Behind the Mask: Aliens or Cosmic Jokers?

[The Matrix Traveller]

Before one can understand anything, one 1st needs to know their 'Real Selves'.


How many know, WHERE they came from ?


I am NOT referring to the 'human Primate', but instead what is experiencing the 'Primate' !


I am ONLY one of many.... WHO has experienced WHAT you call Death, NOT an NDE
but legally declared Dead, only to find that Death is a 'human Myth' !  LOL.

I wasn't dead for a few minutes, but according to the one who pronounced my death, I was 'Brain Dead'
for more than 30 minutes.   


But to myself I was very, very, much alive, but I had no brain to think with, as it was dead,
but what remained, was my 'Real SELF' which did NOT function as though human !

When I stood up again, those who witnessed this, were very nervous.

At 1st thinking they were seeing a ghost . LOL.

But actually it is a far more common experience, than most assume.


I have no need to prove it, because I am at peace with LIFE.

By trying to prove anything, is a total waste of time.

The unbeliever deceives themselves, because they are unable to face the truth !

This is why it is a waste of time trying to prove anything ...


So to explain more is impossible, as it is beyond the reasoning of the 'human species' ....  LOL.


We each experience the 'human Primate' differently, according to the requirements to achieve the Necessary
results.


The experience of Earth involves huge Complexities and a number of experiences... humans call 'lives'  ...
Some Hundred in fact .... some even more.


It is NOT for me or anyone else to prove, as that changes nothing.

Each one has to find the answers for themselves through the experience.



It's just that most like myself, don't want to talk about it, because of the Superstitious nature of the 'Species'.


To comprehend the truth, you need to experience it, or you simply can't understand nor accept.

The fact remains we all pass through death, no escaping it,    and we learn more during this experience
than at any other time.


Many fear death, but really its only because they are unable to TRUST LIFE !

There is nothing at all to fear..... as you soon learn what the 'human primate' refers to as death,
is ONLY a 'Myth'.


Everywhere on Earth the 'human species' is at WAR against LIFE !

Few ever bother to find out about LIFE, and remain 'materialistic' or forever ,'complaining',
and 'cursing' LIFE.


There is actually a reason for this extremely difficult Program, (Earth) and it is NOT for reasons most believe on earth.


IF there was another way to perform the 'Task' (Earth Program) then the Earth would NOT exist !


Most forget that LIFE suffers ALL ...

Whereas individuals, suffer only a very small proportion of the overall suffering.

Most experiencing Earth are far too 'self centred' and far too 'Superstitious', always complaining ....   


This Program (Earth) performs its 'Task' perfectly, by invoking one to ask the QUESTION !


When you ask the Right Questions you get the Right answers.   

BUT IF you ask the wrong Questions you always get the wrong answers.   


Q&A results in 'Dialogue' ... In this case between the 'Ends' of 'The True Mind'l in other words LIFE.   

[onetruekeeper]

Matrix,
You claim you were medically "dead" for 30 minutes but you did not really die did you?
If you really died for real you would not be here to post your experience.
So in a sense NOBODY knows what death is like since those who do die are not here to tell us about it.
Also I think this video clip might apply to some of us, myself included.

[The Matrix Traveller]

Matrix,
You claim you were medically "dead" for 30 minutes but you did not really die did you?
If you really died for real you would not be here to post your experience.
So in a sense NOBODY knows what death is like since those who do die are not here to tell us about it.
Also I think this video clip might apply to some of us, myself included.

Like I said You are unable to face the Truth, so you pretend I hadn't Died.   LOL.

Like I said you have to experience it for yourself, and one day you SHALL... 


I was once an unbeliever just like yourself, until it happened to me ...   

So now I know better, and am at Piece with LIFE .... 

[onetruekeeper]

Matrix,
Sounds like you have found peace by surrendering to your FATE...LOL
Hey, that's cool. Whatever works for you.
The way of the sorcerer is one of WILL. ( using magick to control one's destiny )
The way of the mystic is one of SURRENDER. ( going with the flow )

[zorgon]

Here is my take on reincarnation.
It does not exist.

Well then, there is no point continuing this discussion. We will just have to agree to disagree...

I wish you well on your path

[UFOOWNER]

BINGO.

Z understands !

What some refer to as a Higher truth, I refer to as being more exact or informed ....   

And that is exactly what one universe is trying to do with the other universe. A conquest of matter energy space and time by intelligence.

LRH has stated that there are two universes and a supreme beingness which are indicated by the points of a triangle. In the book by stanislav grof beyond the brain birth death and transcendence in psychotherapy he speaks of world famous neurosurgeon wilder penfield who states that consciousness is not a product of the anatomy of the brain. He gives the example of a television set where the tv works but that the programming or thoughts are coming from another source or from one of the two universes LRH speaks of.

[onetruekeeper]

Matrix and Zorgon,
Reading your posts gives me the impression that you believe in a supreme being of some sorts ( GOD ).
Am I correct?
But here is something you should know...A being has consciousness, therefore it cannot exist in an infinite state, so it is not supreme. If it is supreme ( all powerful, all knowing ..etc ) then it is not a being...LOL
So what is running the show?
My instincts tell me that you both will disagree. 

[The Matrix Traveller]

Matrix and Zorgon,
Reading your posts gives me the impression that you believe in a supreme being of some sorts ( GOD ).
Am I correct?
But here is something you should know...A being has consciousness, therefore it cannot exist in an infinite state, so it is not supreme. If it is supreme ( all powerful, all knowing ..etc ) then it is not a being...LOL
So what is running the show?
My instincts tell me that you both will disagree. 

Reading your posts gives me the impression that you believe in a supreme being of some sorts ( GOD ).

Am I correct?

No offence intended ....

As I said you are at this stage, unable to understand.


The word GOD, is exactly that, a WORD as is written in your bible, a collection of Greek & Hebrew writings,
compiled by the church of Rome in its day.

The Word is a 'Geometric Algorithm' as given in the text, and NOT what some religious people claim, or believe.

But anyone is free to believe whatever they like ...

It's a part of their own Individual experience.   


Am I religious person ?

NO .... So you got that belief of yours Incorrect !

My 'Post Primary education' included the study of these writings.

But that does NOT say I am Religious ! LOL.   Perhaps Religion, is your perception ?


If you want to believe in your 'Imaginations' about me, and make untrue statements,
or to suggest anything 'untrue' about me, someone you certainly don't know, it is your freedom to do so ....

So what is running the show?
My instincts tell me that you both will disagree. 

Possibly and possibly not .... Does it matter ?


Yourself ('True Self') 'Wrote' your Program before you entered this '1st person like Computer game' (Earth)
So you should know !

If you didn't, then I am having a 'dialog' with only a 'Program', so there is No point to this discussion.

So just leave it as that..... until you experience the same or similar.



Let us just agree to disagree with each other, until then.   

Once again No offence intended.

[The Matrix Traveller]

In the book by stanislav grof beyond the brain birth death and transcendence in psychotherapy he speaks of world famous neurosurgeon wilder penfield who states that consciousness is not a product of the anatomy of the brain. He gives the example of a television set where the tv works but that the programming or thoughts are coming from another source or from one of the two universes LRH speaks of.

Sort of Correct.  (More Correct, than Not.     )

Universes and other experiences, are like '1st person' experiences much like that
of your '1st Person Computer games' on Earth.

They are the experiences.

But what is experiencing these, is the 'Entity' OUTSIDE the game, in a non-Dimensional environment
some of the Ancients referred to as 'The Place of LIFE'.


The 'Entity' is the 'Real Self' ... 'The Living One'.  (Conscious Like 'Awareness', Separate from the Brain)

'Awareness' does NOT need a Program ('Universe' or 'Avatar'/Human/Alien/other Species) to exist ! 

The experience is LIFEs enjoyment but in saying this this Program (Earth) is different than the others
as it involves changes taking place within our Individual 'Processing System' ALL is experienced through.

Some of the Ancients referred to this 'Processing System Construct' as the Soul.   

Some refer to WHAT is taking Place, while experiencing the Earth Program, 'The Metamorphosis of the Soul'.
(Involving the Individual 'Processing System' within another huge 'Processing System'/Network.)

[onetruekeeper]

To Matrix and Zorgon,
My apologies if I offended you in any way. There was no intent on my part to belittle your ideas or beliefs. Since I have obviously said something to get a hostile reaction from both of you I will no longer make any comments about your posts. You will hear from me no further.

[Sinny]

Matrix, may I ask your thoughts on the nature of 'language' and 'text'..

[The Matrix Traveller]

Matrix, may I ask your thoughts on the nature of 'language' and 'text'..

Yes.

[UFOOWNER]

Sort of Correct.  (More Correct, than Not.     )

Universes and other experiences, are like '1st person' experiences much like that
of your '1st Person Computer games' on Earth.

They are the experiences.

But what is experiencing these, is the 'Entity' OUTSIDE the game, in a non-Dimensional environment
some of the Ancients referred to as 'The Place of LIFE'.


The 'Entity' is the 'Real Self' ... 'The Living One'.  (Conscious Like 'Awareness', Separate from the Brain)

'Awareness' does NOT need a Program ('Universe' or 'Avatar'/Human/Alien/other Species) to exist ! 

The experience is LIFEs enjoyment but in saying this this Program (Earth) is different than the others
as it involves changes taking place within our Individual 'Processing System' ALL is experienced through.

Some of the Ancients referred to this 'Processing System Construct' as the Soul.   

Some refer to WHAT is taking Place, while experiencing the Earth Program, 'The Metamorphosis of the Soul'.
(Involving the Individual 'Processing System' within another huge 'Processing System'/Network.)

We are not only aware but aware of being aware. we do not know nearly enough about the thought side or life force. But we do know this much that it passes over MEST and activates it. And the peculiarity of thought in relation to MEST is that it has to have interest in MEST reality with MEST and communication about MEST to hang together. Are you saying that the thought side is eternal whereas the MEST side is only Absolute Infinite we would then have more of one than the other and I in particular like MEST and would like to have something to think on. . Are you saying that it is possible to have more thought than attention units. 

[zorgon]

Am I correct?

Reading your posts gives me the impression that you believe in a supreme being of some sorts ( GOD ).

Then your reading skills are lacking

A Glitch in the Matrix

[The Matrix Traveller]

Matrix, may I ask your thoughts on the nature of 'language' and 'text'..

Waiting for your question.