Who runs the world?

[Wrabbit2000]

While their reach is far, it is not as powerful as it once was. They have no power in China nor the Islamic world that we are in constant 'war' with

If you look at Forbes list of the richest men in the world (very few women on that list BTW) do you see any Rothschild in the list?  I would say they no longer control as much money as people think

         #1   Bill Gates   $80.9 B    $1 K   58   Microsoft   United States
   #2   Carlos Slim Helu & family   $78.7 B    $861.3 M | -1.1%   74   telecom   Mexico
   #3a Vladimir Putin    $70 Billion   -   Age 62 - Energy/Logistics  -  Russia
   #3   Warren Buffett   $68.4 B    $6 K   84   Berkshire Hathaway   United States
   #4   Amancio Ortega   $58.1 B    $0   78   retail   Spain
   #5   Larry Ellison   $48.8 B    $3.7 M   70   Oracle   United States

Don't forget 'ol 3a there. lol.... People tend to sell him short, but after building his holdings in Gazprom and others, therichest list isn't the only spot I've seen him ranked in the top 5 now. I'm not sure what the difference with Forbes is, but they fail to mention a few which appear consistently in the top 25 elsewhere.

[Pimander]

If you look at Forbes list of the richest men in the world (very few women on that list BTW) do you see any Rothschild in the list?  I would say they no longer control as much money as people think

You don't have to actually possess a thing to control it.

So I am going with ArMaP   there is no one group that runs the planet. If there was such an all powerful cabal  we would not be talking freely about them

But thus far nobody has been named so if they exist none of us have mentioned them.

The biggest bogeymen mentioned so far (SInny apart) are the USA government and a being invented by humans called "Satan".


ETA:  Ah, Putin, the first human mentioned.

[VillageIdiot]

You don't have to actually possess a thing to control it.
But thus far nobody has been named so if they exist none of us have mentioned them.

The biggest bogeymen mentioned so far (SInny apart) are the USA government and a being invented by humans called "Satan".


ETA:  Ah, Putin, the first human mentioned.

Yeah, sorry. I got off-topic, in a way. I really do believe though that there is a supernatural aspect to this.

I'm crazy anyway, so whatever. 

[zorgon]

I really do believe though that there is a supernatural aspect to this.

I agree... some call it the FORCE  LOL

The SECRET (Law of Attraction) has been used for thousands of years by various wannabe PTB to sway the force to do their bidding

It works... it really does  HOWEVER  the more people in the world that learn the secret, the more control groups you find. 

In Medieval times the RC had 90% of the control in the Western world.  Today that control is dwindling fast  No more bibles to swear on in court is one proof

Back then a few groups tried to use the Secret to take away that power. Those groups had to work in SECRET because if they were in the open they would literally be tortured and killed. Thus the birth of secret societies... those we defile today as the "Illuminati"

People forget that the term "Illuminati" means 'Enlightened One'



But just like the movie Star Wars... you will always have those using the Dark Side of the force for their own benefit while the ones on the side of the Light work tirelessly to fix things

Neverending Story



IF things were really as bad as the gloom and doom crowd want you to believe, you would NOT be able to say what you want on the internet

The "Illuminati" in the form of the Roscicrucians/Free Masons created this country to be a New World  free from tyrany and the bankers

It was WE THE PEOPLE that allowed Pres Woodrow Wilson to sell us back into slavery in 1914

The "Illuminati"  are NOT your enemy

[Sinny]

I agree with Zorgons notion that even amongst the 'altenative' thinkers, there are large misconceptions about the 'Illuminati'.

However, from a better educated point of view, I'd like to ask for some evidence or reference of the 'good work' completed by the (not Evil) Enlightened ones.

The world by all our 'shared' moral standards appears to be in a negative decline, who and what are the 'tue' enlightened one's doing to counter this?

[The Matrix Traveller]

I agree with Zorgons notion that even amongst the 'altenative' thinkers, there are large misconceptions about the 'Illuminati'.

However, from a better educated point of view, I'd like to ask for some evidence or reference of the 'good work' completed by the (not Evil) Enlightened ones.

The world by all our 'shared' moral standards appears to be in a negative decline, who and what are the 'tue' enlightened one's doing to counter this?

Perhaps the ones you refer to as being enlightened, TRUST LIFE and do Nothing.


After all LIFE is The ALL !


So it is NOT for those you refer to as 'enlightened', to attempt to change anything, as they
are by your words enlightened.

They need not attempt to tell LIFE what is correct or otherwise, but rather it is around the other way
as they learn from 'The ALL' i.e. LIFE or 'SELF AWARENESS'.
(I am NOT referring to the 'species' which is the 'Avatar' in the 'Story'.)

LIFE teaches the enlightened as you refer to them as, so I guess that is WHY they are enlightened ... 

Why on Earth, do so many think or believe the 'human Primate' should be in Control of LIFE,
or that they are somehow superior to LIFE ?   


Only those not enlightened as you put it, expect to Control LIFE as IF they are above or superior to LIFE !   

But such thinking as to Control LIFE is in Vain....

[zorgon]

However, from a better educated point of view, I'd like to ask for some evidence or reference of the 'good work' completed by the (not Evil) Enlightened ones.

The Knights of St John

There are TWO groups

Sovereign Military Order of Malta tied to the RC church



and

The Knights Hospitaller Venerable Order of St John



Both are the Order of St John

However the second one provides FREE Ambulance and Paramedic/First Aid service around the world  They have FREE hospitals (They are not allowed to operate in the US because 'free' is unfair competition)

Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine



or "Shriners"

Shriners International describes itself as a fraternity based on fun, fellowship and the Masonic principles of brotherly love, relief and truth. There are approximately 340,000 members from 195 temples (chapters) in the U.S., Canada, Brazil, Mexico, the Republic of Panama, the Philippines, Puerto Rico, Europe and Australia.

They are best known for their work with Children and Children's hospitals

Those are two of the Good... perhaps if people spent half the time looking for the good humanlty does instead of focusing on the bad  you might find more

Just a thought 

[zorgon]

The Dark Side
The Millennium Group



Fictional history

The Millennium Group first started life as an early Christian sect around the year 100 AD. By the late 10th century, the Group had adopted the ouroboros as its symbol, and the phrase "this is who we are" as a motto. However, around this time schisms within the group began to form as members fought for control of an artifact—the preserved hand of a saint said to be capable of ultimately defeating the devil. Despite these internal rivalries, the group persisted into the 20th century. The Group's modern organization stems from J. Edgar Hoover, the director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, who began the process of turning the Group's attention to criminal investigation in order to monitor individuals and societal trends.

As the 3rd millennium approached, the Group's internal differences began to manifest into two factions—the "Roosters", who believed in a religiously eschatological view of the end of the world, and the "Owls", who believed the world would end with a secular natural disaster. Attempting to instigate the end of the world artificially, the Rooster faction began to develop a lethal virus; in 1998 they released this virus in the Pacific Northwest, killing upwards of seventy people before the outbreak was contained. A year later, a vastly depleted Millennium Group staged one last attempt to trigger the apocalypse, resurrecting deceased members in order to create the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse; when this plot was foiled by the FBI, it was believed to have caused the dissolution of the Group.

The Reality

The inspiration for the Millennium Group was a real-life organization called the Academy Group, which consisted of retired law enforcement agents working as a private investigative firm. Millennium?'?s creator Chris Carter had come to know members of the Academy Group through contacts he had made with the Federal Bureau of Investigation while researching his earlier television series The X-Files

(Remember Hal Puthoff of the Aviary who is OWL and reminiscent of Mulder's Smoking Man)

A search at Wiki under Academy Group will get you "This page has been deleted. The deletion and move log for the page are provided below for reference."


Cover organization...



http://tmgofficeservices.com/

[zorgon]

The Light
Masonic Charity Groups

The Order of DeMolay is an organization for young men aged 12 to 21. Young men do not need to have a Masonic relative to join the organization. DeMolay was founded in Kansas City, Missouri, in 1919, and is now international in scope. Like the other Masonic Youth Orders, DeMolay Chapters (local groups) usually meet in a room at a local Masonic Lodge. Adult leadership is provided by men (usually Masons) known as Chapter Dads or advisors. The Order takes its name from Jacques DeMolay, the last Grand Master of the Templars, who was martyred in the Middle Ages for refusing to compromise his honor. The Order teaches the virtues of reverence, love of parents, comradeship, patriotism, courtesy, cleanness, and fidelity. The Order provides many social events and activities, which help to teach social skills and leadership.

The International Order of Rainbow for Girls is an organization for young women aged 11 to 20. It was founded in McAlester, Oklahoma, in 1922. No relationship to a member of the Masonic Order is required for membership. Local groups or Assemblies are generally sponsored by either a Masonic Lodge or a Chapter of the Order of the Eastern Star. Women known as Mother Advisors give adult supervision and guidance. Each of the colors of the rainbow is associated with a particular virtue or source of inspiration. Like the other Youth Orders, Rainbow is deeply involved with local charity and support of education. It teaches character development, planning, leadership, and social skills through training programs and social events.

The International Order of Job's Daughters takes its name from a story in the Biblical Book of Job. It was organized in Omaha, Nebraska, in 1920. Membership requires the young woman be related to a Mason. The local organization is called a Bethel. The teachings of the Order are Biblically based, and similar virtues are stressed as in the other Masonic Youth Orders. Job's Daughters places special emphasis on community service. Many Bethels work with drug education programs and with the Hearing Impaired Kids Endowment (HIKE) Program. Membership is for young women age 10 to 20.

http://www.msana.com/youth.asp

[Shasta56]

The world is a sentient being who runs herself.  She allows us to believe that we're somehow running the show.

Shasta

[zorgon]

Stonecutters:

Who controls the British crown?
Who keeps the metric system down?
We do, we do!

Who keeps Atlantis off the maps?
Who keeps the Martians under wraps?
We do, we do!

Who holds back the electric car?
Who makes Steve Guttenberg a star?
We do, we do!

Who robs cavefish of their sight?
Who rigs every Oscar night?
We do!
We do!!!

[Pimander]

The world is a sentient being who runs herself.  She allows us to believe that we're somehow running the show.

I agree Gaia is a being more powerful than humans.

I kind of meant human society/civilisation for this thread though.

The Ultra-terrestrials who are the hidden hand guiding the factions previously mentioned by pimander...

As a side note, I believe the Bible did state that at this time, the globe would be in the clutches of Satan...

It IS in the "clutches of Satan", or something akin to it.

Lets say that the degenerate elements of Western secret societies, main religions both answer to what they think are superior entities.  ANd lets say the owners of the military industrial complex are either Fundies or the same, and also the Big Bankers answer to the same?  Then that would make Sinny correct.

OK, these entities might not be Satan.  But the effect is "Satanic", even if Satan is a human creation.  These beings may not be what any of us think (or may not even exist strictly speaking) but effectively they might be the masters of the most powerful organisations and people alive.  It is worth thinking about.

Perhaps if these groups had embraced the real esoteric knowledge the world (I mean civilisation) might heal?

[Pimander]

However, from a better educated point of view, I'd like to ask for some evidence or reference of the 'good work' completed by the (not Evil) Enlightened ones.

If the flame of knowledge has been kept burning in the face of persecution and near extinction than could there be a greater work or sacrifice?

Tens of thousands if not millions have been killed, burned at the steak and tortured for refusing to accept the lies of religious bigots and others.  There are legends and talk of great cataclysms which almost wiped out humans but the flame was always kept burning.

Alternatively, you are just a clever ape and when you die that is it.  It is all BS so make the most of it.  Everything is just dead matter so killing to get what you want is OK.  Exploit nature, hurt animals and war is not bad because we are all just dead matter.

Make up your own minds.

[petrus4]

Lets say that the degenerate elements of Western secret societies, main religions both answer to what they think are superior entities.  ANd lets say the owners of the military industrial complex are either Fundies or the same, and also the Big Bankers answer to the same?  Then that would make Sinny correct.

OK, these entities might not be Satan.  But the effect is "Satanic", even if Satan is a human creation.  These beings may not be what any of us think (or may not even exist strictly speaking) but effectively they might be the masters of the most powerful organisations and people alive.  It is worth thinking about.

Humanity's problem is not the cabal itself.  Hitler wrote himself, that he would not have been able to get anywhere, if he hadn't been able to exploit certain pre-existing psychological vulnerabilities within human beings.

The cabal are salesmen.  Think about it.  Generally speaking, the most evil people who we do know about, are billionaires.  If we are sovereign, (and I believe we are) then ultimately the cabal can not force us to do literally anything.  All they can do is put choices in front of us, which they can also make as appealing as possible to our psychology, and then hope that we will take the bait.  Most of the time we do.

Every time you believe that you have a moral obligation to thank veterans for their service, you're taking the cabal's bait. 

Every time you tell yourself that there is such a thing as a "just war," you're taking the cabal's bait.  They want war, and you're giving it to them.

Every time you direct reverence towards the police, because in your cowardice you believe that you need the police to, "keep you safe," you're taking the cabal's bait.

Every time you believe that vertical hierarchy or chains of command of any kind are a good thing, or tell yourself that for any reason, there is any single person in existence who is somehow superior to you, and who must be obeyed by you because that person is somehow an "authority," over you, (hint: no, they really aren't) you are taking the cabal's bait.

Every time you immerse yourself in doom porn and related poop, just to satisfy your itching need to be stimulated by drama, you are taking the cabal's bait.

Yes, the cabal will try to play their games.  They will try to carry on their shenanigans.  That is what they are there to do.  The entire purpose of Service to Self as a polarity, is to densify Maya; to create completely arbitrary illusions which we can then use for the purpose of growth.  If you really want to know what Service to Self as a polarity is like, then watch Game of Thrones.  One big vertical and totally imaginary hierarchy that everyone wants to get to the top of, without thinking about what it will actually mean if they get the proverbial Big Chair.

I used to get gout, on a regular basis.  There was nothing I knew of to do, that would completely get rid of it.  A small amount of pain was there constantly.  Since getting rid of doom porn (and 4chan) on Thursday, I'm feeling lighter physically and am more pain free right now than I've probably been in three years.  Yes, really.  I'm also not angry, and I haven't smoked marijuana for two days.

The bottom line is, do not worry about what the cabal are doing.  If you asked one of them, they will tell you outright that they can not hope to enact the Georgia Guidestones scenario, without your help; and whenever you open up another article about ISIS or Ebola, you are giving them that help.

Think about that.

[Sinny]

They are in comunication with the 'Secret chiefs'.

From Blavatsy to Crowley, from Nazi's to GHW, from Joseph Smith to Alice Bailey... And perhaps from Masonry to Hip Hop. ...Etc etc.

Petrus;

"How thankful for leaders that men do not think!" - Adolf Hitler.

Well, unfortunatley for them, I think.. And I've helped others think, and generally once you get the ball rolling, people DO like to think.

When they aren't being manipulated via mind control 

Hence I refer all you 'secret keepers' to my signature quote.

This New Age stuff is just as self contradictory as mainstream Christianity.
I'll present it one day.