Bertrand Russell quote(s)

[UFOOWNER]

I don't know if you have ever seen the front cover of Megadeth's album RUST IN PEACE but if you look at it and read this quote you will see that they match. Anyway here is the first quote from Bertrand Russell: "All governments, whatever their political complexion are at present willy-nilly in their grip of natural forces which can only be dealt with by a degree of intelligence of which mankind hitherto has shown little evidence." Bertrand Russell 1872-1970

Note: Willy-nilly means in an unplanned manner and hitherto means up until now.

"What we need is not the will to believe but the wish to find out which is exactly the opposite." Bertrand Russell 1872-1970 And I fully expect that the wish for disclosure will come true.

[zorgon]

There will be no disclosure... there will only be befuddlement

That was confirmed for me when National Geographic aired the fake Mayan 'Alien stones by Nassim Haramein who's handler is Dr Elizabeth Rausher.

Once I saw that I knew it was time to hang up my hat and go back to Medieval Tymes

[zorgon]

BTW  it's a good thing you explained your nick name  I was going to ask you where you parked it 

[UFOOWNER]

Well ZORGON I don't know about that but I do know that a couple of military guys at Denny's were watching me while I had my head down writing some stuff on paper. Something told me to raise my head up slowly and look forward. As I did one of the military guys the younger one had his head down and was raising it slowly to match my movements while looking at me eye to eye. And another instance occurred at my mom and dads house while a friend of the family was over. We were outside and every time he started thinking on me I would move. He did that twice before getting the idea that something non ordinary was occurring. He shuffled around and then proceeded to quit thinking on me. Another instance was up on the mountain where Tyler told me that I had been through stuff like that of what his dad saw in Vietnam and that he wanted to be a part of that which was is inside of me or to be the other terrestrial officer.

I remember a cartoon sketch I once saw where a couple of kids come up to this Area 51 military guy and stating: Remember that UFO you recovered a wicked long time ago? Well, he thinks he left his wallet in it. 

[UFOOWNER]

BTW  it's a good thing you explained your nick name  I was going to ask you where you parked it 

That reminds me of the good ole ATS spirit. best regards

[RUSSO]

There will be no disclosure... there will only be befuddlement

There is indeed a lot of confusion about "disclosure".

But if we look at it close enough, we can assume that "disclosure" already happened.

Its even official in some countries. 

Here we had amazing cases where we got the official documents from government.



its in portuguese tho.

Im planning to make a mega about this one someday.... just need time.

[zorgon]

There is indeed a lot of confusion about "disclosure".

There is no disclosure.  All the governmnet have released heavily redacted files, hand picked that basically are 'safe' files. Nothing in them that says the Aliens are here. If you look at the ones they did release you will see that they have not released the good ones

We know there are more because of the numbering sequence. Lots of missing reports

So yeah they have ACKNOWLEDGED officially that they have some saucer reports... but they already did that way back with Blue Book

But if we look at it close enough, we can assume that "disclosure" already happened.

Of course WE can... but that isn't disclosure  Disclosure is a public announcement that THEY are HERE and have been for some time. Disclosure is a public announcement that we have shot down some and reversed engineered some. Disclosure is a public announcement that we have an ACTIVE space fleet out behind the moon that the Russians and likely the Chinese know about and likely are part of

Here we had amazing cases where we got the official documents from government.

So what is the 'official' position then?

its in portuguese tho.

ArMaP can translate 

Im planning to make a mega about this one someday.... just need time.

Make a report for the website  That way it will not get buried

[ArMaP]

ArMaP can translate 

I can't, there's nothing there. 

[zorgon]

I can't, there's nothing there. 

LOL my point  No disclosure 

[ArMaP]

Now I can see the image, but I can't read most of what's written.

[RUSSO]

Now I can see the image, but I can't read most of what's written.

this one is in better shape



another good one:



i will do a thread about this.... testimony frm the officer (record in video) included,

[RUSSO]

There is no disclosure.  All the governmnet have released heavily redacted files, hand picked that basically are 'safe' files. Nothing in them that says the Aliens are here. If you look at the ones they did release you will see that they have not released the good ones

We know there are more because of the numbering sequence. Lots of missing reports

So yeah they have ACKNOWLEDGED officially that they have some saucer reports... but they already did that way back with Blue Book

Ok,,, but you really need a president to come out and say this to know this is happening? I mean check all the data leaked...

Of course WE can... but that isn't disclosure  Disclosure is a public announcement that THEY are HERE and have been for some time. Disclosure is a public announcement that we have shot down some and reversed engineered some. Disclosure is a public announcement that we have an ACTIVE space fleet out behind the moon that the Russians and likely the Chinese know about and likely are part of

Thats why i used the "" in disclosure. We know there is too many implications that a full disclosure would cause... Mass paranoya included.

So what is the 'official' position then?

if im not mistake... as the documents are official, it works as a partial disclosure. But then, USA government stepped into the operation at that time and the op was canceled right after they had enought data showing it was not "ballons" or "ghosts"

ArMaP can translate 

Im sure he can 

Make a report for the website  That way it will not get buried

you mean for you?

I want to cover all details in this one... and the varginha one too... just need to set things up and have some time.

[zorgon]

Ok,,, but you really need a president to come out and say this to know this is happening? I mean check all the data leaked...

I don't but the masses do.

Thats why i used the "" in disclosure. We know there is too many implications that a full disclosure would cause... Mass paranoya included.

Implications, beliefs and wanna be reality  But what do we REALLY know?  When I started this they were Little Green Men from Mars... WHEN did they suddenly become the Grays?

There are supposedly 57 different species visiting us constantly... You mean its so well kept secret that we never find one of them to cut up? or interview?

Yet there are supposedly thousand of craft whizzing about our skies aimlessly. There are supposed to be HUNDREDS of crashed saucers. So not one little piece of saucer metal gets out to be studied?

People tell me the government is incompetent, and if you watch the daily news you can see the truth of it. Corruption is rampant. Yet not one little piece of real proof ever slips out or is sold?

Thousand upon thousand of released and redacted document over the last few years from a myriad of governments. Even the NSA has a UFO file room online since 2000  yet in all those files... no hard core solid PROOF

So I ask again... beyond a batch of cool stories  what do we really have?

if im not mistake... as the documents are official, it works as a partial disclosure. But then, USA government stepped into the operation at that time and the op was canceled right after they had enought data showing it was not "ballons" or "ghosts"

NSA UFO files  go ahead they don't bite   
https://www.nsa.gov/public_info/declass/ufo/

I want to cover all details in this one... and the varginha one too... just need to set things up and have some time.

Okay you have your power back so you can start it in the workshop at your liesure

[RUSSO]

People tell me the government is incompetent, and if you watch the daily news you can see the truth of it. Corruption is rampant. Yet not one little piece of real proof ever slips out or is sold?

The government is. The folks pulling the strings behind the government are not. It is precisely because the corruption we probably have nothing. Or we do have it, but we dont know. Or we have and it was so discredited and ridiculed that even knowing the "color" is green we believe its blue.

Think about it... You see a crash UFO. You go there and get a piece of the debris. What happens next? You go to the police? You go to the news? You call your close friends? You call FBI? Milliary?

Now if you are the one with all the power and see this story leaking, what you do to tank it? Its really impossible to close all the doors to prevent the information comes out? And when it comes out, is that difficult to ridicule it?

There are so many cases where we see this kind of power acting and clossing the doors. And people will just choose the easy answer because fear or personal beliefs. They will choose to agree with the TV

Thousand upon thousand of released and redacted document over the last few years from a myriad of governments. Even the NSA has a UFO file room online since 2000  yet in all those files... no hard core solid PROOF

So I ask again... beyond a batch of cool stories  what do we really have?

Well Z. We know something is not right. I guess we will have to wait and hope that during our life time a BIG mistake occour. Or if not for a mistake, try understand the big picture of WHY the supressed info was supressed when they decide to use it.

NSA UFO files  go ahead they don't bite   
https://www.nsa.gov/public_info/declass/ufo/

We have a bunch too

http://www.fenomenum.com.br/ufo/governo/brasil/docbra.htm

Okay you have your power back so you can start it in the workshop at your liesure

I will start it next week...Thx Zorgon.

[UFOOWNER]

LOL my point  No disclosure 

I think there is a purpose in mind. They are not using what was given for its stated purpose(and I know the reason why). It is all broken down and scattered(it doesn't exist as one finished thing). When it gets used for it's stated purpose then things will get better(a collection process in its self). And right "Now!" the World is in bad shape which is a reflection of what I'm saying. I'll tell you what its stated purpose is and that is a collection vehicle for exotics a would be risky job but I don't think that they are too worried about it and able to keep up with that which gave it to them. And on the other hand we have humanity collecting as well. There is an Absolute infinite amount of 'MATTER' out there which is so dear to the hearts of humans and only a little bit of it came out in the big bang. It's all a matter of collection and becoming densely filled('MUSCLE'). "Thus, 'MATTER' is not a part of the ultimate material of this world but merely a convenient way of collecting events into bundles." Bertrand Russell 1872-1970