy? 

Good thing I am at the end of this current cycle... its gonna get ugly

I hope not but would not be surprised if you were right about that.

[Pimander]

Several interviews are to be found on the net with Russian workers, They say they did not bother to work harder or strive to make something better... because there was no incentive to do so.  If you worked harder you could not advance under that system, so why bother?

The thing is that it is still possible to distribute wealth fairer and give everyone a job but still have progression.  If you take the best of  both systems then you are talking a sensible government.  Small free enterprise and the state making sure everyone does not go without.  I know they managed it in Sweden for a long time.  Massive global corporations are the hurdle along with the insane banking system.

[VillageIdiot]

Limburger Cheese

Hey, don't knock Limburger. It's great on buttered toast with a whisk(e)y highball.

[Somamech]

The China/ or more importantly Thee ASIAN Scenario is interesting as presented in this thread.

I've contemplated this scenario a lot from the view of what is commonly called the "PTB"....

Can you imagine what mayhem would happen if Common people who are just as good as you could not afford to have rice ?

Christian's call it 'sharing the plate around', but has anyone thought that just maybe all this mayhem is one step forward towards less insanity where everyone who incarnates on earth is just that... An Earthling ?

One of those things that to an earthling seem's like eternity, but in factual matter it need's to happen to unite a retarded planet

[Somamech]

Honestly, in the case of ASIA, having people not contribute to any goal and living in slums is Genocide no matter which way you look at it.  SO from a PTB perspective this world is becoming immobilized

More idea's, more contribution.  As long as you have the ability to make a buck.. then not much is to complain about