“Going After” the Islamic State. Guess Who is Behind the Caliphate Project?

Started by Pimander, September 26, 2014, 10:50:47 PM

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Amaterasu

I suggest that a great deal of that is used by the agents provocateurs in Their efforts to keep the pot stirred...  And Ones who were taught "It's an honor thing" to go slaughter and be slaughtered by the descendents of some People long ago are easy to whip up.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

petrus4

From Albert Pike:-

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World.

The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion...We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil.

Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."


As a result of recently rediscovering this, I have realised that the expression of negative emotion towards Islam, or engaging in any hostility towards it whatsoever, directly serves the most unspeakable of possible agendas.  Violent Muslims are to be avoided, but Islam itself is not to be hated; and I myself have needed to repent of such.
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

Pimander

Don't forget, Al Qaida is a database originally not a single movement. :)

It is also worth remembering that it is affectively US policy to be at war permanently as they have worked out that it makes the economy stronger.  After all human lives are worth less than money.  Now that IS PSYCHOPATHIC.  If you disagree then please explain how valuing money above lives is not.

Of course I know that most Americans are not psychopaths.  But however you look at it, the nature of the policy is sick and the work of a collectively psychopathic attitude on the part of TPTB.

I just posted a relevant article.

Bomb Everyone by George Monbiot: Humanitarian arguments, if consistently applied, could be used to flatten the entire Middle East




Quote from: Amaterasu on September 30, 2014, 05:31:45 PM
And yes, darlin', I know the states are not the be-all and end-all.  But We do have a lot of influence on the general planetary thinking.

I know you are aware, but American citizens so frequently appear to forget that they are only 4.4% of the population that I can't help wanting to remind you all.  You are the minority and strongest capitalist state.  That is not a good thing as the US government are the strongest defenders of the fuc4ed up banking system under the current movers and shakers.  There are alternatives.

Wrabbit2000

I thought I would add this to the discussion, since the policy being talked about here will likely do more to build the ranks of ISIS than any other single move the United States could make here. (Did we learn absolutely nothing, whatsoever, from Vietnam and HOW the Vietcong kept building numbers like rabbits at an orgy??)

QuoteThe White House has acknowledged for the first time that strict standards President Obama imposed last year to prevent civilian deaths from U.S. drone strikes will not apply to U.S. military operations in Syria and Iraq.

A White House statement to Yahoo News confirming the looser policy came in response to questions about reports that as many as a dozen civilians, including women and young children, were killed when a Tomahawk missile struck the village of Kafr Daryan in Syria's Idlib province on the morning of Sept. 23.
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I'd call this one of the more depressing notes I've shared with anyone online and I found it from someone bringing it to another site I work at. I couldn't resist sharing tho, as killing civilians among an enemy population has got to be the single most powerful recruiting tool an enemy can be handed to build and consolidate their numbers.

Look at it another way.... If you watch your wife and kids killed by a 500lb bomb of "oops...we thought ....", will it matter what you felt or how you saw politics the day before? I seriously doubt it. Speaking for myself, and with nothing left in the world to lose at that hypothetical point? My entire life would become about seeing pain applied to where that 500lb bomb of doom had come from and who ordered the drop to obliterate my family. Mistakes and apologies are for news broadcasts and election speeches.

This policy of 'damned the civilian deaths! Full speed ahead!" will do more to make ISIS what it becomes now, than anything else, I fear.

Sinny

I agree Wrabbit - If anyone killed a member of my family and justice wasn't served - I'd most likely serve it myself.

The old:

One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.

I just wish these moronic men involved in all these nasty, disgusting, gut-wrentching brutal murders (ISIS and soooo many others), would grow some fekking brain cells, and grow some actual fookin balls to see that not only have they corrupted their own souls, but the are detroying their own people, and own motherland, and they them selves WILL end up in destruction.

Imagine if thse Middle Eastern groups actually learned to play clever, the Middle East could topple the Western Power struture.

Hell is empty and the devils are here!
"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society"- JFK

petrus4

Quote from: Sinny on October 01, 2014, 05:07:15 PM
I just wish these moronic men involved in all these nasty, disgusting, gut-wrentching brutal murders (ISIS and soooo many others), would grow some fekking brain cells, and grow some actual fookin balls to see that not only have they corrupted their own souls, but the are detroying their own people, and own motherland, and they them selves WILL end up in destruction.

It is just fear, Sinny.  They are all berserk with fear.  I've been there, at times.  I still am there, at times.  This whole thing with Islam is just one giant bad trip, and everyone needs to calm down and take a step back.  They won't, though; because they are actually enjoying the drama.

That's the problem.  It's all a big, arbitrary game; although I know people will ask how I can possibly call it a game with people dying.  I'm not saying that to make light of the deaths, here; what I mean is that the entire rationale behind the whole thing is completely arbitrary.  More than anything else, that is the real tragedy; that real people are really dying because other people demand war as a sick form of stimulation and entertainment.  We want politics, and we want war, and we want drama, just to keep our minds ticking over and stimulated and chewing on something, and so that various rich people behind weapons and munitions companies can keep smoking cigars, and eating stuffed lobster and creme brulee, while other people in Third World countries are lucky if they can make mud pies.

QuoteHell is empty and the devils are here!

The veil has been thinner for a number of years now.  So yes, negative beings are going to be in closer proximity to us; but it helps to remember that the positive ones are as well.
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

Sinny

"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society"- JFK

petrus4

Quote from: Sinny on October 02, 2014, 11:51:13 AM
Wish they'd bloody show em selves.

The positive polarity is more closely associated with quiet; and by that I don't mean complete silence, but definitely less noise and ostentation.  As a result, negativity is out there in the foreground, and it is the very first thing you see.  The positive stuff can require some effort to notice.
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman