Do Archaeologists Hide Things From Us?

[zorgon]

Do Archaeologists Hide Things From Us?

So does anyone know if the 'expert archaeologists: ever CENSOR stuff they don't WANT us to see? We have all seen the monumental efforts they go to to debunk alternative ideas... but do they actually HIDE stuff from us that would mess up their theories and pet beliefs?

Well we all saw that HUGE warehouse at the Smithsonian in Indians Jones The Lost ArK where stuff disappears forever tongue emoticon I showed you the Baghdad Batteries that were originally buried in a dusty basement..

And there is that story on the Paluxy Trail that has the dino and human footprints that were destroyed while the evidence was being presented...

But would they REALLY hide stuff from us?

Well it appears the answer is YES In this case because you are not mature enough to see it tongue emoticon

Has ANYONE EVER seen these exhibits on any tour of a Museum? In books? ( I am sure they are somewhere tongue emoticon ) Taught in schools? Hmmmm

Have a look These Egyptian wall paintings and carving are quite eye opening tongue emoticon

[zorgon]

Turin Erotic Papyrus

Okay so maybe its not so hidden any more

The Turin Erotic Papyrus (Papyrus 55001, also called the Erotic Papyrus or even Turin Papyrus) is a famous ancient Egyptian papyrus scroll-painting that was created during the Ramesside Period (approximately in 1150 B.C.E.). Discovered in Deir el-Medina in the early 19th century, it has been dubbed "world's first men's mag."  Measuring 8.5 feet (2.6 m) by 10 inches (25 cm), it consists of two parts, one of which contains twelve erotic vignettes depicting various sex positions. It is currently held by the Museo Egizio in Turin, Italy.


Fragments of the papyrus on display at the Turin Museum

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turin_Erotic_Papyrus


Ironic that it is in the same place as the Shroud of Turin?

[Toltec]

Yeah, I guess that many things are hidden and especially when they find something that is out of his mind and made to fit the established.
In all scientific areas do that.

[Just Looking]

Waipoua Forest Stone City - Maori or pre Maori?

The Waipoua Forest Stone City is very controversial due to the problems of its origin and the reaction of the New Zealand Government. The Maori's make no claim to know what/how/why the Waipoua Forest Stone City exists. So it seems unlikely that it is Maori. The other issue is that the Waipoua Forest Stone City should be a national treasure if not a world wide historic place. Yet not only is it being ignored and not protected its destruction is actually being encouraged.

This leads naturally to the conclusion that it is not Maori and that the New Zealand Government do not want its existance to be acknowledged by the public or world at large.

How can such an amazing place be allowed to be destroyed in front of a countries very eyes unless that is what they want?

http://www.everythingiselectric.com/new-zealand/waipoua-forest-stone-city.html

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[starwarp2000]

Short List:

1) The Inventory Stela: regarded as a fake and kept out of sight in British Museum
2) The Great Pyramid: Concreting the floor in the Queen chamber, Concreting the floor in the Subterranean Chamber, smashing of the 2 blocks adjoining the Grand Galley etc.
3) The Sphinx: Concreting the side of the walls around Sphinx to cover erosion marks.
4) Red Sea Crossing Site: Removal of pillars of both side of Red Sea. Destruction of artifacts found on bottom (Chariot Wheels and Weapons)
5) Destruction of the base of Mount Sinai (12 pillars and altar) by bulldozer.

This list only scratches the surface.

[Pimander]

I think the inventory stela is in the Cairo museum.

[zorgon]

Museums typically keep 90% of their inventory out of the public eye... several reasons

1) They like to change displays from time to time and feature items to keep public interested (fair enough)

2) the 'good stuff' is being studied by 'professionals'

3) Many curators become posssessive and its too good to put out where the publc can get it.  I have a real case scenario  Museum in Canada the Royal Ontario Museum recieved a private collection of minerals from a Canadian collector who had passed Save for a few specimens from time to time NO ONE was allowed to view them  And I was part of a group of geologists at the time who petitioned to see them  These were some of the best samples from Canadian mines...

4) They put stuff away when it is controversial (like the Baghdad batteries) Those only appeared after a new curator took the time to see what was stuffed down in the basement collecting dust. The batteries were not even protected  just sitting in open crates collecting dirt. There was a stainless steel cube found in a coal bed.  The cube had the impression of a fern leaf that was fossilized in the coal. When this item was 'found' what they showed was a lump of metal with no leaf imprint

This is a later story of the cube...  it has changed
http://www.virtuescience.com/salzburg-cube.html

That museum warehouse we see in Indiana Jones has cropped up before in reference to some supposed artifact from a UFO crash. I never found that story again either. Hollywood gives us many stories of huge secret warehouses where the PTB hide stuff away that is extraordinary

Once in a while an odd artifact does get out and we call them Ooparts. Today with the ease of travel many more common people are taking field trips and digging up stuff.  Some are the fraudsters making false claims to be sure but others are finding stuff and releasing it  Like the elongated skulls that were once rare are now popping up all over the world, usually associated with those very ancient puzzle block megaliths

[Pimander]

One of the prominent themes introduced in Forbidden Archeology is the phenomena of "knowledge filtration." This is the process by which scientists and others routinely accept evidence that supports their preconceptions and theories while rejecting, either consciously or unconsciously, other evidence that does not uphold their views. This process of suppression of evidence is illustrated by many of the anomalous paleoanthropological findings discussed in the book. This evidence now tends to be extremely obscure, and it also tends to be clouded by a series of negative reports, themselves obscure and dating from the time when the evidence was being actively rejected. Thus, evolutionary prejudices held by powerful groups of scientists act as a "knowledge filter" which has eliminated evidence challenging accepted views and left us with a radically altered understanding of human origins and antiquity.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=forbidden+archeaology&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gfe_rd=cr&ei=LWPsVLXjPMHH8ge_uoJA

Forbidden Archaeology is a fully referenced work containing examples of ooparts from the archaeological literature.  See link above.

This leads naturally to the conclusion that it is not Maori and that the New Zealand Government do not want its existance to be acknowledged by the public or world at large.

There are similar examples being suppressed in the USA and other parts of the Americas.  The reason is that there is evidence of people there before the Indians (Mongolian) crossed the Bering Straight and colonised.  The politics is that land claims would be further complicated so the facts are ignored.  That is the same reason for the New Zealand examples.  It is a chalenge to the orthodoxy that the Maori are the natives.  China have also found early red haired types and suppress the information.

I think Cremo discusses several examples.  I met him once and he is a genuine guy.  It is a long time since I read it but I have a copy of the abridged version of his magnum opus called "forbidden History".  I should have asked him to sign it, sold it and used the cash to buy the full book.

[ArMaP]

That is the same reason for the New Zealand examples.  It is a chalenge to the orthodoxy that the Maori are the natives.

It is? Why?

China have also found early red haired types and suppress the information.

Doesn't red hair happen in all racial types?

[zorgon]

Doesn't red hair happen in all racial types?

Well no not really  It does appear rarely but it has been traced to a genetic mixing

In China there was the case of the tall white redhead mummies. For some time the discovery was deliberately covered up by the Chinese... they even made the area where the mummies were goun into their atomic test zone

The then Chinese government did not want it getting out that tall european type white has been in the area before the Chinese

The bombs however did not stop the discovery from getting out  and today the info is readilly available  in fact I did a page

In Asia, red hair has been found among the ancient Tocharians, who occupied the Tarim Basin in what is now the northwesternmost province of China. Caucasian Tarim mummies have been found with red hair dating to the 2nd millennium BC.[6]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair


The Mummies of Tarim Basin
Xinjiang Province of China



http://thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/02files/The_Mummies_of_Tarim_Basin.html

[Pimander]

It is? Why?

If the "native" is defined as the first race of humans inhabiting a place then if say there were Negro Africans already in South America before the Mongolian (Indians) crossed from Asia then the Indians are not the original natives and are as much immigrants as Caucasians.

If there were already say, Chinese types in New Zealand before the Maori then the it is possible to challenge the idea that they are natives.

Basically in my opinion it doesn't really matter.  Nobody has a right to own the land (apart from your home obviously) or more rights to it than any other racial group.  It is fundamentally one of the main reasons why there is so much inequality.  I was trying to explain a probable/possible reason why many finds are ignored.

[ArMaP]

If there were already say, Chinese types in New Zealand before the Maori then the it is possible to challenge the idea that they are natives.

Thanks, I understand it now.