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[onetruekeeper]

Like anything it can be a double edged sword.  Lots of art and music only exists because of the creativity it can inspire.  It also leads to a lot of people being far less active than they could be.  I think that is why there is so much disagreement about it.

The "turning a blind eye" by the government is a typical "opium for the masses" thing but on the other hand lots of radical thinking and activity is associated with it.  It is almost never black and white.

I think it could be better to NOT start using weed or other drugs for inspiration purposes. I believe in most cases of artists using drugs, it was to quiet the mind, to turn off the torrent of ideas and inspiration so the artist can get some rest and not burn out.

[Amaterasu]

Like anything it can be a double edged sword.  Lots of art and music only exists because of the creativity it can inspire.  It also leads to a lot of people being far less active than they could be.  I think that is why there is so much disagreement about it.

It inspires deep thinking, I have found.  Virtually all My insights of any major measure have come while medicated.  I think that it is propaganda that it leads People into inactivity.  It leads Them away from wanting to pump Their energy into the system in ways that are boring or miserable, perhaps, and encourages creativity - just the opposite of what the propaganda makers want to see.

The "turning a blind eye" by the government is a typical "opium for the masses" thing but on the other hand lots of radical thinking and activity is associated with it.  It is almost never black and white.

But They DON'T "turn a blind eye."  Raids happen frequently. 

My suggestion to anyone is that if you have a busy day then don't smoke much but no doubt plenty of people think it "takes the edge off".  It is the paranoia that bothers me...

Given it's illegality, paranoia is common in novice users, and even experienced users will experience it now and again.  But I am here to tell You, when You detach Yourself from the state, claim no contract there, feel You can fight off any harassment, paranoia vanishes.  I haven't been paranoid on it for decades.

[Amaterasu]

I think it could be better to NOT start using weed or other drugs for inspiration purposes. I believe in most cases of artists using drugs, it was to quiet the mind, to turn off the torrent of ideas and inspiration so the artist can get some rest and not burn out.

Au contraire, it opens new perspectives.  It enhances the joy of creation.  I will not advocate, but leave it to Individual choice.  I just don't want misconceptions and propaganda to stand unchallenged.

[Pimander]

Au contraire, it opens new perspectives.  It enhances the joy of creation.  I will not advocate, but leave it to Individual choice.  I just don't want misconceptions and propaganda to stand unchallenged.

My claims about the effects of Cannabis are not mis-perceptions.  They are the experience of millions of (but not necessarily all) Cannabis users.  They are also not propaganda they are just my opinion.

As for regular raids, in the UK it seems to be policy to raid mainly large producers but not small.  In some European countries it is de-criminalised.  There is life outside the USA don't forget.  In fact only 4.4% of the population live there.  It is time you guys recognise that.

Population of USA / Population of Earth x 100=

313900000 / 7125000000 x 100 = 4.4%

[Amaterasu]

Question:  Are novice users included in those data?  Or do You have a separate category for experienced users?  Because I will tell You for sure, what a novice experiences and what a frequent user experiences are two different animals.  Novices tend far more to the paranoia and inability to gauge things fully.  The Ones with experience generally do not have the issues of the novice user.

"Do not drive until You know how this substance affects You..."

[Norval]

, , , gold for Amaterasu .

[Pimander]

Sorry, I missed that reply.

Firstly I didn't give any figures, I used the term millions figuratively to illustrate that many of the multitude have a different experience of smoking the weed to you.

Because I will tell You for sure, what a novice experiences and what a frequent user experiences are two different animals.  Novices tend far more to the paranoia and inability to gauge things fully.  The Ones with experience generally do not have the issues of the novice user.

And I will tell you for sure that myself and a number of other users or former users all DID NOT get the paranoia when we first smoked it.  The paranoia got worse over time and many have stopped smoking it completely as a result.

The medical evidence suggests that in particular smoking in adolescence leads to problems later in life.  (And no I'm not going to repeat what I posted elsewhere as you hardly ever seem to accept anything a scientist says unless the evidence agrees with your viewpoint even when you are debating with a flaming pharmacologist/molecular biologist ).  Basically you are biased because you smoke and claim to suffer no ill effects.  Well many smokers do.  If you don't believe that then all I can say is I'm not lying just because my degree was partly funded by big pharma.

[Wrabbit2000]

The medical evidence suggests that in particular smoking in adolescence leads to problems later in life.

It will never cease to amaze me, how many people deny that simple fact.

It was all of my second semester in college and a study strategy class that I first saw and began to understand biologic brain function (neurons and dendrites). One of the first things they cover, and knowing not everyone in the room is old enough to look 'back' on this milestone yet, is the age at which the brain stops physical development.

It varies per person, of course, and I imagine I'm telling you nothing you don't already know quite well, but for general reference? I've been taught simple biology and simple human physiology for brain development runs into the early 20's. 20-22 is the age I have written in my course notes from the first run through.

It seems to me, while the brain is still in basic stages of development and finishing it's cycle? Anything that significantly impacts it's function will, by nature, impact it's development as well. Logical, eh?

Of course, I've had tobacco users argue till they were too frustrated to argue any more, that cigarettes not only have NO negative health effects, but actually carry benefits. I sure never said that...but I've found myself opposing such arguments more than once. The world must look at our level of 'common knowledge' and wonder if it should weep or laugh.

[onetruekeeper]

Life is short gentlemen, do whatever pleases you the most....cheers!

[Pimander]

The world must look at our level of 'common knowledge' and wonder if it should weep or laugh.

We should weep but I prefer to laugh. 

Life is short gentlemen, do whatever pleases you the most....cheers!

Of course.

It pleases me to try to stay healthy, but I'll never argue against doing something just because we enjoy it.  There are loads of examples of things that both benefit and harm.

Care to join me for a Scotch anyone?



A Glass of Scotch Helps Creative Problem Solving
The study says any alcohol, but we say Scotch.

[ArMaP]

Life is short gentlemen, do whatever pleases you the most....cheers!

Even if that includes making that life shorter.

[Amaterasu]

Firstly I didn't give any figures, I used the term millions figuratively to illustrate that many of the multitude have a different experience of smoking the weed to you.
And I will tell you for sure that myself and a number of other users or former users all DID NOT get the paranoia when we first smoked it.  The paranoia got worse over time and many have stopped smoking it completely as a result.

And I am sure the "illegality" had nothing to do with the paranoia...     To be sure, when I first used it, I DID have paranoia - specifically because of the "illegality."  I never said that no One that is an experienced user ever has paranoia, just that AS A RULE that is experienced by the novice user much more than in those who have used regularly for a month or more.

The medical evidence suggests that in particular smoking in adolescence leads to problems later in life.  (And no I'm not going to repeat what I posted elsewhere as you hardly ever seem to accept anything a scientist says unless the evidence agrees with your viewpoint even when you are debating with a flaming pharmacologist/molecular biologist ).  Basically you are biased because you smoke and claim to suffer no ill effects.  Well many smokers do.  If you don't believe that then all I can say is I'm not lying just because my degree was partly funded by big pharma.

Thanks for assuming I have no clue.  I have researched this matter for DECADES.  And if You read what I said...  You will discover that I did NOT say that NO ONE has issues.  90%ish tolerate it well, with paranoia being vastly less of a problem in areas where it is legal.  10%ish have various problems.

And I would like to point out the neurogenetic nature of the plant, as well as its efficacy against such conditions as Alzheimer's, Muscular Dystrophy, and more.  Given all the nano-aluminum being sprayed on Us, I am very grateful for cannabis and its benefits.

[The Seeker]

Care to join me for a Scotch anyone?



A Glass of Scotch Helps Creative Problem Solving
The study says any alcohol, but we say Scotch.

Aye, lad, I'll share a touch with ye 

a lil' hair of the dog to ease me aching bones and weary mind...

[Pimander]

And I am sure the "illegality" had nothing to do with the paranoia...   

But it was a category C drug in the UK for ages.  That meant you could not even be arrested for posession.  It is also decriminalised in Portugal and Netherlands but people still get paranoid.

Thanks for assuming I have no clue.  I have researched this matter for DECADES. 

Sorry Amy, I know you have studied it a lot.  I was trying to say I sense your interpretation of what you have read is biased by your own experiences.  I'll admit mine is too but that is why I referred to the research and experience of others.

I am very grateful for cannabis and its benefits.

And rightly so but I wish you would admit that it also causes harm.

I love whisky but I know it is bad for my liver.  I guess some whisky drinkers get violent as do many alcoholics although that is not my experience of my lovely vice.

Giant hug x


@Seeker: Funnily enough mate, I have problems with my ankles from playing soccer in my youth and the aching magically eases after a glass or three.


ETA:  This is so off topic.  Sorry guys.  Does any of the staff think I should have split the thread?

[onetruekeeper]

Along with the whiskey here is some interesting reading about various alien races that are here already:
http://www.docdroid.net/9wcc/alien-race-book-arb.pdf.html