Heaven Found? Scientists Find Evidence Of 'Life After Death' In Major New Study.

[astr0144]

Heaven Found? Scientists Find Evidence Of 'Life After Death' In Major New Study.

Another article claiming Life after death !...

With some seeing bright lights and one even having an out-of-body experience, the findings of a major new scientific study into cardiac arrest patients who were momentarily 'dead' are daunting but potentially ground-breaking.
A team at the University of Southampton has been examining 2,000 people who suffered cardiac arrests; using patients in the UK, the US and down in Australia. It took four years, and now they've announced that nearly 40% of those who survived described some kind of state of awareness during the time they were, technically, dead.
A 57-year-old man from Southampton even said he watched his own resuscitation from the corner of the room; describing in vivid detail the actions of the nurses and the sounds of the machines.
Dr Sam Parnia told The Telegraph: "We know the brain can't function when the heart has stopped beating. But in this case, conscious awareness appears to have continued for up to three minutes into the period when the heart wasn't beating, even though the brain typically shuts down within 20-30 seconds after the heart has stopped."
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"The man described everything that had happened in the room, but importantly, he heard two bleeps from a machine that makes a noise at three minute intervals. So we could time how long the experienced lasted for.
"He seemed very credible and everything that he said had happened to him had actually happened."
As for the other patients, responses varied. 330 of the 2060 survived; of which some said they saw a bright light, some said they had the sensation of drowning, some felt separated from their bodies and others said their senses actually heightened. A third said they felt as if time had either slowed down or sped up.
"Estimates have suggested that millions of people have had vivid experiences in relation to death but the scientific evidence has been ambiguous at best," said Dr Parnia. "Many people have assumed that these were hallucinations or illusions but they do seem to corresponded to actual events.
"And a higher proportion of people may have vivid death experiences, but do not recall them due to the effects of brain injury or sedative drugs on memory circuits. These experiences warrant further investigation."
It's quite overwhelming, isn't it?


https://uk.celebrity.yahoo.com/news/heaven-scientists-evidence-life-death-major-new-study-082131463.html

[Pimander]

Sam Parnia has been studying this for at least 15 years now.  I didn't know she was in New York now.

I can't find a link to the paper so if anyone does please post it so we can take a look.

[sky otter]

 

here ya go P...part of the trail to it
and where you can get it...
I erased a very large list of other contributors
no offense but this sounds a lot like the stuff moody did years ago..imo

Life After Life: The Information Network on Near-Death ...



www.lifeafterlife.com/

Dr. Moody is the best-selling author of eleven books, including Life After Life and Reunions. Over 20 million books sold to date. He coined the phrase ...




Dr Parnia's study involved 2,060 patients from 15 hospitals in the UK, US and Austria, and has been published in the journal Resuscitation

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/life-after-death-largestever-study-provides-evidence-that-out-of-body-and-neardeath-experiences-may-actually-be-real-9780195.html



http://www.medicaldaily.com/life-after-life-near-death-experiences-suggest-consciousness-continues-beyond-death-306443

http://www.resuscitationjournal.com/article/S0300-9572(14)00739-4/abstract

AWARE—AWAreness during REsuscitation—A prospective study?
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Summary of study enrollment and outcomes.

Abstract
Background
Cardiac arrest (CA) survivors experience cognitive deficits including post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). It is unclear whether these are related to cognitive/mental experiences and awareness during CPR. Despite anecdotal reports the broad range of cognitive/mental experiences and awareness associated with CPR has not been systematically studied.

Methods
The incidence and validity of awareness together with the range, characteristics and themes relating to memories/cognitive processes during CA was investigated through a 4 year multi-center observational study using a three stage quantitative and qualitative interview system. The feasibility of objectively testing the accuracy of claims of visual and auditory awareness was examined using specific tests. The outcome measures were (1) awareness/memories during CA and (2) objective verification of claims of awareness using specific tests.

Results
Among 2060 CA events, 140 survivors completed stage 1 interviews, while 101 of 140 patients completed stage 2 interviews. 46% had memories with 7 major cognitive themes: fear; animals/plants; bright light; violence/persecution; deja-vu; family; recalling events post-CA and 9% had NDEs, while 2% described awareness with explicit recall of 'seeing' and 'hearing' actual events related to their resuscitation. One had a verifiable period of conscious awareness during which time cerebral function was not expected.

Conclusions
CA survivors commonly experience a broad range of cognitive themes, with 2% exhibiting full awareness. This supports other recent studies that have indicated consciousness may be present despite clinically undetectable consciousness. This together with fearful experiences may contribute to PTSD and other cognitive deficits post CA.

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Cardiac arrest, Consciousness, Awareness, Near death experiences, Out of body experiences, Post traumatic stress disorder, Implicit memory, Explicit memory
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[The Matrix Traveller]

There were studies done back in the 1970's and before.

I know this from personal experience.   

[Pimander]

Thamks Sky, my search didn't turn up the journal reference for some reason.  Sometimes Google isn't doing what I expect on my PC.  I wonder why that is.

Conclusions
CA survivors commonly experience a broad range of cognitive themes, with 2% exhibiting full awareness. This supports other recent studies that have indicated consciousness may be present despite clinically undetectable consciousness. This together with fearful experiences may contribute to PTSD and other cognitive deficits post CA.

Yes, it is a bit strange how they only mention "recent studies" in their conclusions.  I remember a couple of much older ones too.

[The Seeker]

For what it's worth, I am one of Dr. Moody's case studies; I don't have total recall of my experience, but enough to convince me that this reality here is but a small piece of the total...

and I do believe mine qualifies as a death experience since it was 33 minutes before my heart started beating again...

All I have to say is each of you will experience it for yourself; it is part of the cycle of being here, to be born, experience all things, then the meatsuit expires; the luminous beings that are us only inhabit the meatsuit/container for a specific amount of time...

seeker

[Pimander]

All I have to say is each of you will experience it for yourself;

The experience can be induced using drugs that appear to detach consciousness from the body without stopping your heart (in fact it is a combination of two that appears to work particularly well).  I won't post which drugs openly in case anyone tries to repeat it and kills themselves (obviously there are potential pitfalls).

The movie "Flatliners" is not completely fantasy.



Unfortunately this type of research is not officially sanctioned by Universities so it is difficult to publish and not mainstream.  (ETA: I mean using drugs for this purpose as it is risky)

Having experienced what is described in certain Shamanic cultures as part of the afterlife I can honestly say it is an amazing experience.  Admittedly it is hard to say how long it goes on for after death as near death or drug induced can only last a limited time.  It is amazing though.

[petrus4]

On this topic, I would strongly recommend that interested parties visit the website of Bruce Moen, a man who has been inducing out of body experiences and recording his results for many years now.  In conjunction with several other people there, I was able to have a couple of similar experiences of my own, during roughly 2004-2006.

Bruce has also written a series of relevant books, including reference materials for the purpose of allowing others to learn to project themselves as well.

[sky otter]

well the first two that entered my realm about it were edgar Cayce and bob Monroe.. reading about both started that journey that hasn't ended yet



http://www.monroeinstitute.org/

"The greatest illusion is that mankind has limitations." — Robert Monroe


http://www.edgarcayce.org/edgar-cayce1.html







seems there are studies going on all over the place..here's another one

German Scientists Prove There is Life After Death
http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/german-scientists-prove-there-is-life-after-death/
This controversial process that was repeated on 944 volunteers over that last four years, necessitates a complex mixture of drugs including epinephrine and dimethyltryptamine, destined to allow the body to survive the state of clinical death and the reanimation process without damage. The body of the subject was then put into a temporary comatic state induced by a mixture of other drugs which had to be filtered by ozone from his blood during the reanimation process 18 minutes later.

The extremely long duration of the experience was only recently made possible by the development of a new cardiopulmonary recitation (CPR) machine called the AutoPulse. This type of equipment has already been used over the last few years, to reanimate people who had been dead for somewhere between 40 minutes to an hour.

- See more at: http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/german-scientists-prove-there-is-life-after-death/#sthash.Hxl7uYqP.dpuf

[The Matrix Traveller]

Death is ONLY a human 'Myth'.


There is NO after LIFE as one (LIFE) Can't Die in the 1st place .   


The Body or experience Stops, but LIFE Continues.


LIFE does NOT and Can NOT Die !

LIFE and Death are 'Opposites' and Neither one can be the other.


The Confusion lays in the 'human Primates' definition of WHAT LIFE is !   


What Pimander is referring to, is the 'Experience', and NOT LIFE as LIFE is 'Eternal', and NOT inside the Experience.


The body is the 'Experience'.

And LIFE is WHAT experiences the Body & Environment.


I like Seeker am another those who have experienced what the species believes to be death
according to the medical world.


My body was declared 'brain dead' in August 1973 for more than 30 minutes too.

But during this time (I recall all of it) I was more alive as to say than during the experience of the 'human Primate'.   

It's NOT quite as rare an occurrence as many may believe its just that most don't wish to discuss it.


The problem is most are Superstitious, (fear of the unknown to them I guess) affected by 'indoctrination'
by family influence and pears etc. so those of us who have been through such an experience are often
ostracised by others who haven't or have no recollection.

NOTE; The human Primate is NOT aware of anything, as 'The Primate' is NOT 'AWARENESS' !

The Human Body is just that, a body LIFE experiences !

The Only Component that can be Aware, is 'AWARENESS' !

If you believe I am Wrong then check out the body you experience at present and see IF any
part of your body is 'Aware' of your 'Real Self' i.e. LIFE or 'Awareness', or is even aware of itself
(the body) existing ...

So you will soon discover it is ONLY 'Awareness' which is Aware of anything ....   

So 'Awareness' or LIFE is Independent from the experience of the body and environment

[astr0144]

Hi Matrix,

Upon thinking about certain things that you have educated us about...

I get the feeling that our Body / Earth Program...is almost pre written...and maybe determines everything we do and experience..

And although you say we have the choice for us to determine our fate and decisions and actions like the 1st person gaming computer program  that you suggest that we follow....

I am not so sure...as IF we are limited in certain areas of our programs...such as mental strength, Intelligence or health issues.. we cannot act equally in the way you seem to suggest...

So My thoughts are that the program may determine everything we are and do...including what decisions and thought processes we have and actions that we take..

I also have to question has the program also determined in advance when it will end.. rather than it being Random....

That to me would make more sense.. that are the other possibilities that we may seem to have in terms of choices....that the choices we take are pre programmed...

IF either are so... its still one HUGE mystery to me as to how the programs were created in the 1st place and by what or who...even if we are eternal...

It still seems some greater source has developed it...to even make us eternal in the 1st place ! 

[The Matrix Traveller]

Hi Astr0,

I see you have got a little closer to understanding what I am revealing.   

Keep looking You will get there.

Upon thinking about certain things that you have educated us about...

I get the feeling that our Body / Earth Program...is almost pre written...and maybe
determines everything we do and experience..

Indeed. Your Outer End of your mind edited and compiled it to experience.

Your Outer End was referred to your 'Father' in Ancient Writings.

The Word 'father' means Previous one. You have 2; the 1st and the Last.

The 1st produces & presents the program (Father)

The 2nd experiences the program (Son)

What we experience is the human body (Program) we have chosen and edited.

But we must discover and understand WHY we experience these Programs.

This program is NOT to gain anything on the Earth or Universe.


What gains in the end of the program is 'Your Real Self' LIFE i.e. your 'Awareness'. (Component)

And although you say we have the choice for us to determine our fate and decisions
and actions like the 1st person gaming computer program  that you suggest that we follow....

I am not so sure...as IF we are limited in certain areas of our programs...such as mental strength,
Intelligence or health issues.. we cannot act equally in the way you seem to suggest...

It is Your OWN 'Outer End', which applies these 'limits', as the program is NOT
for what many may think it is really about.   

If you think in Earthly gains then it makes no sense !

But if you think in terms of LIFE it does make Sense when understanding is accomplished.   

So My thoughts are that the program may determine everything we are and do...including
what decisions and thought processes we have and actions that we take..

BINGO !

I also have to question has the program also determined in advance when it will end..
rather than it being Random....

Nothing at all is Random ... 

The day the program (re. your body) ends, is determined BEFORE you enter the Earth experience.

That to me would make more sense.. that are the other possibilities that we may seem to have in terms of choices....that the choices we take are pre programmed..

Indeed you are right.   

The choices we each have are within strict boundaries, often quite narrow !

We are NOT here to achieve anything Earthly, but rather something entirely different.

IF either are so... its still one HUGE mystery to me as to how the programs were created in the 1st place and by what or who...even if we are eternal...

HOW do you dream at night, and WHAT produces your Dreams and HOW ?

They are your 'Dreams' so YOU should know ?

It still seems some greater source has developed it...to even make us eternal in the 1st place !

That is natural for a human to think this way, as I once did too.

It's our 'inferiority Complex' which causes us to look or want for something greater, only because
we don't know our real selves at 1st.

Some find their 'Real Selves' (LIFE) some Don't ...

[The Seeker]

Astro

I remember enough of the other side of the veil to say that we choose the major experiences or goals before coming here; and yes, we do have free choice and free will, yet we are indoctrinated from birth by our parents and siblings, then educated in a specific manner to think in a specific way...

every second of every minute we make choices; one of the items that has purposely been blocked from us is that we are co-creators, and can and do influence everything that we turn to meet...

to me, this reality here is actually being dead, for we are isolated from contact with the ALL whilst in the meat container; on the other side you feel everything, feel connected to everything, and if you can think it, you can experience it or grasp it all, from the beginning to the end all at once;

the linear flow of time we have here is only for here; it does not apply to the other side; my experience once emerging beyond the veil seemed to last for a very long time, at least a full half a day, yet i was only out for less than an hour...


seeker

[sky otter]

seeker / matrix

don't you think that you and others  ( via other  means or similar experiences)
have been given these pieces of info to share
so that those who are paying attention will try to push the envelope?
to test their power at it..
to actually realize that this is just a testing to see how long it takes for  us here (3D)to get it

to figure it out and jump off the board where this game is being played


some call it perfection but it is realization.of what this is
.and then like I said.. when you get to that stage/level
you go poof

hugs to you guys for giving so much...thanks   

[astr0144]

Hi Seeker,

I did notice you mention recently...maybe in this thread about your NDE...and have seen you make ref to it in past posts, but maybe not fully absorbed in detail about your experience....I need to find your description again & reread and absorb it..

I find it quite surprising to be able to be in contact with people who have had such experiences..as I personally did not or have not met anyone who has had such an experience...Only seen maybe somethings discussed on TV...when I was younger and maybe did not take that too seriously at that time..as I think is often the case....we may briefly note certain things, then later at some time will look more indepth at them if and when it takes ones further interest.. With so many distractions in Life in general.. we often only focus generally for short periods of time...then often either forget or just get involved in other things..

What you say below seems very much quite remarkable....we often do things one thing at a time..
BUT we have experienced so many things at differing times....and to think that somehow we could connect all this somehow in another way...maybe what you are trying to describe...where all comes together somehow..and time is not seen in the same
way...

Sky Maybe on to something... as without such people to tell us... how would we ever know !

Maybe another step to trying to figure out what its all about, although I suspect we will forever be thinking that ! 

to me, this reality here is actually being dead, for we are isolated from contact with the ALL whilst in the meat container; on the other side you feel everything, feel connected to everything, and if you can think it, you can experience it or grasp it all, from the beginning to the end all at once;

the linear flow of time we have here is only for here; it does not apply to the other side; my experience once emerging beyond the veil seemed to last for a very long time, at least a full half a day, yet i was only out for less than an hour...